SAAFL Div 2 2008

[Inflight]

it has been declining a lot over the last five years with the last 2 or 3 being a big decline. There is always a huge turnover of players which doesnt help.

I was wondering EFC if demographically Edwardstown is an older suburb with not too much housing development going on and also an ageing population? Maybe the lack of young families would be a huge contributor to the fact that numbers are dwindling. Are there lots of clubs in your area that are robbing each other of players? I remember going back a while, Edwardstown got heaps of coverage when Amanda Blair's (from SAFM) partner was playing for you guys You were "the" club.

[efc]

How is this for a list of clubs close by. PHOS, SHOCS,Mitchell Park,Plympton,Goodwood,Mitcham,Unley,Brighton Bombers,Morphie Parks,Westminster OS,Marion

Alot of those clubs are within a 5-8km radius.

I think there are far to many clubs close by in a lot of areas in the SAAFL

[silent hour]

and Colonel Light Gardens

[efc]

ther are even more when i think of it. Another that comes to mind after CLG was mentioned was Kenilworth thats 13 clubs without really looking into properly. Far to many.

All clubs need players ,support staff,comittee,volunteers and supporters where do they all come from.

Mergers are desperately needed in this area but it wont happen as the mentality of people at all clubs is against it

[zedman]

ther are even more when i think of it. Another that comes to mind after CLG was mentioned was Kenilworth thats 13 clubs without really looking into properly. Far to many.

All clubs need players ,support staff,comittee,volunteers and supporters where do they all come from.

Mergers are desperately needed in this area but it wont happen as the mentality of people at all clubs is against it

flinders uni, blackwood are others EFC and even mercedes college was looking at an os club...it is rather squashed in our area,..but go have a look at from salisbury to angle vale..

[schimma]

ther are even more when i think of it. Another that comes to mind after CLG was mentioned was Kenilworth thats 13 clubs without really looking into properly. Far to many.

All clubs need players ,support staff,comittee,volunteers and supporters where do they all come from.

Mergers are desperately needed in this area but it wont happen as the mentality of people at all clubs is against it

flinders uni, blackwood are others EFC and even mercedes college was looking at an os club...it is rather squashed in our area,..but go have a look at from salisbury to angle vale..

western suburbs are similar
lockleys,henley, flinders park, Seaton, Smosh, Pt districts, Nth Haven, PortLand, Rosewater, Woodville south, West Croydon

[Sponge Bob]

ther are even more when i think of it. Another that comes to mind after CLG was mentioned was Kenilworth thats 13 clubs without really looking into properly. Far to many.

All clubs need players ,support staff,comittee,volunteers and supporters where do they all come from.

Mergers are desperately needed in this area but it wont happen as the mentality of people at all clubs is against it

flinders uni, blackwood are others EFC and even mercedes college was looking at an os club...it is rather squashed in our area,..but go have a look at from salisbury to angle vale..

western suburbs are similar
lockleys,henley, flinders park, Seaton, Smosh, Pt districts, Nth Haven, PortLand, Rosewater, Woodville south, West Croydon

Boys, it's the same in every direction, too many clubs and a declining interest in footy. The sooner the SAAFL realises that the better. Clubs become weaker, plummet back down the grades, lose players and so on. This has been brewing for years, too many clubs let in along the way and as the generations move on, less likelyhood of any increase in participation

Sad but true!

[silent hour]

what do you think is the solution CC?

plenty of clubs have merged over the years and more have folded.

juniors will help but is not the answer. more often then not when players come out of their junior grades the majority find other interests or start work and don't have the time to train or play.

[Sponge Bob]

what do you think is the solution CC?

plenty of clubs have merged over the years and more have folded.

juniors will help but is not the answer. more often then not when players come out of their junior grades the majority find other interests or start work and don't have the time to train or play.

Mate if I knew that I would become an instant hero, probably also a millionaire.

Sooner rather than later for the good of the sport, clubs will need to look at the bigger picture and start talking to the clubs around them with a view to amalgamation. Not many people like the idea but it's happened before with success providing egos and past history don't get in the way. Rationilization of clubs would make the whole comp stronger but noone's got the balls to make the first move. Some sporting grounds would make prime real estate, so councils would love to be able to pinch some from clubs and sell them off to recoup some $$$$'s
Look at every major sport in Aust, how many leagues have byes, yet in SA, the SANFL and SACA , the top leagues we have tolerate a bye in their programs, absolute crap. no wonder the standards are slipping. SACA put up around $400K for 2 clubs to join up, it almost happened but ego's held it back.

Don't know the answer but i do know the problem!

[schimma]

Ok lads lets get to this weeks games.


Towns vs Shocs A grade

smosh vs Phos B grade


both at st mary's

should be 2 very close games. should get decent crowds to both games.

[bandar]

Just for extra fun at 10.15 PHOS vs Ovingham in the C2 prelim.

[Inflight]

ther are even more when i think of it. Another that comes to mind after CLG was mentioned was Kenilworth thats 13 clubs without really looking into properly. Far to many.

All clubs need players ,support staff,comittee,volunteers and supporters where do they all come from.

Mergers are desperately needed in this area but it wont happen as the mentality of people at all clubs is against it

Maybe the new direction the SANFL is taking with the 17's and 19's folding may inject players back to grass roots-Lets hope

[White Unicorn]

Interesting article in the Guardian Messenger (page 4) regarding the West End issue and Home Finals. PHOS having a go at the SAAFL for not allowing it to have a home final and stating Panther Park was in a "pathetic state".
Also a headline saying "Controversial Goal Derails Phantoms..." What the? Dont know if the bloke was quoted correctly but "apparantly" PHOS thought extra time only consists of 1 x 5 min half with no time on. I wouldnt think they would have been that ignorant of the rules, as the players did swap ends after the first period, so not too sure what the PHOS secretary (who was quoted) is on about.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Interesting article in the Guardian Messenger (page 4) regarding the West End issue and Home Finals. PHOS having a go at the SAAFL for not allowing it to have a home final and stating Panther Park was in a "pathetic state".
Also a headline saying "Controversial Goal Derails Phantoms..." What the? Dont know if the bloke was quoted correctly but "apparantly" PHOS thought extra time only consists of 1 x 5 min half with no time on. I wouldnt think they would have been that ignorant of the rules, as the players did swap ends after the first period, so not too sure what the PHOS secretary (who was quoted) is on about.

Ahwell, Guess they should have beaten Modbury then. I reckon its more an ego thing that a big div 2 club should not have their ego's dented by playing on a div 5 oval. I saw phos 2 weeks ago and it was a swimming pool and covered in mud. So I dont know where they get the pathetic state from. Any way each to their own.

[bandar]

Haven't seen it but the clubs fully aware its 2 x 5 then another 2 x 5 if still drawn etc the only question ever asked is if there is time on interestingly got 2 different answers from the league. THe one I never knew was the toss a coin pick an end and first score wins after that. Funnily enough the messenger tried to get us to complain 3 years ago about no home finals made our own bed we lie in it.

Finally there is nothing wrong with the oval just would have preferred the stands at Thebby rather than the verandah at St Marys but I would expect most clubs would like that.

anythings better than our ground in the wet except maybe Mitcham.

[Pag]

ther are even more when i think of it. Another that comes to mind after CLG was mentioned was Kenilworth thats 13 clubs without really looking into properly. Far to many.

All clubs need players ,support staff,comittee,volunteers and supporters where do they all come from.

Mergers are desperately needed in this area but it wont happen as the mentality of people at all clubs is against it

flinders uni, blackwood are others EFC and even mercedes college was looking at an os club...it is rather squashed in our area,..but go have a look at from salisbury to angle vale..

western suburbs are similar
lockleys,henley, flinders park, Seaton, Smosh, Pt districts, Nth Haven, PortLand, Rosewater, Woodville south, West Croydon

Clubs from Salisbury and further north:

Salisbury, Salisbury North, Salisbury West, North Pines, Paralowie, Brahma Lodge, Eastern Park, Elizabeth, Smithfield, Central United, Angle Vale, Trinity OS.

All seem to be going OK except North Pines who only have one side. Some clubs tend to dominate the juniors, while some (Paralowie, North Pines, Elizabeth, Brahma Lodge) struggle or don't have any, but I think it's as much to do with culture rather than location of other clubs.

[thewowfactor]

PHOS would of been the home side and the time keepers?
Have to be 5 minutes with time on in the A grade sd is the normal game surely?
sounds sour

[zedman]

Interesting article in the Guardian Messenger (page 4) regarding the West End issue and Home Finals. PHOS having a go at the SAAFL for not allowing it to have a home final and stating Panther Park was in a "pathetic state".
Also a headline saying "Controversial Goal Derails Phantoms..." What the? Dont know if the bloke was quoted correctly but "apparantly" PHOS thought extra time only consists of 1 x 5 min half with no time on. I wouldnt think they would have been that ignorant of the rules, as the players did swap ends after the first period, so not too sure what the PHOS secretary (who was quoted) is on about.

just read it as well...what a bunch of sour sore losers...what idiots think extra time is 1 x 5 min quarter...absolutely disgraceful comments by "David Rosman" club secretary.."panther park in a pathetic state"..maybe he should go and use the outside toilets at phos, and see what bubonic plague looks like in the flesh...the middle of phos is a pigsty, look in your own backyard first, and sell the right beer , then you wont have to cry so much..they should be happy they got a good ground to play on..go suck a dummy..loser

[schimma]

Interesting article in the Guardian Messenger (page 4) regarding the West End issue and Home Finals. PHOS having a go at the SAAFL for not allowing it to have a home final and stating Panther Park was in a "pathetic state".
Also a headline saying "Controversial Goal Derails Phantoms..." What the? Dont know if the bloke was quoted correctly but "apparantly" PHOS thought extra time only consists of 1 x 5 min half with no time on. I wouldnt think they would have been that ignorant of the rules, as the players did swap ends after the first period, so not too sure what the PHOS secretary (who was quoted) is on about.

just read it as well...what a bunch of sour sore losers...what idiots think extra time is 1 x 5 min quarter...absolutely disgraceful comments by "David Rosman" club secretary.."panther park in a pathetic state"..maybe he should go and use the outside toilets at phos, and see what bubonic plague looks like in the flesh...the middle of phos is a pigsty, look in your own backyard first, and sell the right beer , then you wont have to cry so much..they should be happy they got a good ground to play on..go suck a dummy..loser

we played at panther park the week before and yes it was a touch heavy but was way better then most grounds going around. Only thing i agree with is that the highest grade final if not a home final should be played at Theby.

[White Unicorn]

The Edwardstown player on report pleaded guilty and got a reprimand. Was there anything in it...?

Any tips for the Prelim?