Para District Cricket Association 2008/2009

[catchit]

how is robo going? will he play this game?

[norm11]

how is robo going? will he play this game?

Not playing this game but hopefully next week

[Dogmatic]

Dont know Kershaw, but Watherston played PDCA colts with me. Salis West were the first team to get Gabba and had Lee Lounder and Watherstone, backed up by Drake and Conole.....s***t no wonder I was a crap pants

You're not Danny are you ?

I don't think so.
Danny knows Dave Kershaw and would be older the Spoon and he doesn't go for Norwood.
Unless he is throwing a few curve balls.
I don't know about those guys all playing in the same team as Kym Hebberman and Goldfinger were also in that era.

[Bag & Sledge]

I believe SACA had meetings last season in regards to participation numbers being down in junior levels.
As they said it starts at the top and works its way down. One thing SACA believed they needed to do was to get behind the Twenty20 concept to get people involved back in cricket once again to get numbers back up to where they were, then they can re-introduce the One Day and Test formats.
But SACA were very worried about participation numbers being down over the last couple of years.

20/20 is def the key kids would love to play it.. and maybe the people who play footy and are good cricketers who dont play would start to show a interest

Dont want to be teaching our kids to start slapping the ball from the start

Its not about teaching kids about slapping the ball from the start, more so the priority of getting participation back in the sport. Have a look at crowd attendances at Adelaide Oval... Twenty20-large crowd, Ford Ranger-low crowd, Sheffield Shield-lucky to get 100 people to the ground.

[Rolls Royce]

Dont know Kershaw, but Watherston played PDCA colts with me. Salis West were the first team to get Gabba and had Lee Lounder and Watherstone, backed up by Drake and Conole.....s***t no wonder I was a crap pants

You're not Danny are you ?

I don't think so.
Danny knows Dave Kershaw and would be older the Spoon and he doesn't go for Norwood.
Unless he is throwing a few curve balls.
I don't know about those guys all playing in the same team as Kym Hebberman and Goldfinger were also in that era.

I thought Danny would know Kersh....but the Lodge/Westies connection had me.

Obviously the same vintage though..

[The Orange Maggot]

Yeh I was just a young bloke thrown into A1 at 16 and stayed there for a little while. Never got to great heights but learnt heaps about the game and respect to the opposition. The teams back then would eat alive any of todays teams.

Dont know Kershaw, but Watherston played PDCA colts with me. Salis West were the first team to get Gabba and had Lee Lounder and Watherstone, backed up by Drake and Conole.....s***t no wonder I was a crap pants

You're not Danny are you ?

I don't think so.
Danny knows Dave Kershaw and would be older the Spoon and he doesn't go for Norwood.
Unless he is throwing a few curve balls.
I don't know about those guys all playing in the same team as Kym Hebberman and Goldfinger were also in that era.

[Grahaml]

Norm, very first thing I heard from the A grade was you and Sewell reported, then someone from the game said it was only a warning. Apparently it was a very interesting day in terms of the umpiring!

I think 20/20 has to have some presence now. And the way the bottom 2 in grade 1 seem to get demolished year in year out weakens the standard in our flagship grade so I agree with the idea of a 6 team comp with 20/20 as part of it. In the lower grades we have a lot of kids and older guys who would in the former's case enjoy 20/20 and the latter provide some rest. I think the result would be extending some guys PDCA careers a year or two longer, and perhaps getting some more kids involved.

I can however see the problem with 20/20 in the top grades negating the better players. Given finals are 2 day games and we're already talking 20 days cricket with a 5/5/5 concept would it be better to go for 5/10 or just straight up 10 2 day games and then finals for grade 1 (and 2?). It might make things awkward with lower grades being a different format but I think with a bit or organisation and perhaps an expansion of the super sub rule to cater it could work.

[rainbow warrior]

bag & sledge how would two wells sandy and west stack up against a turf team? and dont be shy..

One thing is for sure, the batsman value their wicket in turf a lot more which means their strike rate is lower. Para Districts wickets are thrown away by batsman.


Hard to compare, but think a super team competition could be on the cards in years to come-
Para Districts top two against Adelaide Turf top two and Surburban also could make a great champions league concept.

i reckon the 2 turf teams would play off in the final.. i heard you made a ton on th weekend was it up there with one of your best

Might work but I doubt that us turf blokes most of us would want ot play on hard wickets again if we dont have to.

[Lightning McQueen]

The 6 team comp got squashed because it was poorly explained at the AGM, ALL of the top 2 division clubs should have been invited to the initial discussions, opposed to the small group that thought they were on a winner. It became a us against them situation rather than coming to an amicable decision.

I think that it has strong merit and should be discussed at the next PDCA meeting, half of the problem was working out gradings for div.1, they couldn't really drop 4 teams down to div. 2 to allow Virginia & ATCO to be promoted and there seemed to be no fair solution. However, if it set in concrete early this year, they could have the top 5 stay up, the div. 2 premiers get promoted and keep it as 1 up, 1 down for future years.

One Tree Hill were strongly opposed to it as they were going to be relegated and really wanted to stay up, I could see thier point, if they knew earlier in the year the requirements to retain their spot in div. 1, they'd have no leg to stand on.

It's been a bit of a dog's breakfast with the grading's etc. so far this year, there's not a lot that can be done now, we should all just make sure that we are better prepared as an association next season and be more proactive as clubs in the running and laws of the PDCA.

[Browny25]

I believe SACA had meetings last season in regards to participation numbers being down in junior levels.
As they said it starts at the top and works its way down. One thing SACA believed they needed to do was to get behind the Twenty20 concept to get people involved back in cricket once again to get numbers back up to where they were, then they can re-introduce the One Day and Test formats.
But SACA were very worried about participation numbers being down over the last couple of years.

20/20 is def the key kids would love to play it.. and maybe the people who play footy and are good cricketers who dont play would start to show a interest

Dont want to be teaching our kids to start slapping the ball from the start

Its not about teaching kids about slapping the ball from the start, more so the priority of getting participation back in the sport. Have a look at crowd attendances at Adelaide Oval... Twenty20-large crowd, Ford Ranger-low crowd, Sheffield Shield-lucky to get 100 people to the ground.

I couldnt agree more... the kids love T20! Hit them with that at a young age.. How many overs do they play at the moment?

[Lightning McQueen]

Under 11's play for 1 hour & 25 mins or 25 overs each, 13's, 15's & 16's play 44 overs each.

[Lightning McQueen]

My predictions for this week.

Grade 1
Two Wells' 279 will be enough to get them home against Virginia.
Sandy will scrape in narrowly against Westies.
ATCO will account for Rosies by about 120 runs.
Brahma Lodge should reach OTH's total of 232.

Grade 2
Salisbury North's 222 should be enough against Angle Vale on the big Salisbury North oval.
Smithfield who are already 37 runs up after the 1st Inns will narrowly miss out on an outright against St. Pauls.
Craigmore's 226 will be enough against Playford.
The Units who require 130 runs with 7 wickets in hand will just get over the line against Eastern Park.

Any other thought's?

[Pumba]

who are some of the stronger turf teams around this area that would challenge the top PDCA teams?

[Lightning McQueen]

who are some of the stronger turf teams around this area that would challenge the top PDCA teams?

I think you got that the wrong way around

[Pumba]

who are some of the stronger turf teams around this area that would challenge the top PDCA teams?

I think you got that the wrong way around

i dont know many of the turf teams around that area, i guess: pooraka, golden grove and para hills? how would there A grades compare to this comp?

[ray borner]

who are some of the stronger turf teams around this area that would challenge the top PDCA teams?

I think you got that the wrong way around

i dont know many of the turf teams around that area, i guess: pooraka, golden grove and para hills? how would there A grades compare to this comp?

Turf clubs in the area are pooraka and gepps cross in premier grade

ingle farm, para hills and perhaps kilburn in A2

golden grove B2

LM is right it would probably be which PDCA sides could compete against the turf sides.Lots of good players coming from PDCA to turf the last couple of years and doing very well. Ozolins being one that performed well and fracowski hit 148 in A2 on weekend for kilburn. PDCA sides maybe dont quite have the same depth as some of the turf clubs IMO

[catchit]

I believe SACA had meetings last season in regards to participation numbers being down in junior levels.
As they said it starts at the top and works its way down. One thing SACA believed they needed to do was to get behind the Twenty20 concept to get people involved back in cricket once again to get numbers back up to where they were, then they can re-introduce the One Day and Test formats.
But SACA were very worried about participation numbers being down over the last couple of years.

20/20 is def the key kids would love to play it.. and maybe the people who play footy and are good cricketers who dont play would start to show a interest

Dont want to be teaching our kids to start slapping the ball from the start

Its not about teaching kids about slapping the ball from the start, more so the priority of getting participation back in the sport. Have a look at crowd attendances at Adelaide Oval... Twenty20-large crowd, Ford Ranger-low crowd, Sheffield Shield-lucky to get 100 people to the ground.

sandy creek juniors can bat oppisite hand now,they have a coach for that too.. its not about slapping all the time norm.. you can teach a kid that when the bad ball is there hit it hard and when the good ball is there look to push it in the gap.. and if he is doing that still at 18 he will go alright..

[catchit]

Under 11's play for 1 hour & 25 mins or 25 overs each, 13's, 15's & 16's play 44 overs each.

44 overs is to much for 13 & 15 year olds.. to many every day kids would get bored after 30 tops.. only the die hards love the longer form of the game and those are the ones who should be be introduced to district cricket at a early age..

[The Orange Maggot]

The 6 team comp got squashed because it was poorly explained at the AGM, ALL of the top 2 division clubs should have been invited to the initial discussions, opposed to the small group that thought they were on a winner. It became a us against them situation rather than coming to an amicable decision.

I think that it has strong merit and should be discussed at the next PDCA meeting, half of the problem was working out gradings for div.1, they couldn't really drop 4 teams down to div. 2 to allow Virginia & ATCO to be promoted and there seemed to be no fair solution. However, if it set in concrete early this year, they could have the top 5 stay up, the div. 2 premiers get promoted and keep it as 1 up, 1 down for future years.

One Tree Hill were strongly opposed to it as they were going to be relegated and really wanted to stay up, I could see thier point, if they knew earlier in the year the requirements to retain their spot in div. 1, they'd have no leg to stand on.

It's been a bit of a dog's breakfast with the grading's etc. so far this year, there's not a lot that can be done now, we should all just make sure that we are better prepared as an association next season and be more proactive as clubs in the running and laws of the PDCA.

Your on the money LM The meeting in early April was set up by the PDCA and 4 clubs. The BL delegate put it to the floor at the last PDCA meeting that if any club wanted to join in and have discussions regarding changing formats please contact him or Frank. 4 clubs did Tw SW C and Vir with the latter not coming. I agree, not much information was given out before the AGM which dissapointed the 4 clubs and the PDCA. The OTH delegate acted very poorly and considering the way they performed in the last game of 2008, they should be in grade 6.I believe the 4 clubs must again act but need more to come on board. The writing is on the wall after 3 weeks. Forfeits, massive scores, sides struggling to field teams, the kids programme changed in every grade. mmmmmm dark days ahead change we must ,use the force basil

[lovecricket]

always love a sly dig at sandy hey catchit? Jealousy is a curse. When you have so many junior sides as they do you need plenty of coaches . Its called working as a team and looking forward and having a future at the club (as Two Wells has not till this year) I give them 2 more years tops