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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby maidenmagpie » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:33 am

mighty hounds wrote:
Ace of Spades wrote:Here it comes Swamp....

I've heard the update on the Chappy saga is that the brains trust behind the clearance negotiations at magpie land have had their meeting with the young lad and flat out told him he'd better be prepared to sit the year out of footy if he wants to play for United as they weren’t going to clear him. How do these fools that run the show over that way come to the conclusion that they should make a 20 something year old lad sit a couple years out of a game he loves, which for 9 months of the year is the heart and soul of most local communities. It might surprise some people to know, but there are actually a lot of people out there that don’t get paid to play footy, and do it simply for the love of the game, the camaraderie and the ENJOYMENT that comes from playing, and if they are spending their time and money 3 nights a week at a particular club which no longer provides that enjoyment they should be allowed to go! not made to sit out of footy like Matt East was made to do a couple years ago.

Mallala have 35-40+ out on the track two nights a week, they don’t "require" Chappy. The bridges are burnt now, obviously Chappy won’t want to be running around in Magpie colours after such a meeting, and perhaps the pies may not even want him back, so to make another player sit out of footy just because you can is plain poor form.

I hope for the sake of football in general that when the next clearance comes through that its signed. It’s hard enough to fill country footy sides as it is.


thats a joke. poor form mallala


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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:11 am

mighty hounds wrote:I heard that mallalas captain was offered huge money from a YP club?
Swmap to confim?


It seems your the only one who is aware of the offer :roll: The fact that you dream about things such as these mh is slightly creepy :? :? I will investigate though, thanks for the info ;)
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:33 am

Ace of Spades wrote:Here it comes Swamp....

I've heard the update on the Chappy saga is that the brains trust behind the clearance negotiations at magpie land have had their meeting with the young lad and flat out told him he'd better be prepared to sit the year out of footy if he wants to play for United as they weren’t going to clear him. How do these fools that run the show over that way come to the conclusion that they should make a 20 something year old lad sit a couple years out of a game he loves, which for 9 months of the year is the heart and soul of most local communities. It might surprise some people to know, but there are actually a lot of people out there that don’t get paid to play footy, and do it simply for the love of the game, the camaraderie and the ENJOYMENT that comes from playing, and if they are spending their time and money 3 nights a week at a particular club which no longer provides that enjoyment they should be allowed to go! not made to sit out of footy like Matt East was made to do a couple years ago.

Mallala have 35-40+ out on the track two nights a week, they don’t "require" Chappy. The bridges are burnt now, obviously Chappy won’t want to be running around in Magpie colours after such a meeting, and perhaps the pies may not even want him back, so to make another player sit out of footy just because you can is plain poor form.

I hope for the sake of football in general that when the next clearance comes through that its signed. It’s hard enough to fill country footy sides as it is.


Covered a bit of ground there Ace, good to see that passion is still in there somewhere :roll:
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Ace of Spades » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:36 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:Covered a bit of ground there Ace, good to see that passion is still in there somewhere :roll:


I expected a little more from you :(
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:40 am

Swamp Donkey wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:I heard that mallalas captain was offered huge money from a YP club?
Swmap to confim?


It seems your the only one who is aware of the offer :roll: The fact that you dream about things such as these mh is slightly creepy :? :? I will investigate though, thanks for the info ;)


i wouldnt say i dream about such things. catch ya round 1
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Drop Bear » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:42 am

Ace of Spades wrote:It might surprise some people to know, but there are actually a lot of people out there that don’t get paid to play footy, and do it simply for the love of the game, the camaraderie and the ENJOYMENT that comes from playing


=D> =D> Hit the nail on the head there mate. It's not the AFL.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Frognastie » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:35 am

Ace of Spades wrote:Here it comes Swamp....

I've heard the update on the Chappy saga is that the brains trust behind the clearance negotiations at magpie land have had their meeting with the young lad and flat out told him he'd better be prepared to sit the year out of footy if he wants to play for United as they weren’t going to clear him. How do these fools that run the show over that way come to the conclusion that they should make a 20 something year old lad sit a couple years out of a game he loves, which for 9 months of the year is the heart and soul of most local communities. It might surprise some people to know, but there are actually a lot of people out there that don’t get paid to play footy, and do it simply for the love of the game, the camaraderie and the ENJOYMENT that comes from playing, and if they are spending their time and money 3 nights a week at a particular club which no longer provides that enjoyment they should be allowed to go! not made to sit out of footy like Matt East was made to do a couple years ago.

Mallala have 35-40+ out on the track two nights a week, they don’t "require" Chappy. The bridges are burnt now, obviously Chappy won’t want to be running around in Magpie colours after such a meeting, and perhaps the pies may not even want him back, so to make another player sit out of footy just because you can is plain poor form.

I hope for the sake of football in general that when the next clearance comes through that its signed. It’s hard enough to fill country footy sides as it is.


It probadly really sums up the Malalla Football Club really. Its not the first time they have showed such arrogance in this regards. The Matt East saga was a a joke, when I think they actually cleared his brother Jarrod?
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby uncle_fester » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:53 pm

Ace of Spades wrote:I've heard the update on the Chappy saga is that the brains trust behind the clearance negotiations at magpie land have had their meeting with the young lad and flat out told him he'd better be prepared to sit the year out of footy...


very sad if this is true. bout time some ppl there got off their high horses & stopped the need to feel so important!
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:06 pm

Frognastie wrote:It probadly really sums up the Malalla Football Club



Could somebody, with half a clue, explain why the clearance rule is in place in the Adelaide Plains (you might want to use spell and grammar check this time). A rule set out by the SANFL for good reason. Probably be best described by somebody who doesnt suffer from tall-poppy-syndrome.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Dr. Pink » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:18 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:
Frognastie wrote:It probadly really sums up the Malalla Football Club



Could somebody, with half a clue, explain why the clearance rule is in place in the Adelaide Plains (you might want to use spell and grammar check this time). A rule set out by the SANFL for good reason. Probably be best described by somebody who doesnt suffer from tall-poppy-syndrome.


:?

Not sure what you are trying to say. I personally don't have much of a clue but I would guess that the clearance rule was originally put in place as a check to see if players are financial. Back in the old days, people used to jump from club to club without paying their subs. Clearances are a way of controlling this.

Clearly Chappy isn't contracted and has no financial issues. Like Ace of Spades has said if you have 40 on the track you don't require him to fill a side. If you want my not so useful bit of advice, it would be to clear the lad and move on. Mallala already has a terrible record of clearing players of late, and no good can be done by refusing him. You never know in a few years he might want to return but if the club burns that bridge for him then it is Mallala who WILL be the bigggest losers out of this.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:45 pm

Dr. Pink wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
Frognastie wrote:It probadly really sums up the Malalla Football Club



Could somebody explain why the clearance rule is in place in the Adelaide Plains


:?

Not sure what you are trying to say.



Pretty simple, I was wondering if anyone actually understands why the clearance rule is in place. Anyone can guess but does anybody know why there are restrictions on players changing clubs at will? This is a genuine question, no hidden agendas and I'm not trying to be a smart arse, I am just curious as to why there is a protocol to restrict players chopping and changing.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Dr. Pink » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:56 pm

Dr. Pink wrote:Not sure what you are trying to say. I personally don't have much of a clue but I would guess that the clearance rule was originally put in place as a check to see if players are financial. Back in the old days, people used to jump from club to club without paying their subs. Clearances are a way of controlling this.


See above. It would be to protect the club from players who don't pay their subs. This would be a way of making sure that you eventually get them. Unless the player never plays again.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:02 pm

Dr. Pink wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
Frognastie wrote:It probadly really sums up the Malalla Football Club



Could somebody, with half a clue, explain why the clearance rule is in place in the Adelaide Plains (you might want to use spell and grammar check this time). A rule set out by the SANFL for good reason. Probably be best described by somebody who doesnt suffer from tall-poppy-syndrome.


:?

Not sure what you are trying to say. I personally don't have much of a clue but I would guess that the clearance rule was originally put in place as a check to see if players are financial. Back in the old days, people used to jump from club to club without paying their subs. Clearances are a way of controlling this.

Clearly Chappy isn't contracted and has no financial issues. Like Ace of Spades has said if you have 40 on the track you don't require him to fill a side. If you want my not so useful bit of advice, it would be to clear the lad and move on. Mallala already has a terrible record of clearing players of late, and no good can be done by refusing him. You never know in a few years he might want to return but if the club burns that bridge for him then it is Mallala who WILL be the bigggest losers out of this.


i agree with pink. mallala have now prob lost all chance of chappy returning back to mallala in the future now that it looks like its going to get ugly. if worse comes of it im sure he will play somewhere else for 2 years
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Ace of Spades » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:08 pm

9. Clearance – Cannot Be Refused
9.1 Financial Indebtedness and Contractual Obligation
A player of an Affiliated League Club to who has no financial indebtedness (applies to
Subscriptions for the players previous season played only) or contractual obligation to
that Club must not and can not be refused a Clearance on any grounds.
The standard SACFL Leagues Playing Contract, in a form approved by the Board
from time to time; will be the only contract recognised in the instance of any appeal
where ‘Contractual Obligation’ is given as the reason for any refusal of a Clearance.

9.4 Currently Registered Player
A player who is yet to play a game for a club in the current season cannot be refused
a clearance, subject to regulation 9.1. Upon playing a game for an Affiliated Football
Club, the player is unable to register with another Affiliated Football Club in that
season unless the player has written consent to do so by both clubs concerned, and
completes appropriate clearance forms.

the above is from the Community FL Regs, do you know what grounds Mallala refused the first clearance Swamp?
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:14 pm

Ace of Spades wrote:9. Clearance – Cannot Be Refused
9.1 Financial Indebtedness and Contractual Obligation
A player of an Affiliated League Club to who has no financial indebtedness (applies to
Subscriptions for the players previous season played only) or contractual obligation to
that Club must not and can not be refused a Clearance on any grounds.
The standard SACFL Leagues Playing Contract, in a form approved by the Board
from time to time; will be the only contract recognised in the instance of any appeal
where ‘Contractual Obligation’ is given as the reason for any refusal of a Clearance.

9.4 Currently Registered Player
A player who is yet to play a game for a club in the current season cannot be refused
a clearance, subject to regulation 9.1. Upon playing a game for an Affiliated Football
Club, the player is unable to register with another Affiliated Football Club in that
season unless the player has written consent to do so by both clubs concerned, and
completes appropriate clearance forms.

the above is from the Community FL Regs, do you know what grounds Mallala refused the first clearance Swamp?


its quite obvious they dont want him going to an rival club. i reckon that is all
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby UNDERthePACK » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:16 pm

Mallala in another Clearance Saga!!!! Surprise, Surprise.

Sounds very similar to the Ben Moffatt request to leave Mallala and go play with mates at Hamley last season. No one could question the clubman Moffat was at Mallala and the extra stuff he put in around the club but when he went and asked the club for a favour to clear him to Hamley to play with mates he was told NO (and that was to go to a side that had only won 3 games in 3 years) so he then left our league and played in the NEFL.

Unfortunately for Chappy it may be a similar story and the APFL again lose another A grade footballer to a neighbouring comp because too many heads are up each other a**e at the Mallala Football Club
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Ace of Spades » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:27 pm

mighty hounds wrote:its quite obvious they dont want him going to an rival club. i reckon that is all


Am I miss reading clause 9.1 that states if he doesn't owe any money and isnt under a current contract then he cannot be refused a clearance under any circumstances?
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Ace of Spades » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:30 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:
Dr. Pink wrote:
Swamp Donkey wrote:
Frognastie wrote:It probadly really sums up the Malalla Football Club



Could somebody explain why the clearance rule is in place in the Adelaide Plains


:?

Not sure what you are trying to say.



Pretty simple, I was wondering if anyone actually understands why the clearance rule is in place. Anyone can guess but does anybody know why there are restrictions on players changing clubs at will? This is a genuine question, no hidden agendas and I'm not trying to be a smart arse, I am just curious as to why there is a protocol to restrict players chopping and changing.


From reading the regs I believe the clearance proceedure to be in place to protect clubs financially and to ensure player contracts are upheld.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:30 pm

Ace of Spades wrote:9. Clearance – Cannot Be Refused
9.1 Financial Indebtedness and Contractual Obligation
A player of an Affiliated League Club to who has no financial indebtedness (applies to
Subscriptions for the players previous season played only) or contractual obligation to
that Club must not and can not be refused a Clearance on any grounds.
The standard SACFL Leagues Playing Contract, in a form approved by the Board
from time to time; will be the only contract recognised in the instance of any appeal
where ‘Contractual Obligation’ is given as the reason for any refusal of a Clearance.

9.4 Currently Registered Player
A player who is yet to play a game for a club in the current season cannot be refused
a clearance, subject to regulation 9.1. Upon playing a game for an Affiliated Football
Club, the player is unable to register with another Affiliated Football Club in that
season unless the player has written consent to do so by both clubs concerned, and
completes appropriate clearance forms.

the above is from the Community FL Regs, do you know what grounds Mallala refused the first clearance Swamp?


I think the first one was the first that they had heard about it so the club supposedly would've wanted to talk to the player. Most clubs would do the same.

The way I interpret these proviso's is that the trib would clear the player anyway, as Im sure he'd be financial, so I am not sure what we're arguing about.
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Re: ADELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Dr. Pink » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:31 pm

The scary thing is that none of the comments today have come from United people. Wait until Creature and the Moon Unit fire up!
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