Southern Football League

[MR JUICY]

Hear hear Panther 1136!

[Down the Hill]

Porties have been painted as the villian of the SFL this week what with the Morphy Park incidents and the poaching of players. The Shoes cop a bit with their pillaging of Hackham that aided their 4 consecutive GF appearances at the start of the last decade, but one can't forget Porties winning the 97 flag with 5 or 6 key players from the Christies 94 premiership. And in an era when Porties hosted the GF and must have made significant financial gain and an unfair advantage over other clubs in the SFL.

Didn't the Christies players leave rather than poached

i think you will find that is correct asert

Yes, but they still would have gone to the highest bidder and a club down the road with a bucket full of GF cash accommodated them.

[PANTHER 1136]

The christies boys left because the bar was shut at 12 after they had won A,B & C grade flags.

And if you come down on a thurs night they are the ones that are there till midnight most weeks and 2 of which are still playing a grade.

I wasnt around when they came accross but hell of a good investment i think

with 12 of our A grade all being under 21 it is great for them to see what is required to become great club men.

Again great investment

[lion heart]

couple of things.

The juniors that have left are because of lions not having a junior team
LIONS FIELD U8,10,12,14
The senior players that they have cleared to us only harris is still playing at the club and he left them last year but they didnt clear him, then he did his knee in a trial Harris was cleared as soon as his guernsey was returned

The other thing about us holding players, 1st of all we cleared Gary to losdale after a season of senior footy so the kid didnt sit out of football.Gary Karpany is a junior of OSB/Lons before PNFC so you had no grounds.
Josh Newham cleared to reynella with in a week.

A club gains nothing but bad blood by holding players. Will Gary ever go back to lonsdale? dont think so. already iam hearing from people why would you go to lonsdale. you have to be there for a minnimum 3 years or sit out footy.Practice what you preach Panther $$ had to exchange hands for us to secure Baxter's clearance. We are not talking about an average player here we are talking about an absolute star who kicked 49 goals for us last year. We had a contract he decided the grass was greener elsewhere at very late notice giving us no time to find a replacement.

If i quit my job at work i have to give 2 weeks notice yet if i want to leave my local amateur footbal club i have to stay there for 3 years.. come on lets be realistic. I couldnt agree with you more i hate the way local footy is going but unfortunately $$$$$$ are ruining the game at grassroots level. Clubs have to protect themselves from circling vultures.

[PANTHER 1136]

Lion heart the question i ask is

What does a club gain by not clearing a player?

If its principle good on you Alf Stewart, but how does that help lonsdale

We have a dfferent out look to the commitee that was around when Ashley was at Porties, and that is shown by the fact that Gary wanted to come back and Probably Ashley wont ever.

I just dont see the logic in burning bidges

[Deep Heat]

Here's a thought instead of carrying on like children and stopping someone from playing when someone wants to leave a club. Why dont you think about the big picture. Do you really want someone at your club that doesnt want to be there and also if its happening on a regular basis obviously there are bigger issues at your club pushing players away. You cant blame porties if these guys walk in and want to play there your club would do thge same thing if players left another club and came to your clubs .

[Farva]

couple of things.

The juniors that have left are because of lions not having a junior team
The senior players that they have cleared to us only harris is still playing at the club and he left them last year but they didnt clear him, then he did his knee in a trial

The other thing about us holding players, 1st of all we cleared Gary to losdale after a season of senior footy so the kid didnt sit out of football.
Josh Newham cleared to reynella with in a week.

A club gains nothing but bad blood by holding players. Will Gary ever go back to lonsdale? dont think so. already iam hearing from people why would you go to lonsdale. you have to be there for a minnimum 3 years or sit out footy.

If i quit my job at work i have to give 2 weeks notice yet if i want to leave my local amateur footbal club i have to stay there for 3 years.. come on lets be realistic

The juniors that went to port noarlunga were under 14s and we do have under 14s this season, gary would be cleared to any club outside the league in a heartbeat and one of the other players that was cleared was gary's brother tyson.

[MatteeG]

Porties have been painted as the villian of the SFL this week what with the Morphy Park incidents and the poaching of players. The Shoes cop a bit with their pillaging of Hackham that aided their 4 consecutive GF appearances at the start of the last decade, but one can't forget Porties winning the 97 flag with 5 or 6 key players from the Christies 94 premiership. And in an era when Porties hosted the GF and must have made significant financial gain and an unfair advantage over other clubs in the SFL.

Didn't the Christies players leave rather than poached

i think you will find that is correct asert

I believe that too- apparent the $$ went missing and the premiership players didnt get their coin?

Sweendog you still here?

[White Line Fever]

A signed contract for $$ is the only factor that should stop a club withholding player from a clearance IMO
Although i could never play against former team mates.

[vics01]

FARVA
The juniors that went to port noarlunga were under 14s and we do have under 14s this season, gary would be cleared to any club outside the league in a heartbeat and one of the other players that was cleared was gary's brother tyson.

Maybe they wanted to play in A team on Saturday (14's)

[derwood]

Tyson is playing U16's at Porties ...Not U14's..
Porties have had a couple of OSB/Lons Juniors come across ONLY because OSB/Lons do not have U16's..
What/Where would you like these juniors to play?
If....If ....Gary was to go back to OSB?Lons (Won't Happen) Do you really expect him to play to his normally high standards for a club he no longer wants to be at?
Give the lad a clearance so he can play footy for the club he wants to play for. !!

[Waterboy]

Here's a thought instead of carrying on like children and stopping someone from playing when someone wants to leave a club. Why dont you think about the big picture. Do you really want someone at your club that doesnt want to be there and also if its happening on a regular basis obviously there are bigger issues at your club pushing players away. You cant blame porties if these guys walk in and want to play there your club would do thge same thing if players left another club and came to your clubs .

Not so sure about Lonsdale pushing players away. Every player who left (except for Gary who wouldn't return calls or answer his phone) has said in an exit interview that they had no problems with Lonsdale. Most of the juniors (under 14s and younger) said that they were told that if they went to Porties they would have a better chance of being picked up by South Adelaide.

[Waterboy]

Tyson is playing U16's at Porties ...Not U14's..
Porties have had a couple of OSB/Lons Juniors come across ONLY because OSB/Lons do not have U16's..
What/Where would you like these juniors to play?
If....If ....Gary was to go back to OSB?Lons (Won't Happen) Do you really expect him to play to his normally high standards for a club he no longer wants to be at?
Give the lad a clearance so he can play footy for the club he wants to play for. !!

Lonsdale have had no problems with clearing the under 16s, both players were cleared within a day of their applications coming in. In previous seasons Lonsdale's under 14s and 16s have been sent to Christies or Morphett Vale to get a game.

[Waterboy]

couple of things.

The juniors that have left are because of lions not having a junior team
The senior players that they have cleared to us only harris is still playing at the club and he left them last year but they didnt clear him, then he did his knee in a trial

The other thing about us holding players, 1st of all we cleared Gary to losdale after a season of senior footy so the kid didnt sit out of football.
Josh Newham cleared to reynella with in a week.

A club gains nothing but bad blood by holding players. Will Gary ever go back to lonsdale? dont think so. already iam hearing from people why would you go to lonsdale. you have to be there for a minnimum 3 years or sit out footy.

If i quit my job at work i have to give 2 weeks notice yet if i want to leave my local amateur footbal club i have to stay there for 3 years.. come on lets be realistic

No other player has ever been held by Lonsdale on the 3 year rule, and probably never would be again. Gary signed a contract that isn't recognised by the Community Football Board, but is a contract none the less. A worker on an annual contract who wanted to quit would be up for breach of contract.

[brother noompsy 11]

Here's a thought instead of carrying on like children and stopping someone from playing when someone wants to leave a club. Why dont you think about the big picture. Do you really want someone at your club that doesnt want to be there and also if its happening on a regular basis obviously there are bigger issues at your club pushing players away. You cant blame porties if these guys walk in and want to play there your club would do thge same thing if players left another club and came to your clubs .

Yeah good call deep heat and panther 1136 and the defensive side Lion heart .But cum on lion heart just let the bloke play footy you shouldnt be held back bkos of a contract.thats fu***n crap. apparently ther was a meeting during the week about this so i heard between the league and 2 partys but the coach form sullies didnt rock up or sumthin can any 1 confirm that ...???

[brother noompsy 11]

Porties have been painted as the villian of the SFL this week what with the Morphy Park incidents and the poaching of players. The Shoes cop a bit with their pillaging of Hackham that aided their 4 consecutive GF appearances at the start of the last decade, but one can't forget Porties winning the 97 flag with 5 or 6 key players from the Christies 94 premiership. And in an era when Porties hosted the GF and must have made significant financial gain and an unfair advantage over other clubs in the SFL.

Didn't the Christies players leave rather than poached

i think you will find that is correct asert

I believe that too- apparent the $$ went missing and the premiership players didnt get their coin?

Sweendog you still here?

yeah porties made heaps of coin of the gf mate so iv heard to there getting a roof on there oval next year they v had the the coin in a high intrest account there loaded they might b able to poach sum of your useless players from your club that get paid the big bucks

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

To Brother Dearest
Our club doesn't have any players that get paid big bucks, nor useless players, so you are really showing your ignorance of our club here.

I reckon you should probably have let it go through to the keeper

[Waterboy]

Here's a thought instead of carrying on like children and stopping someone from playing when someone wants to leave a club. Why dont you think about the big picture. Do you really want someone at your club that doesnt want to be there and also if its happening on a regular basis obviously there are bigger issues at your club pushing players away. You cant blame porties if these guys walk in and want to play there your club would do thge same thing if players left another club and came to your clubs .

Yeah good call deep heat and panther 1136 and the defensive side Lion heart .But cum on lion heart just let the bloke play footy you shouldnt be held back bkos of a contract.thats fu***n crap. apparently ther was a meeting during the week about this so i heard between the league and 2 partys but the coach form sullies didnt rock up or sumthin can any 1 confirm that ...???

Sullies coach had work committments so meeting couldn't go ahead. A couple of alternative dates were suggested and they're waiting on Porties to confirm when is good for them.

[PANTHER 1136]

Fair enough if the lonsdale coach had work,but dont you think they should notify people more than 1/2 an hour before the meeting is to take place and not leave the SFL president and offcials sitting around waiting for him.

My under standing of the situation is that most people at lonsdale wanted to clear gary because, he doesnt want to be there so move him on, but a couple of people have convinced the committe and players other wise and that is why we are where we are

Waterboy
A worker on an annual contract would only be in breach of it if the contract was recognized by the relevent authority and then they would be able to give notice not just be held for the length of the agreement, or the employer could just hold him and watch his work, care factor and attendence slide and be taken advantage of.

Nobody has given me an answer

What do clubs gain by not clearing a player?
do you want the player not playing against you for the next 3 years

[Esteban Vihaio]

Porties have been painted as the villian of the SFL this week what with the Morphy Park incidents and the poaching of players. The Shoes cop a bit with their pillaging of Hackham that aided their 4 consecutive GF appearances at the start of the last decade, but one can't forget Porties winning the 97 flag with 5 or 6 key players from the Christies 94 premiership. And in an era when Porties hosted the GF and must have made significant financial gain and an unfair advantage over other clubs in the SFL.

Didn't the Christies players leave rather than poached

i think you will find that is correct asert

Yes, but they still would have gone to the highest bidder and a club down the road with a bucket full of GF cash accommodated them.

Given the Christies boys left as opposed to being poached, I think it is unfair to have a go at Porties for recruiting these guys. After all, it is the closest club to Bice Oval and at the time was the most successful those closeby. I would not be a stretch to think they even knew a number of guys at Porties after living in the area.