trade week 2010 Oct 5-11

[Trader]

Don't get me wrong, I agree the Tambling deal isn't the worst idea for the crows, but what I can't understand is why all these crows fans are coming out saying picks can be hit and miss, but then saying Tambling is going to be a star cause he was a high pick. Why can't he be the miss part of hit and miss? You can't have both sides of the argument.

[Pup]

according to trade week radio ryan gamble maybe to the blues and A deal for bachelor Houli to Richmond is very close

houli re-signed at essendon mate. staying put.

You Sure?

Don't Think he has?

[norm11]

Collingwood after Tarrant...

Whos spot is he going to take? They have plenty of young good defenders.

Maybe he will be a good addition for Williamstown

Play him forward

[Gingernuts]

Deal for Tambling was done late this arvo & will be finalised in the morning...Crows to give Tigers the draft pick they got for Bock + a 3rd round pick.

so 2 draft picks for tambling i think richmond got the better deal

Not particularly comfortable that we had to give away two picks to get him to be honest. Still happy with the decision to trade for him though. Now we all watch with interest.

One thing is for sure, one side of the arguement will be saying 'I told you so' this time next year.

[Dissident]

Don't get me wrong, I agree the Tambling deal isn't the worst idea for the crows, but what I can't understand is why all these crows fans are coming out saying picks can be hit and miss, but then saying Tambling is going to be a star cause he was a high pick. Why can't he be the miss part of hit and miss? You can't have both sides of the argument.

Well, I didn't say that.

I said there was upside for both.

A player can have more worth at a new club simply because he's run his course for whatever reason at his old one. Damn, I've moved jobs before and flourished in a role that isn't much different that what I had.

So in saying that, Tambling has more worth to Adelaide, than Richmond.

And Richmond get picks. They can use them how they like, and good luck to them. I said pick 50+ is hit and miss because, really, it is. That's a fact.

And as for pick 20something, they might get a good player or they might not, time will tell.

I think it's an even trade.

[Dissident]

Deal for Tambling was done late this arvo & will be finalised in the morning...Crows to give Tigers the draft pick they got for Bock + a 3rd round pick.

so 2 draft picks for tambling i think richmond got the better deal

Not particularly comfortable that we had to give away two picks to get him to be honest. Still happy with the decision to trade for him though. Now we all watch with interest.

One thing is for sure, one side of the arguement will be saying 'I told you so' this time next year.

If you're interested in Richard Tambling for pick 20something, then throwing in pick 50 isn't much of a stretch really.

If it is, then you aren't really that interested.

[Pag]

I always fall short talking about who got a "better deal" when it's picks for players.

Who knows?

The Crows give up (effectively) a pick at the start of the second round, and a third round pick (ALWAYS hit and miss). They get a player who was rated extremely high as a junior, taken pick 4 who has a lot of upside and room to move IMO.

I think he's been victim of circumstance - being taken before Buddy, being at a club which hasn't been successful, much maligned by his own supporters, that has to weight somewhat on output and performance.

He's not South Australian and he REQUESTED the Crows as his destination. Sure, he probably wouldn't have had many suitors past a handful - but - he wants to cross the border and get away from Melbourne, Richmond, the media, the supporters and do what he always could do but hasn't yet.

To be honest, we got him at a good time, the best time. Early 20s, had what was probably his best year, just lost McLeod so some run is good. We have traded for worse players that have turned out to be far better players.

Richmond get some picks - and until we see what they get and how they go - who knows who the winner is.

But to be honest, both clubs come out of it well.

His best year wasn't this year mate, was probably 2009 when he played more off half-back. And he's been much-maligned by his own supporters due to his lack of work-rate and non-existent ability to win his own contested footy.

If he's more worried about what the supporters think, then he's made the wrong choice by going to a club with over 40,000 members. Unless he pulls his finger out of his ass, the Crows supporters are going to be just as frustrated as we've been for the past six years. It's easy to say the supporters give him a hard time, but generally when a whole club's fan base thinks the same way, it isn't the wrong way.

Good luck to the Crows, they're trying to strengthen what they see as as weakness in their side, but it would want to be a different Tambling to the one we've seen run around in circles for half a decade. I'll happily take two draft picks for him anyday.

[Pat Malone]

Wont play forward, crows got him for extra pace so will be wing/half back. Plenty of handy players have struggled in good sides last few years due to being 'outside' players rather than 'inside' so lets not be too harsh until we see him at Adelaide. Some pretty dumb comments been made so far, we all love to analyze our draft picks but there comes a time when future team worth should overtake the original cost of a player. Why are people comparing RT to Buddy when arguably Johncock (#67) has outperformed Scotty Thompson (#16) from the same draft?

[X Runna]

I always fall short talking about who got a "better deal" when it's picks for players.

Who knows?

The Crows give up (effectively) a pick at the start of the second round, and a third round pick (ALWAYS hit and miss). They get a player who was rated extremely high as a junior, taken pick 4 who has a lot of upside and room to move IMO.

I think he's been victim of circumstance - being taken before Buddy, being at a club which hasn't been successful, much maligned by his own supporters, that has to weight somewhat on output and performance.

He's not South Australian and he REQUESTED the Crows as his destination. Sure, he probably wouldn't have had many suitors past a handful - but - he wants to cross the border and get away from Melbourne, Richmond, the media, the supporters and do what he always could do but hasn't yet.

To be honest, we got him at a good time, the best time. Early 20s, had what was probably his best year, just lost McLeod so some run is good. We have traded for worse players that have turned out to be far better players.

Richmond get some picks - and until we see what they get and how they go - who knows who the winner is.

But to be honest, both clubs come out of it well.

His best year wasn't this year mate, was probably 2009 when he played more off half-back. And he's been much-maligned by his own supporters due to his lack of work-rate and non-existent ability to win his own contested footy.

If he's more worried about what the supporters think, then he's made the wrong choice by going to a club with over 40,000 members. Unless he pulls his finger out of his ass, the Crows supporters are going to be just as frustrated as we've been for the past six years. It's easy to say the supporters give him a hard time, but generally when a whole club's fan base thinks the same way, it isn't the wrong way.

Good luck to the Crows, they're trying to strengthen what they see as as weakness in their side, but it would want to be a different Tambling to the one we've seen run around in circles for half a decade. I'll happily take two draft picks for him anyday.

Reminds me a lot of Nathan Krakouer, but a better all round player (just at this stage)

[Booney]

What's the go with Motlop?
Wants to be traded to WA to be closer to son - fair enough.
But no WA club interested, so he's still going to leave but go to Melbourne...
Strange.

I think it is probably more a matter of Port trying to unload him rather than have to keep him on the list for another year.

I would think if no trade is done that Francou can start to plan where Motlop will be playing.

[Mr Beefy]

Collingwood after Tarrant...

Whos spot is he going to take? They have plenty of young good defenders.

Maybe he will be a good addition for Williamstown

Collingwood have their own reserves team nowadays.

[Strawb]

Collingwood after Tarrant...

Whos spot is he going to take? They have plenty of young good defenders.

Maybe he will be a good addition for Williamstown

Collingwood have their own reserves team nowadays.

Correct the bulldogs have Willy as their ressies.

[Booney]

If one more person puts Tambling and McLeod in the same sentence....

I know fans need to be positive ( hey BC? ) about trades but people, please, Tambling has been in and out of the bottom feeding Tigers for 5 years now.

If, and I repeat if, he makes a change for the better and becomes a consitent AFL performer I'll happily eat my words but I am confident I wont have to.

[Bum Crack]

If one more person puts Tambling and McLeod in the same sentence....

I know fans need to be positive ( hey BC? ) about trades but people, please, Tambling has been in and out of the bottom feeding Tigers for 5 years now.

If, and I repeat if, he makes a change for the better and becomes a consitent AFL performer I'll happily eat my words but I am confident I wont have to.

Exactly what I said and i got my head ripped off.

[Psyber]

I'm not excited about the acquisition of Tambling, who has not really impressed at Richmond.
However, I assume the Crows administration have considered what they think they can do with him, and get out of him, before making the deal.
Hopefully, they get it right..

[Footy Smart]

If one more person puts Tambling and McLeod in the same sentence....

I know fans need to be positive ( hey BC? ) about trades but people, please, Tambling has been in and out of the bottom feeding Tigers for 5 years now.

If, and I repeat if, he makes a change for the better and becomes a consitent AFL performer I'll happily eat my words but I am confident I wont have to.

Exactly what I said and i got my head ripped off.

First of all, the reference to McLeod is purely due to position/role in the team he will play.

Yes he has been in and out but you summed it up when you said the 'bottom feeding tigers' similar player eg Young from hawthorn and pearce from Port struggle as well when they dont get given the footy..... Tambling, while his work rate may not have been up to scratch at the Tigs needed support from his team which hasnt been there cos they have been shizenhousen since his debut.

[Dissident]

I always fall short talking about who got a "better deal" when it's picks for players.

Who knows?

The Crows give up (effectively) a pick at the start of the second round, and a third round pick (ALWAYS hit and miss). They get a player who was rated extremely high as a junior, taken pick 4 who has a lot of upside and room to move IMO.

I think he's been victim of circumstance - being taken before Buddy, being at a club which hasn't been successful, much maligned by his own supporters, that has to weight somewhat on output and performance.

He's not South Australian and he REQUESTED the Crows as his destination. Sure, he probably wouldn't have had many suitors past a handful - but - he wants to cross the border and get away from Melbourne, Richmond, the media, the supporters and do what he always could do but hasn't yet.

To be honest, we got him at a good time, the best time. Early 20s, had what was probably his best year, just lost McLeod so some run is good. We have traded for worse players that have turned out to be far better players.

Richmond get some picks - and until we see what they get and how they go - who knows who the winner is.

But to be honest, both clubs come out of it well.

His best year wasn't this year mate, was probably 2009 when he played more off half-back. And he's been much-maligned by his own supporters due to his lack of work-rate and non-existent ability to win his own contested footy.

If he's more worried about what the supporters think, then he's made the wrong choice by going to a club with over 40,000 members. Unless he pulls his finger out of his ass, the Crows supporters are going to be just as frustrated as we've been for the past six years. It's easy to say the supporters give him a hard time, but generally when a whole club's fan base thinks the same way, it isn't the wrong way.

Good luck to the Crows, they're trying to strengthen what they see as as weakness in their side, but it would want to be a different Tambling to the one we've seen run around in circles for half a decade. I'll happily take two draft picks for him anyday.

Yes, sorry - 2009 is what I was thinking of.

He is not worried by what supporters think. My point is that being in a place with that feeling about you as a player HAS to have an effect. Players can often move and play their best footy because things aren't 100% at the club they came from (for whatever reason).

[Gingernuts]

Tambling = maybe dud, maybe not.

Point is, Adelaide haven't had to sell their soul to get him.

Bock pick = second rounder sometime in the next 5 years - with the compromised drafts of this year and GWS reality is it will be 4-5 years before you could get value for this pick, which does not fit with the development timeframe of the current squad.

3rd rounder = luck of the draw.

Anyway, we can all keep trading hot air about it but at the end of the day only time will tell if it was a good move or not. I reckon it will end up being a win win for both Adelaide and Richmond, which is what you want from a good trade.

[Choccies]

I know they are only stats but for a guy as maligned as he has been, playing in a terrible side over the last few years his figures look OK. 2010 was obviously ruined by the hip surgery he had but I'm going to give the guy a chance because I reckon his best is ahead of him and playing in a tight, better disciplined structure will only help him.

[Drop Bear]

I know they are only stats but for a guy as maligned as he has been, playing in a terrible side over the last few years his figures look OK. 2010 was obviously ruined by the hip surgery he had but I'm going to give the guy a chance because I reckon his best is ahead of him and playing in a tight, better disciplined structure will only help him.

That's right. How about supporters get behind him and back him in. Could be a gun. Who knows....the next McLeod