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Reports sugggest Paddy Ryder has chosen port:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-26/p ... s-for-port

What do others think we should give Essendon as compensation?

Personally- I see us giving #16 and a 3 way trade sees Newton gone too (has been linked to Geelong).
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I think pick #16 will get the deal done. I think Essendon wouldn't want to push it too much or they could lose him for nothing.
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Cheap bastards, he's worth a lot more than 16.
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smac wrote:Cheap bastards, he's worth a lot more than 16.

Exactly but due to our current situation they have leverage over us. I dont think the club will risk going down the legal path but personally id rather risk losing him for nothing
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kickinit wrote:I think pick #16 will get the deal done. I think Essendon wouldn't want to push it too much or they could lose him for nothing.


God i hope so but highly highly doubt we'll get him for pick 16!
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carey wrote:
kickinit wrote:I think pick #16 will get the deal done. I think Essendon wouldn't want to push it too much or they could lose him for nothing.


God i hope so but highly highly doubt we'll get him for pick 16!


You'd imagine it would require Port trading up for a higher pick or including a player of some worth. I don't see Ryder using the escape clause and if he did would that make him a free agent or would he have to go into the draft? Ryder would fit Port's needs beautifully so I don't envisage them letting this one slip by trying to get him on the cheap.
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I think we should trade Butcher for Ryder :D
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Grahaml wrote:
carey wrote:
kickinit wrote:I think pick #16 will get the deal done. I think Essendon wouldn't want to push it too much or they could lose him for nothing.


God i hope so but highly highly doubt we'll get him for pick 16!


You'd imagine it would require Port trading up for a higher pick or including a player of some worth. I don't see Ryder using the escape clause and if he did would that make him a free agent or would he have to go into the draft? Ryder would fit Port's needs beautifully so I don't envisage them letting this one slip by trying to get him on the cheap.


He will go as a free agent. Port are pretty set on what they will offer, Hinkley already said we wouldn't trade any of our better players. Ryder set on leaving and by the sounds of it, it has now become a 1 horse race to get him. Port have also told him that if he's after $$ then Port isn't the club for him. I think Essendon will take pick 16 so they don't lose him for nothing.
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Yes pick 16 would get that deal done easily given the free agent scenario which we know means Essendon has no chance to get what they think he is really worth.
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Hondo wrote:Yes pick 16 would get that deal done easily given the free agent scenario which we know means Essendon has no chance to get what they think he is really worth.

Yes I would agree there I think thar with the circumstances pick 16 would get it down. But in my opinion Ryder is worth so much more.
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Would the show cause notice lower his value in a trade now?
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RustyCage wrote:Would the show cause notice lower his value in a trade now?


No, I don't think so.

Port ( or Brisbane or GWS ) would already have some indication on the potential penalty Ryder may get if he chooses to accept a penalty from ASADA.

This will be a very interesting case to watch unfold. If Ryder and Crameri decide to go it alone it will be very interesting.
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stan wrote:
Hondo wrote:Yes pick 16 would get that deal done easily given the free agent scenario which we know means Essendon has no chance to get what they think he is really worth.

Yes I would agree there I think thar with the circumstances pick 16 would get it down. But in my opinion Ryder is worth so much more.


Damn straight he is, but for once ( and let's see how it plays out here ) it seems Essendon may be showing some level of appreciation for what they have put the players through and as such they are willing to give a little here.
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i reckon 16 and some steak knives will get it done.
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Paddy's manager was on SEN earlier today. Mentioned a few key points.
- Paddy will not be accepting any deal from ASADA.
- Paddy needs a fresh start at a new club and it hasnt got anything to do with Hird but there are some issues.
- Paddy desires to come to Port but in the end Essendon has the final say. He believes a deal will be done with Port but it is up to Port to offer up a decent deal.
- Believes he is worth a lot more than pick 16 and its up to Port to get the deal done.
- Didnt rule out other clubs bidding for him but believes Essendon and Port will come to an arrangement
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The John Cahill Medal is being held tonight.

So far, the award winners are as follows:

Gavin Wanganeen Medal (best player U21): Ollie Wines (Back to Back)
Coaches Award: Matthew Lobbe
Fos Williams Medal (voted by the players): Travis Boak (also Back to Back)

14 Rounds into the B&F:

Robbie Gray leads on 219, from Kane Cornes (165) and Brad Ebert (159)
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Brad Ebert wins the John McCarthy award for outstanding contribution within the community.
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Robbie Gray is crowned Port Adelaide's John Cahill Medallist, winning in an absolute canter from Travis Boak and Kane Cornes.

Fantastic reward for a truly exceptional season from Gray- also taking home All Australian selection and the Coaches Association Player of the Year.

Congratulations Robbie!
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Top 10 Leaderboard from the 2014 John Cahill Medal:

Robbie Gray – 398 votes
Travis Boak – 255
Kane Cornes – 237
Justin Westhoff – 232
Matt Lobbe – 227
Jay Schulz, Ollie Wines – 220
Hamish Hartlett – 219
Chad Wingard – 208
Tom Jonas – 185
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valleys07 wrote:Top 10 Leaderboard from the 2014 John Cahill Medal:

Robbie Gray – 398 votes
Travis Boak – 255
Kane Cornes – 237
Justin Westhoff – 232
Matt Lobbe – 227
Jay Schulz, Ollie Wines – 220
Hamish Hartlett – 219
Chad Wingard – 208
Tom Jonas – 185



Well done Robbie, awesome season and deserved winner. 8)

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