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On return to the game will he get booed like Goodes was?
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Brodlach wrote:On return to the game will he get booed like Goodes was?

Quite rightly by Carlton supporters
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My question is how is a character reference relevant when you have video of the incident?

And why the f**k is our Prime Minister wasting his and our time going in to bat for a guy at a sporting tribunal?

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Wedgie wrote:What penalties did the Carlton player who was holding onto Houli illegally and the Melbourne diver get?
These are the ones Id be punishing.

So, every player who holds onto an opponent should get suspended or fined? Your happy for blokes to knock out their opponent if they hold on?

If someone holds onto you your natural reaction is to swing your arm to get away from it. Its against the rules and if people learn to stop doing it after a couple of knocks to the chops because the umpires are too useless to pay it then so be it. Fix the cause, not the reaction.

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firstly, he was not let off. he got 2 weeks.
secondly, character references are used everyday at courts and tribunals. why are sports people not allowed to use them? agreed using the PM was a stretch though.
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MW wrote:firstly, he was not let off. he got 2 weeks.
secondly, character references are used everyday at courts and tribunals. why are sports people not allowed to use them? agreed using the PM was a stretch though.

Because his charity work has nothing to do with him knocking someone out cold.

You think someone cant care about his community and still like knocking the odd bloke out?

What he did either side of that swing should have nothing to do with it.

Hes getting suspended from playing a game, not going to jail. Judge the incident in isolation, penalise him and move on.

I think the AFL are trying to create headlines above everything else.

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Who cares if it was 'out of character'... if i speed in my car it is out of character, can i have my fine reduced please because i volunteer at the kids hospital amd deliver meals on wheels to elderly invalids?
If you swing your arm deliberately and clock him in the chops causing him to be knocked unconscious immediately then i dont care what your character is like, you are guilty and you deserve more than a paltry 2 weeks.

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I think 2 weeks was spot on
its his word, but I agree his intent was to break the carltons player hold on his arm/shoulder. not contact with his jaw and knock him out.
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kneedeepinthehoopla wrote:
Brodlach wrote:On return to the game will he get booed like Goodes was?

Quite rightly by Carlton supporters


You would need to boo the AFL tribunal, not Houli...
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MW wrote:I think 2 weeks was spot on
its his word, but I agree his intent was to break the carltons player hold on his arm/shoulder. not contact with his jaw and knock him out.

I thought it was judged on the resulting injury, not the intent these days.


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Dutchy wrote:
kneedeepinthehoopla wrote:
Brodlach wrote:On return to the game will he get booed like Goodes was?

Quite rightly by Carlton supporters


You would need to boo the AFL tribunal, not Houli...

I must've missed the part where the tribunal ran on the ground and punched Lamb in the head and knocked him out
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MW wrote:firstly, he was not let off. he got 2 weeks.
secondly, character references are used everyday at courts and tribunals. why are sports people not allowed to use them? agreed using the PM was a stretch though.

He got let off lightly.
The tribunal ruled that it was intentional which carries a 3 week minimum ban but his sentence is the same as if it was graded by the MRP as careless, high impact, high contact.
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kneedeepinthehoopla wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
kneedeepinthehoopla wrote:
Brodlach wrote:On return to the game will he get booed like Goodes was?

Quite rightly by Carlton supporters


You would need to boo the AFL tribunal, not Houli...

I must've missed the part where the tribunal ran on the ground and punched Lamb in the head and knocked him out


And he has apologised, been remorseful and now has a penalty to serve...what more do you want?
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MW wrote:I think 2 weeks was spot on
its his word, but I agree his intent was to break the carltons player hold on his arm/shoulder. not contact with his jaw and knock him out.

Doesn't matter what his word is. The tribunal took under 5 minutes to decide it was intentional. Once it was ruled intentional it's a minimum 3 week ban with the AFL legal team pushing for 4 weeks. Character references shouldn't even enter the argument. Still a chance for the AFL to appeal the decision
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HH3 wrote:
MW wrote:I think 2 weeks was spot on
its his word, but I agree his intent was to break the carltons player hold on his arm/shoulder. not contact with his jaw and knock him out.

I thought it was judged on the resulting injury, not the intent these days.


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yeah true.
what was the injury to Lamb? concussion, miss one week?
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Wedgie wrote:What penalties did the Carlton player who was holding onto Houli illegally and the Melbourne diver get?
These are the ones Id be punishing.


Just a sleep in the middle of the MCG for his actions.

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Just logged on. Seems the last hour on here has been interesting. Plenty of editing going on.

Schofield getting off is good news.

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MW wrote:
HH3 wrote:
MW wrote:I think 2 weeks was spot on
its his word, but I agree his intent was to break the carltons player hold on his arm/shoulder. not contact with his jaw and knock him out.

I thought it was judged on the resulting injury, not the intent these days.


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yeah true.
what was the injury to Lamb? concussion, miss one week?

How many weeks did Vickery get for hitting Cox in a ruck contest? 4 was is? Didn't even knock him out.

Concussions can be life changing.

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And he has apologised, been remorseful and now has a penalty to serve...what more do you want?[/quote]

Nothing Dutchy. Doesn't impact me or Carlton how many weeks he gets really. But he has an undeniably lenient penalty to serve.
Supporters of a club generally get their backs up when an opposition player KO's one of their own off the ball, so he should expect backlash for his hit-and-run.
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HH3 wrote:
MW wrote:
HH3 wrote:
MW wrote:I think 2 weeks was spot on
its his word, but I agree his intent was to break the carltons player hold on his arm/shoulder. not contact with his jaw and knock him out.

I thought it was judged on the resulting injury, not the intent these days.


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yeah true.
what was the injury to Lamb? concussion, miss one week?

How many weeks did Vickery get for hitting Cox in a ruck contest? 4 was is? Didn't even knock him out.

Concussions can be life changing.

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I actually wasn't being sarcastic!
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