Sanderson sacked

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:36 am

They can only be going down one of two paths.

Poaching a current coach who has runs on the board ( Clarkson, Roos, Longmire, Thompson ) or they have a senior assistant in mind for a team approach. Perhaps a Mark Williams and Nathan Basset, Brett Ratten and Stuart Dew etc.

As I said earlier, this is a massive decision for the AFC and might shape their long term not just short term future. One thing for sure, another coach gets booted in 3 years if he hasn't won one then good luck finding anyone to do the job!

Either way you would think Bickley, Camporeale and Clarke should be updating their resumes.

Heard Leigh Mathews say the other night, as part of the group who oversaw the Sanderson appointment, the final 4 was Burns, Sanderson, Bickley and one other....Bickley? :shock:

Rik E Boy · Post by **Rik E Boy** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:39 am

cracka wrote:Wow, now that he's been sacked all of a sudden Crow haters are saying Sando was actually a good coach.

No, they are saying he was shit but compared to other available candidates he's Norm flamin Smith.

regards,

REB

cracka · Post by **cracka** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:58 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
cracka wrote:Wow, now that he's been sacked all of a sudden Crow haters are saying Sando was actually a good coach.

No, they are saying he was shit but compared to other available candidates he's Norm flamin Smith.

regards,

REB

Yeah riiiiiiight.

Post by **heater31** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:29 pm

cracka wrote:Wow, now that he's been sacked all of a sudden Crow haters are saying Sando was actually a good coach.

Not I.....been saying this for 18 months Sanderson and his Team went backwards when Dean Bailey wasn't around.

MW · Post by MW » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:01 pm

If the senior assistant is that important to the sides success maybe the senior assistant should be the senior coach...

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:26 pm

MW wrote:If the senior assistant is that important to the sides success maybe the senior assistant should be the senior coach...

True, but you can only have one "head/senior coach" from there the assistants must be ranked, there has to be some order. Senior assistant/strategy, then line coaches.

Grahaml · Post by **Grahaml** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:57 pm

Reckon once you decide a bloke isn't going to do the job you need to move on these days. Worked for Collingwood sticking with Tony Shaw until they had someone better lined up but the game is evolving faster than ever. If the next guy turns out the same the club will be in about the same position.

Port were in the same boat a couple years ago, decided Primus wasn't the man and took a punt with an untried coach. The same "wisdom" was doing the rounds, that Port needed an experienced coach. Hindsight is great and now everyone talks like Hinkley was a clear standout but make no mistake, plenty of clubs turned him down and plenty of coaches picked "anyone but Port". If you don't try to change when things are going awry then you're no chance.

valleys07 · Post by **valleys07** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:51 pm

Grahaml wrote:Reckon once you decide a bloke isn't going to do the job you need to move on these days. Worked for Collingwood sticking with Tony Shaw until they had someone better lined up but the game is evolving faster than ever. If the next guy turns out the same the club will be in about the same position.

Port were in the same boat a couple years ago, decided Primus wasn't the man and took a punt with an untried coach. The same "wisdom" was doing the rounds, that Port needed an experienced coach. Hindsight is great and now everyone talks like Hinkley was a clear standout but make no mistake, plenty of clubs turned him down and plenty of coaches picked "anyone but Port". If you don't try to change when things are going awry then you're no chance.

I agree with the point in bold Graham- no question.

Concerning Primus v Sanderson- the two are comparable in quite a few ways, but Port's need to change coaches in comparison to Adelaide, differs IMO.

Primus wasn't the man to take us forward- yes, he wasnt given a lot of cattle to work with but could see that he lacked the ability to "announce himself" as a figure of authority within the footy club- and wasn't demanding on the playing group to improve. Port were blinded by a 7 game patch at the end of season 2010 where we won 5 games- but Primus' gameplan was rubbish.

I think Sando this season was reactive in the coaches box- but was crippled via lack of draft talent through the club, lack of pressure in the reserves, and lack of direction in the coaches box. With a first full year in the draft, a revamp of his assistant coaches and line coaches, and employment of a senior assistant- I think Sando would have improved next year and the crows would (they still might anyway) have played finals next year under him.

Yank Man · Post by **Yank Man** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:16 pm

MW wrote:If the senior assistant is that important to the sides success maybe the senior assistant should be the senior coach...

Sounds good in theory. If there is any doubt about the senior assistant its at Hawthorn. Clarko gets sick and Brendon (who?) Bolton takes over. He keeps them winning and sticking to structure and the Hawks are now in another GF. Me thinks your right hand needs to be on the very same page you are.

Me, dumb again, Bickley went within a bees of getting the gig over Sando after being the main man when Craigy got 'speared'. He has now been an assistant for a further 3 years in a tough system and no doubt would have had the capacity to dump on Sando's inefficiencies. Most media scribes have said that surely the Crows wouldn't have moved on Sando unless they had their man. Of course they had there man and he was right in their own backyard.

Mr Beefy · Post by **Mr Beefy** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:55 am

Maybe the senior assistants dont have the motivation to be fronting the media etc but still want to be coach. Let the young buck do the hard yards and be the scapegoat should that time come. They have been there done that.

dedja · Post by **dedja** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:51 pm

Clarko will be coming over as soon as he sobers up ... :lol:

smac · Post by **smac** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:07 pm

No he won't.

dedja · Post by **dedja** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:10 pm

derrrr

smac · Post by **smac** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:13 pm

Outstanding wit.

NFC · Post by **NFC** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:31 pm

If Bickley is our next coach, I am done.

Seriously I'm done.

Thankfully I don't think we'd be that stupid.

Chuck Wepner · Post by **Chuck Wepner** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:49 pm

NFC wrote:If Bickley is our next coach, I am done.

Seriously I'm done.

Thankfully I don't think we'd be that stupid.

Beggars can't be choosers.. :lol:

kickinit · Post by **kickinit** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:14 pm

NFC wrote:If Bickley is our next coach, I am done.

Seriously I'm done.

Thankfully I don't think we'd be that stupid.

At the moment it looks like you might not have much choice.

Brodlach · Post by **Brodlach** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:05 pm

Bickley, not the last man standing, the right man standing

stan · Post by **stan** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:27 pm

Brodlach wrote:Bickley, not the last man standing, the right man standing

Lol, please oh please make Bickley your next coach.

Post by **GWW** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:41 pm

Who are the other options? Bassett? Tudor?

I assume Burns has counted himself out, as haven't heard much recent media speculation about him.

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