SAAFL division 6 2014

[Q.]

Angle Vale forfeited both A & B grade tomorrow i've heard.. wont be any need for that police presence then..

So Ingle Farm get a lousy 60 point win.....could be costly.

On the flip side, guaranteed no injuries.

And a timely weeks rest.

[Arch44]

Congratulations to @carey and his partner Mel on the birth of their baby girl

Cheers PG.

Baby Phoebe Rose going along alright. She'll be staying well away from footy clubs that is for sure I've seen first hand what you blokes get up to!

Congrats Carey
Maybe one day Phoebe Rose will meet Jethro Henry quote]

A match made in heaven........

West Croydon and Central United! God help us

maybe it's best it doesn't happen

[Phantom Gossiper]

Congrats Carey
Maybe one day Phoebe Rose will meet Jethro Henry

A match made in heaven........

West Croydon and Central United! God help us

maybe it's best it doesn't happen

Fitzroy & NEK is classier

[cracka]

Angle Vale forfeited both A & B grade tomorrow i've heard.. wont be any need for that police presence then..

So Ingle Farm get a lousy 60 point win.....could be costly.

Dont lose and it won't be a problem

Unfortunately though I think you are right, and it could prove costly given how tight the top 4 is.

Hurts the B grade more than the A grade, they are 2nd, equal on points with Lockleys, with only a small % seperating them from top spot.

But wont it be a 100% win??? which is better for you & not so good for Lockleys.

Can't tell if serious or not, a 200 point win is better than a 60 point win

Yeah I was. A forfeit is generally a 60 points to nothing win which makes it 100%. If its a 200 point win but the opposition scores then its not a 100% win. If its a 200 points to nothing win then yeah that's better than just the 60 points for a forfeit. Hope that makes sense coz I think I've confused myself.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Makes sense cracka, and in most circumstances you would be correct, the percentage is largely dependant on how much the opposition scores, wouldn't imagine they'd kick many therefore opportunity to increase percentage is gone

[cracka]

Makes sense cracka, and in most circumstances you would be correct, the percentage is largely dependant on how much the opposition scores, wouldn't imagine they'd kick many therefore opportunity to increase percentage is gone

Cheers, my brain is hurting though.

[morell]

Percentage is calculated as a ratio - For / For + Against *100

If Ingle Farm beat Angle Vale 300-100, a 200 point win, their percentage will go from 73.2 to 73.5. If they cop the forfeit, their percentage will go to 73.9.

In almost all but the most extreme of cases, which I wouldn't have ruled out with those two sides playing, you're better off, percentage wise, getting the forfeit score - it's designed that way!

Given the advantage they will get by not playing I reckon Ingle Farm should be more than happy to get the 60-0 percentage.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Percentage is calculated as a ratio - For / For + Against *100

If Ingle Farm beat Angle Vale 300-100, a 200 point win, their percentage will go from 73.2 to 73.5. If they cop the forfeit, their percentage will go to 73.9.

In almost all but the most extreme of cases, which I wouldn't have ruled out with those two sides playing, you're better off, percentage wise, getting the forfeit score - it's designed that way!

Given the advantage they will get by not playing I reckon Ingle Farm should be more than happy to get the 60-0 percentage.

Percentage will be 73.05

No offence but i dont think you have a good understanding of percentage. As i mentioned earlier, it's not so much the margin that makes the difference, it's the points conceded.

For instance if Ingle Farm won same score as last week WC v AV (142-4), percentage would jump to 74.15%

Even using Flinders Pk v Angle Vale result (101-14) percentage would increase to 73.10%

But yes I think as disappointed as several blokes would be about not playing, percentage aside there is far more positives to be taken out of this given Ingle Farm have a tough month of football coming up after next week, and some sore bodies could use a week extra to recover. Playing Angle Vale (apart from %) was really a nothing to gain game for all involved - included Angle Vale

[Phantom Gossiper]

Apologies morell, I was refering to the B grade, didnt realise you were talking about the A grade with your figures.

[bickle]

well i heard on the grape vine that they had a B grade side but only about 8 A graders, which makes me wonder why they didnt pull the B's........strange call.

[Phantom Gossiper]

well i heard on the grape vine that they had a B grade side but only about 8 A graders, which makes me wonder why they didnt pull the B's........strange call.

Can't blame them, it's been a testing season and they've copped some severe hidings, morale must be rock bottom and fielding a B grade side against another top side on a small ground wouldn't do anything to benefit that morale plus could end up with injuries etc and be worse off than they currently are.

[morell]

Apologies morell, I was refering to the B grade, didnt realise you were talking about the A grade with your figures.

One day you will realise I am never wrong PG and just accept my posts as gospel.

[Cohiba]

well i heard on the grape vine that they had a B grade side but only about 8 A graders, which makes me wonder why they didnt pull the B's........strange call.

Surely the duty of any Club would be to first field an A Grade side regardless whether they are B. C or D grade players.

Is there a regulation regarding the priority of fielding sides for a Cub?

[Footy Chick]

I was under the impression that lowest grade forfeits first and then moves up.

You can't forfeit C's and field a D grade although I seem to recall an incident with Mudbery a few years back.

Rules could've changed since then though.

[Senor Moto Gadili]

Percentage is calculated as a ratio - For / For + Against *100

If Ingle Farm beat Angle Vale 300-100, a 200 point win, their percentage will go from 73.2 to 73.5. If they cop the forfeit, their percentage will go to 73.9.

In almost all but the most extreme of cases, which I wouldn't have ruled out with those two sides playing, you're better off, percentage wise, getting the forfeit score - it's designed that way!

Given the advantage they will get by not playing I reckon Ingle Farm should be more than happy to get the 60-0 percentage.

Percentage will be 73.05

No offence but i dont think you have a good understanding of percentage. As i mentioned earlier, it's not so much the margin that makes the difference, it's the points conceded.

For instance if Ingle Farm won same score as last week WC v AV (142-4), percentage would jump to 74.15%

Even using Flinders Pk v Angle Vale result (101-14) percentage would increase to 73.10%

But yes I think as disappointed as several blokes would be about not playing, percentage aside there is far more positives to be taken out of this given Ingle Farm have a tough month of football coming up after next week, and some sore bodies could use a week extra to recover. Playing Angle Vale (apart from %) was really a nothing to gain game for all involved - included Angle Vale

If you applied the same rationale to the Ingle Farm A-Grade i.e. they beat Angle Vale by the same score West Croydon beat them by, then Ingle Farm's percentage would have gone to 77.12%. The forfeit takes their perecentage to 74.00%. They will sacrifice percentage as a result of being denied a game. In the longer term, maybe the week's rest will offset that.

[Bombers4EVA]

LM was the best B Grade umpire I've seen

Naw shucks, cheers Ash. You summed it well when we spoke last, umpire how you play the game.

What happens then if you play like shit?? Does that mean you umpire like shit??

You would know more about that than LM and myself!

What you trying to imply Ash??

[Arch44]

Congrats Carey
Maybe one day Phoebe Rose will meet Jethro Henry

A match made in heaven........

West Croydon and Central United! God help us

maybe it's best it doesn't happen

Fitzroy & NEK is classier

I haven't played against NEK yet so still to be determined

[morell]

Yeah exactly Senor, what is better, the possibility of an extra 3% or a week off.

I know what I would prefer.

[beeroclock]

Yeah exactly Senor, what is better, the possibility of an extra 3% or a week off.

I know what I would prefer.

3% and a week off all rolled into one.
Poor form by AV.

[Senor Moto Gadili]

Yeah exactly Senor, what is better, the possibility of an extra 3% or a week off.

I know what I would prefer.

Yeah, freshen up before we play Mitchell Park next week.