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Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Maybe I missed Matthews' more productive years but I don't hold him in the same regard as the other two listed there, perhaps I just didn't like him.
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Lightning McQueen wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Maybe I missed Matthews' more productive years but I don't hold him in the same regard as the other two listed there, perhaps I just didn't like him.

i can't comment on mathews either...
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woodublieve12 wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Lockett better than carey imo...

If Carey had a stay at home forward role I reckon he'd have the goal kicking record. Lockett harder to man up on, Carey more versatile.

Carey could go and help out down back whereas Plugger would stop at half forward and ask for directions.
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Lightning McQueen wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Lockett better than carey imo...

If Carey had a stay at home forward role I reckon he'd have the goal kicking record. Lockett harder to man up on, Carey more versatile.

Carey could go and help out down back whereas Plugger would stop at half forward and ask for directions.

to hold the goal kicking record when he played most of his career at one of the worst sides going around is a tremendous effort...

if plug had the players around him like carey did add some more goals to that tally...

Carey is one of the greats, i just think plug is better. just my opinion though
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Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.


But they never won two.
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woodublieve12 wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Lockett better than carey imo...

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Lightning McQueen wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Maybe I missed Matthews' more productive years but I don't hold him in the same regard as the other two listed there, perhaps I just didn't like him.


A 5'8" centre man who played 332 games and kicked 915 goals.

Think Simon Black on ball possessions, but with 900 goals. Think Mathew Lloyd goal kicking, but while playing on ball all his career.

Leigh Mathews is, IMO, the greatest to play the game. There was more spectacular, no doubt. There was more brilliant, no doubt. I think this bloke stands head and shoulders (below - lol) above all others.

Behind him the likes of Ablett (x2), Lockett, Dunstall, Carey et al.
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woodublieve12 wrote:to hold the goal kicking record when he played most of his career at one of the worst sides going around is a tremendous effort...

if plug had the players around him like carey did add some more goals to that tally...

Carey is one of the greats, i just think plug is better. just my opinion though

Does that make it harder or easier by having less scoring options?
I know that Stephen Nichols, Malcolm Blight, Rick Davies and John Roberts used to always be around the mark in the Ken Farmer medal while playing for lower sides.
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Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Maybe I missed Matthews' more productive years but I don't hold him in the same regard as the other two listed there, perhaps I just didn't like him.


A 5'8" centre man who played 332 games and kicked 915 goals.

Think Simon Black on ball possessions, but with 900 goals. Think Mathew Lloyd goal kicking, but while playing on ball all his career.

Leigh Mathews is, IMO, the greatest to play the game. There was more spectacular, no doubt. There was more brilliant, no doubt. I think this bloke stands head and shoulders (below - lol) above all others.

Behind him the likes of Ablett (x2), Lockett, Dunstall, Carey et al.


He sat in the forward pocket for quite some time towards the end of his career in arguably the most dominant side for any given decade.

Having said that, I never really liked the guy after the Barrie Robran incident, I did grow to like him though during his time at Brisbane.
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So, he was a forward pocket who kicked over 900 goals. ;)
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Booney wrote:So, he was a forward pocket who kicked over 900 goals. ;)

With a dirty mo.
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Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:So, he was a forward pocket who kicked over 900 goals. ;)

With a dirty mo.


The truth had to come out as to why you didn't like him eventually. :lol:
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Gary Ablett snr for mine with Malcolm Blight 2nd. (That's not over-rated players, my top 2 rated)
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Spargo wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Lockett better than carey imo...

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hardly a surprise a north melbourne supporter would give that response :)
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RoosterMan wrote:One does not win two Brownlow Medals and two premierships if they are overrated.

Considering only 13 players in the history of the VFL/AFL have achieved the feat, it puts him up there with the all time greats of the game.


Yeah, lets base our judgements of players on what the maggots think of their game :roll:
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Spargo wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Lockett better than carey imo...

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Lockett was great. Carey and Snr are the best I've seen in my opinion.
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FWIW Goodes is no where near overrated. One of my personal favourites in his prime. Was an absolute gun!
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It is a disgrace to the game that travis cloke is on sooooooo much money and can barely get 4 kicks a game consistently
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woodublieve12 wrote:
Spargo wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Spargo wrote:Carey, Matthews, Ablett Snr never won Brownlows and they're clearly the best 3 our games ever seen.
Wynd, Liberatore & Woewodin however, all won one.

Lockett better than carey imo...

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hardly a surprise a north melbourne supporter would give that response :)


Hardly a surprise a swans supporter would think Lockett is above Carey
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