SANFL 2025

[heater31]

I think the Crows would LOVE to absorb/align with West,
no more bickering about NAITS, West would become The Crows reserves,
West would sell Richmond (If they own it) & inject the money into the Crows new facilities,
West to keep their identity & become very strong.

Think the West Torrens council own the lot???

[Booney]

I suspect that some time down the track, the SANFL will seperate from the AFL and become a league running with much less expense/salary cap and/or mainly an U18 type feeder competition to the AFL.

Yeah, right. While there's corporates at SANFL HQ with desires to hold higher offices the SANFL will be the AFL's play thing.

Booney is correct, no chance AFL and SANFL "separating" they want us in bed as much as we need to be sweet with them, how else can they control the SANFL when their two franchises come calling because the SANFL isn't playing "nice"

I wasn't clear - I meant more so the AFL Reserves sides will leave. The SANFL will always be at the beck and call of the AFL. We saw how desperate the SANFL were to keep the Crows and Port in the SANFL competition last year and Port have no issue indicating their desire to split from the SANFL - even after the concessions. Maybe the SANFL were buying time?

Is this the first year the money from West Lakes has stopped filtering through to the clubs? As Wolf Pack says, there isn't enough revenue coming in. I'm sure Westies wouldn't be alone in the struggle - even if in a worse position at the moment.

That's what Koch asked, remember?

[gazzamagoo]

I think the Crows would LOVE to absorb/align with West,
no more bickering about NAITS, West would become The Crows reserves,
West would sell Richmond (If they own it) & inject the money into the Crows new facilities,
West to keep their identity & become very strong.

9 team comp. SANFuL says No.

P**s Port off, happy days.

[Brodlach]

I know a bit more about what’s going on than many so let’s just calm down a little bit.

I wasn’t going to comment but I wanted to support my club.

I’ll only say one thing, don’t do the work you don’t always get to stay. They need to quickly sort out some issues and look after a couple that are already there. The constant negativity by some “supporters” doesn’t help, driving their own agenda and then people jumping on the bandwagon.

Having the extra exposure to South Road in the future will be a benefit but there is a lot of work to be done.

[Aerie]

I think the Crows would LOVE to absorb/align with West,
no more bickering about NAITS, West would become The Crows reserves,
West would sell Richmond (If they own it) & inject the money into the Crows new facilities,
West to keep their identity & become very strong.

Think the West Torrens council own the lot???

I'm not sure the age of this article, but it indicates a private group of West supporters assisted in the club keeping the club rooms. There was an article in The Advertiser in 2014 that West were thinking of selling their club rooms.

https://westadelaidefc.com.au/inside-we ... %20parties

The West Torrens council would own the rest I imagine. Same as Thebarton Oval. When WWT merged, West Torrens sold the club rooms at Thebarton to inject into the WWTFC. One of the main reasons the club went to Woodville, as the Woodville clubrooms were owned by the council.

[Booney]

I think the Crows would LOVE to absorb/align with West,
no more bickering about NAITS, West would become The Crows reserves,
West would sell Richmond (If they own it) & inject the money into the Crows new facilities,
West to keep their identity & become very strong.

9 team comp. SANFuL says No.

P**s Port off, happy days.

Oh, Eric, you know the SANFuL want us regardless of how many sits ins you do.

[am Bays]

I wasn't clear - I meant more so the AFL Reserves sides will leave. The SANFL will always be at the beck and call of the AFL. We saw how desperate the SANFL were to keep the Crows and Port in the SANFL competition last year and Port have no issue indicating their desire to split from the SANFL - even after the concessions. Maybe the SANFL were buying time?

Mate the AFL dont want a reserves competition, they've got to find money for an AFL club in Tassie - will take similar money to other expansion clubs, expand the AFLW competition and fund development programs. A reserves competition is low on their list of priorities. Far cheaper for the AFL to buy off the SANFL to get the concessions our two VFL franchises want than fund a reserves comp.

A 20th AFL club is more likely and than a reserves comp and based on current budgets that's $30 Mill from AFL coffers a year based on what they spend on the Gold Coast and GWS.

The two franchises dont want to spend the $$$ to join the VFL, they want the AFL to do it but the AFL have shown their hand saying it's far cheaper for us to give SANFL $$$ despite the AFL supporting some of the existing VFL teams in travel. The AFL has never been about transparency, equity and fairness...

Is this the first year the money from West Lakes has stopped filtering through to the clubs? As Wolf Pack says, there isn't enough revenue coming in. I'm sure Westies wouldn't be alone in the struggle - even if in a worse position at the moment.

Yep after 10 years that money has cease, SANFL clubs got their last distribution in 2023 I understand happy to be corrected.

[Booney]

In 10 years the $71m is gone?

[dedja]

In 10 years the $71m is gone?

Half a century on Earth without a brain … respect.

[Booney]

That's why you're on the banned list dickhead.

[dedja]

That's why you're on the banned list dickhead.

I have feelings too you know

Its not that hard to understand what the SANFL used the proceeds of the sale of Footy Park for if you take the blinkers off.

[am Bays]

In 10 years the $71m is gone?

$45 Mill went to paying off the debt the SANFL accrued in propping up the AFL franchises you know like changes to footy park from 1997-2012

The remaining $$$ has gone to eight SANFL footy clubs

But you already knew that

[dedja]

I know a bit more about what’s going on than many so let’s just calm down a little bit.

I wasn’t going to comment but I wanted to support my club.

I’ll only say one thing, don’t do the work you don’t always get to stay. They need to quickly sort out some issues and look after a couple that are already there. The constant negativity by some “supporters” doesn’t help, driving their own agenda and then people jumping on the bandwagon.

Having the extra exposure to South Road in the future will be a benefit but there is a lot of work to be done.

Well said.

It wasn’t that long ago that Sturt nearly closed their doors, but they managed to get through the worst of it by organising themselves really well and bringing in the right people.

Other clubs have had their struggles too but have managed. Handouts and lifeline payments can only do so much, clubs have to find a way to be sustainable.

It’s not easy but it can be done.

[Spargo]

I know a bit more about what’s going on than many so let’s just calm down a little bit.

I wasn’t going to comment but I wanted to support my club.

I’ll only say one thing, don’t do the work you don’t always get to stay. They need to quickly sort out some issues and look after a couple that are already there. The constant negativity by some “supporters” doesn’t help, driving their own agenda and then people jumping on the bandwagon.

Having the extra exposure to South Road in the future will be a benefit but there is a lot of work to be done.

Well said.

It wasn’t that long ago that Sturt nearly closed their doors, but they managed to get through the worst of it by organising themselves really well and bringing in the right people.

Other clubs have had their struggles too but have managed. Handouts and lifeline payments can only do so much, clubs have to find a way to be sustainable.

It’s not easy but it can be done.

Sturt have always had a big supporter base & good membership no’s, Glenelg too were in a world of pain not long ago, but again, strong supporter base. Westies seem to have an ageing & ever dwindling following - this is near impossible to turn around.

[Brodlach]

Agree with the aging supporter base. The area is starting to become more family friendly rather than the older population it has been but winning solves a bit. Club has, in my 50 years of supporting, always eaten itself with factions from within . Needs to stop.

Needed to become more active with their local junior clubs which I believe is happening now.

[Booney]

In 10 years the $71m is gone?

$45 Mill went to paying off the debt the SANFL accrued in propping up the AFL franchises you know like changes to footy park from 1997-2012

The remaining $$$ has gone to eight SANFL footy clubs

But you already knew that

So $71m-$45m ( I can't find anywhere that states the debt was ever that high ) even with this half century old mush is $26m over 10 years and given it was drip fed to SANFuL clubs was the balance not invested to gain a return?

After the first distribution was there not say $22-24m left gaining interest? Even at a modest return there would be significant interest earnt. Enough almost to cover another years distribution ( basing it on 8 clubs getting the same nominal amount each year ) and so on and so on.

Koch asked where the future fund went and it got swept under the carpet.

[Booney]

Agree with the aging supporter base. The area is starting to become more family friendly rather than the older population it has been but winning solves a bit. Club has, in my 50 years of supporting, always eaten itself with factions from within . Needs to stop.

Needed to become more active with their local junior clubs which I believe is happening now.

Living in the next street for 10 years I knew blokes who wouldn't talk to each other sitting at the bar because one backed so and so and the other backed someone else.

As for local clubs it's all resources mate, if the club is struggling at the top end nothing would be trickling down the line to support those programs.

The hole seems to be getting deeper, sadly.

[Brodlach]

I’m told each club has a full time junior coordinator, the one they have now works hard and perhaps the previous one wasn’t quite as hard working. It’s about building relationships and being organized

[Booney]

I’m told each club has a full time junior coordinator, the one they have now works hard and perhaps the previous one wasn’t quite as hard working. It’s about building relationships and being organized

Just looking at the map you're not blessed with particularly fertile football grounds, bar the Riverland.

Port Road / South Road to Port Road / Sturt Road and surrounds isn't a particularly fertile area rich with top amateur clubs and the Coorong / Mallee areas seem to be more and more about clubs merging than growing.

That must play a role.

[Brodlach]

Guaranteed

There are some very good local clubs though like Goodwood, Plymton, Edwardstown and PHOS (if they are in the zone)