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Did the AFL drug him to move the media cycle on from the tribunal fiasco?

I'd vote no, but I wouldn't put it past them either...
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You’d be on the gear if you played for Carlton too
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It was noted early in the game, however, that Hollands may be a concern and the longer the game went, the more clear it became to Blues staff that he wasn’t fit to continue.
Hollands played just nine minutes in the last quarter of a tight loss.
Early in the game it was noted that he may be a concern, but was kept in the game until 9 mins into the last.

Yeah, this is a horrendous look for Carlton...
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You can blame the club or Voss or whoever……..
But at what point does the player take responsibility

Smoke, fire and all that !
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amber_fluid wrote:You can blame the club or Voss or whoever……..
But at what point does the player take responsibility

Smoke, fire and all that !
In his state? None. That's on those around him.
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Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:You can blame the club or Voss or whoever……..
But at what point does the player take responsibility

Smoke, fire and all that !
In his state? None. That's on those around him.
If mental health I agree
If history is repeating itself that’s on the player too
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Just seen footage of him lining up for goals pre-match.............fully cooked!
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amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:You can blame the club or Voss or whoever……..
But at what point does the player take responsibility

Smoke, fire and all that !
In his state? None. That's on those around him.
If mental health I agree
If history is repeating itself that’s on the player too
I was referring to the article, it says it was a mental health episode.

Carlton staff would have an excellent idea of his mental state, probably as good as his parents at this point in his life as he'd spend 20+ hours a week with these people.

At the first sign of concern, he should have been taken from the field and into the rooms for a welfare check.
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wenchbarwer wrote:
Have a read about Gavin Crosisca, he was on the gear for much of his career and no-one had any idea
Having a line of something that pepps you up is a different kettle of fish than whatever he took.

I tried to be sympathic and have his back but I'm really struggling now I've seen some more footage,

I'm probably more on Carlton's back though that no one else detected it.

I grew up and played in the Bronx, cones or a line of wizz were pretty rife before a game but if we seen someone floating on some other shit there is no way in the world they'd be playing...........seen it a few times. Had one dude at training taking out his team mates while off his tits, much loved and respected player too, it was hard having to pin him down and watch him not be himself waiting for the authorities arrived. Commited suicide not long after.
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wenchbarwer wrote: I was referring to the article, it says it was a mental health episode.

Carlton staff would have an excellent idea of his mental state, probably as good as his parents at this point in his life as he'd spend 20+ hours a week with these people.

At the first sign of concern, he should have been taken from the field and into the rooms for a welfare check.
Check out the 2nd bit of footage on this page.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/hes-s ... 0a5506dbb3
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They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.

Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
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amber_fluid wrote:You’d be on the gear if you played for Carlton too
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Lightning McQueen wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote: I was referring to the article, it says it was a mental health episode.

Carlton staff would have an excellent idea of his mental state, probably as good as his parents at this point in his life as he'd spend 20+ hours a week with these people.

At the first sign of concern, he should have been taken from the field and into the rooms for a welfare check.
Check out the 2nd bit of footage on this page.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/hes-s ... 0a5506dbb3
That shot at goal in the warm up is pretty disturbing.
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whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote: I was referring to the article, it says it was a mental health episode.

Carlton staff would have an excellent idea of his mental state, probably as good as his parents at this point in his life as he'd spend 20+ hours a week with these people.

At the first sign of concern, he should have been taken from the field and into the rooms for a welfare check.
Check out the 2nd bit of footage on this page.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/hes-s ... 0a5506dbb3
That shot at goal in the warm up is pretty disturbing.
That's the straw for me, if that didn't ring an alarm bell for anyone he may as well have been glowing like Monty Burns after his radiation treatment.

This is on the footy club in my opinion.
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wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.

Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL

How would it help him?
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amber_fluid wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.

Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL

How would it help him?
If it's mental health, it clears up all the bullshit, yeah?
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amber_fluid wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.

Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL

How would it help him?
It would help others to help him.
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wenchbarwer wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.

Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL

How would it help him?
If it's mental health, it clears up all the bullshit, yeah?
Maybe that’s why they didn’t do it
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Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:They're calling it a mental health episode, so I'm happy to run with that. I've seen people react in very manic fashion with mental health, so it tracks for me.

Surely he was spot tested after the game, for his own safety. If he's proven to be on something, well, that's a different story altogether.
What would spot testing do?
Other than get him and the club in trouble with the AFL

How would it help him?
It would help others to help him.
They’ve tried
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