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[Media Park]

so the same could be said if an umpire makes a decision during a game and the reciever of the kick says" geez thats a bit stiff mate, thats not a free kick.here umpire just ball it up" haha what a joke.Rules are rules fullstop,theres only one thing worse than a cocky winner and thats a sore loser.

What he ^^ said...

[200 Killer Wasps]

The 2009 Eastern Eyre grand final had a count and Kimba were penalised for having an extra player on the ground. However mainly through the insistance of the Cowell captain, Kimba did not have their score wiped.

Ironically the Cowell captain in question played for Western Zone in last weekends match against Southern.

So you are saying that the opposition has the right to decide if they wipe the score? Is that correct

No they shouldn't have.

The game was stopped for about 40 mins while the umpires, league delegates and both clubs worked out what to do. Kimba conceded they were guilty, while Cowell just wanted a level playing field. In the end Cowell received a free inside 50, won the game and were happy with that. I'm sure if Cowell had lost the game there would have been further action taken.

[Sonya Belly]

in the game your talking about MP i was captain.There was confusion between runner and coach,with the runner approaching me instead of the opposition bench.The complaint being made we went on to win.I know as a player it was a hollow feeling as bostons could of gone on and won the game and probaly should of.Deno as coach after the game also felt it wasnt the way the game should of gone.

[Media Park]

in the game your talking about MP i was captain.There was confusion between runner and coach,with the runner approaching me instead of the opposition bench.The complaint being made we went on to win.I know as a player it was a hollow feeling as bostons could of gone on and won the game and probaly should of.Deno as coach after the game also felt it wasnt the way the game should of gone.

Didn't bother me... "Rules are rules..." We can't choose which one's to follow...

I'll always remember it though, cos I was the "extra guy!"

[overloaded]

in the game your talking about MP i was captain.There was confusion between runner and coach,with the runner approaching me instead of the opposition bench.The complaint being made we went on to win.I know as a player it was a hollow feeling as bostons could of gone on and won the game and probaly should of.Deno as coach after the game also felt it wasnt the way the game should of gone.

Didn't bother me... "Rules are rules..." We can't choose which one's to follow...

I'll always remember it though, cos I was the "extra guy!"[/quote]

didnt you think to look at how many were on the bench?

If 'rules are rules' then how come the Cowell decision was made?

I think some people and clubs have more sportsmenship than others. They are realists and know the wipe the score penalty is to severe and it is what no one wants

[Media Park]

in our game OL, someone was sent off with what we thought was the blood rule- he actually got yellow carded...

[heater31]

in our game OL, someone was sent off with what we thought was the blood rule- he actually got yellow carded...

still 18 on the field then but technically only supposed to be 17 right?

If 'rules are rules' then how come the Cowell decision was made?

I think some people and clubs have more sportsmenship than others. They are realists and know the wipe the score penalty is to severe and it is what no one wants

The Eastern Eyre decision took 40 minutes to sort out yet they agreed on something outside the rules. If Kimba got up and won I don't think Cowell would really have a leg to stand on if they wanted to take it further after the match.

Also by not following the rules of the game by having the correct amount of players on the field is unsportsman like as well as demanding the score be wiped.


It boils down to that you broke the rules of the game and got caught. Fair enough if you realise your mistake and correct it before the opposition finds out then play on.

Believe me this 19 men thing happened in SANFL football 2 weeks ago. Admittedly it was the reserves and it had no bearing on the result of the game as the 'offending' club already too far behind to win and the extra player was on on the field for 1 minute of clock time. The Interchange Steward knew exactly what was going on as the Team Manager openly told him of the error. Yet did nothing as no count was called by the opposition.

[Media Park]

in our game OL, someone was sent off with what we thought was the blood rule- he actually got yellow carded...

still 18 on the field then but technically only supposed to be 17 right?

yep

[djd]

i heard that the pedler boys were aware of an extra player and called for a count, which is their right. i do wonder, however if in the game we (cougars) played againest ramblers earlier this season in the second quarter when ramblers had made a "mistake" and had an extra player on the ground if they would have been happy if we did the same. i was told afterwards by rambler players and supportors we had acted in the "spirit" of the game. not sure we will next time!

[200 Killer Wasps]

If you have more players on the ground than you are supposed to then you are not playing in the spirit of the game - you are cheating.

[Media Park]

If you have more players on the ground than you are supposed to then you are not playing in the spirit of the game - you are cheating.

I don't know if cheating is the right way to put it (unless you do it on purpose).

[djd]

If you have more players on the ground than you are supposed to then you are not playing in the spirit of the game - you are cheating.

I don't know if cheating is the right way to put it (unless you do it on purpose).

i our instance, it wasn't cheating. at quarter time their was a fight and a player from each side were sent off. the rambler assist and coach obviously failed to realize this and put 18 instead of 17 back on the ground. as we then on the bench started to realize they had an extra (we had just kicked a goal) all the players also started to know there was an extra. the rambler assist coach had no idea he was doing anything wrong. we informed him (in my nicest language!) that he needed 3 on the pine. but i am still thinking now after the weekend, what if the roles were reversed. although in saying all that the scoreline at the time was around ram 2.5 to us 1.2 or something, so really play on!

[200 Killer Wasps]

Maybe cheating is a bit harsh, but definitely an unfair advantage.

This has been a law for decades in Australian football where every participant knew the ramifications of breaking this rule. The fact that high interchange rotations in the recent era of football make it easier for mistakes to made should be seen as a reason not an excuse.

I am sure the Albions Football Club still regret losing the 1952 Quorn Football Association grand final for having 19 on the field. They were in an unassailable position well into the last quarter, they had a player knocked out and replaced by the 19th man. The player knocked out returned to the field disorientated but keen to resume his place in a team that was about to win a premiership. The Imperials captain called for a count and the Albions had their score wiped from the board. The Albions captain then shook hands with the Imperials captain and led his team from the field, deeply regretting what happened but accepting the result.

[Ken Whelan Fan]

Tasmans 1-39
mallees 40+
waybacks 40+
Had a look at the PLFL proposal for restructuring the league, some very good ideas with the Executive Committee
overseeing football operations. Hopefully it will get over the line.

[overloaded]

What are some of the ideas Ken? anymore night football planned next year

Who is on the coexec comitee?

I dont think anyone plans to have 19 on the field so calling it cheating is wrong. Cheating is a planned act isn't it? You would be a complete dill to think you could get away with it for more than a centre bounce or two, and the penalty is definatly not worth the risk is it>
I have seen coaches joke about it and even in some junior grades let an extra man on the field if they are that far behind late in a game it doesnt matter, just to let the kid have a run.

The wipe score rule is far too harsh...... as by the next centre bounce if the coaching staff cant work out that the opposition have an extra man on the field then it is their own fault. They should be looking around at match-ups and spare players. So generally it only can cost a goal or two max (being very generous), so a 5 goal penalty is sufficient enough to cover the mistake.

[Ken Whelan Fan]

The Exec will be made up of independent members not club delegates so that they will work for the betterment
of the game not for individual club interests.
Also to try and make the league a viable and profitable entity so that there will be
some money to assist with future projects.
eg if the committee decides that Friday night football is more profitable than say a Saturday game
or maybe a Sunday game at Wangary is the go then that is what will happen. bearing in mind
that this will be made only if it helps footy ingeneral.
There will probably be a Chief Ex Officer or dierctor of Football operations to do the day to day work
probably part time. People on the Comm. will probabaly have some business and finance/ accounting experience.
A Tribunal will operate under the umbrella but will have no football club alligances.
There is a lot more and I hope what I have said is correct. but the gist of it is that the PLFL
will be run more
like a business, actively seeking sponsorship and promotion. From what I have seen I congratulate Tokers and the PLFL
for their foresight.

[overloaded]

Great to hear Ken, looks like a step in the right direction.

What are the exec comitees thoughts on paying out all the gatemoney on Security gaurds and then leaving nothing to pay the umpires and therefore running at a loss ?

[Ken Whelan Fan]

Clearly not an affordable option at $45 per hour per person from 8.00am to 5.00pm
two guys at each game equates to $2400 per day.
The league will select random games to have security at.

[eags]

Waybacks 40+
Mallees 40+
Tasmans 40+

[bluestheboy]

Any one had a recent look at the MP clearance page on Sporting Pulse???
4 very handy footballers CLEARED to AFL Cairns.....

and just heard of another one of their leaders looking to head West...

Everyone wants to be a rooster now!!!!