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Postby Barto » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:46 pm

Terrible idea. The league cant finance it.

What a massive fall Tasmanian footy has when they need to enter a composite team in another state's league. The VFL raped the TFL until it was dead.
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Postby Pseudo » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:07 pm

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wal65 wrote:Thats if you go through Melbourne. Cant fly to Hobart from Adelaide with Jetstar. You have to change airports in Melbourne too.
Stupid Jetstar!!!!!


Its Stupid QANTAS allround no direct flights at all from Adelaide all via Melbourne/Sydney (& Brisbane/Perth/Darwin probably too :wink: )


On the plus side, it allows us QANTAS club members a chance to sink a bit more free grog 8)
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Postby johntheclaret » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:11 am

Asking, because I don't really know, would a NT team be stronge enough to compete in the SANFL? Pointless if not, no one wants to see the same team taking the wooden spoon year after year.

Does the SANFL not already draw a lot of players from the NT? If so would having a NT team in the SANFL not just dilute the players available to the current teams, weakening the league as a whole?
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Postby rod_rooster » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:52 am

jtc, an NT side would definitely be strong enough to compete. They would improve rapidly and yes it may stop a few players coming down from the NT but it would also help expose many other players who otherwise might never have made the move into SANFL footy. It could be a real positive for footy in general not just the SANFL.
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Postby - » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:54 am

What a pity woodville and torrens merged.
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Postby Hondo » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:05 am

- wrote:What a pity woodville and torrens merged.


Maybe, but geographically you could almost walk between Thebarton and Woodville ovals .... (and then a short hike down to Richmond oval). I hope the remaining 9 SANFL clubs can sort themselves out financially to make the comp strong enough that we can find a 10th team from Adelaide rather than interstate.

I heard the interview with the CEO of AFL Tasmania on the radio and, honestly, the SANFL idea is a just that ... an idea. It's coming out of the AFL's review of 'second-tier' footy in Australia and they are naturally concerned about the (further) impact on Tassie footy if their team is dropped from the VFL. I almost got the impression he was floating the idea as a threat to the AFL as he admitted that no discussions with the SANFL have taken place.

After listening to the interview it was obvious their strong preference was a presence in Victoria and I was left with the thought of how great it would be to one day see a Tasmanian team in the AFL. It would be nice to see a traditional football state rewarded for years of pillaging by the AFL. That dream may be at least 10 years off but one day hopefully ....
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Postby Wedgie » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:18 pm

Ive heard from a couple of sources that its more likely than not to happen now. (99% likely was even mooted from one source!:shock: )
Without trying to offend rednandblack I'd be interested if anything was heard from the other end down in Tassie over the weekend?

Talk is of an 18 round minor round, 9 home matches, 9 away matches.
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Postby spell_check » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:23 pm

Wedgie wrote:Ive heard from a couple of sources that its more likely than not to happen now. (99% likely was even mooted from one source!:shock: )
Without trying to offend rednandblack I'd be interested if anything was heard from the other end down in Tassie over the weekend?

Talk is of an 18 round minor round, 9 home matches, 9 away matches.


That's what I was afraid of happening if a 10th team came in. If so, that can piss off.
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Postby Wedgie » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:26 pm

spell_check wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Ive heard from a couple of sources that its more likely than not to happen now. (99% likely was even mooted from one source!:shock: )
Without trying to offend rednandblack I'd be interested if anything was heard from the other end down in Tassie over the weekend?

Talk is of an 18 round minor round, 9 home matches, 9 away matches.


That's what I was afraid of happening if a 10th team came in. If so, that can piss off.

Why, its only 2 less games than now and a much fairer draw. :?
With the extra weeks we could implement a decent preseason comp too.
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Postby spell_check » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:31 pm

Wedgie wrote:
spell_check wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Ive heard from a couple of sources that its more likely than not to happen now. (99% likely was even mooted from one source!:shock: )
Without trying to offend rednandblack I'd be interested if anything was heard from the other end down in Tassie over the weekend?

Talk is of an 18 round minor round, 9 home matches, 9 away matches.


That's what I was afraid of happening if a 10th team came in. If so, that can piss off.

Why, its only 2 less games than now and a much fairer draw. :?
With the extra weeks we could implement a decent preseason comp too.


Yeah, and don't forget that not everyone can afford to go to Tasmania - another game missed. Then, when would the season start with 18 rounds? May? I don't know why it really matters if it is 22 rounds like it used to be; teams shouldn't have to rely on an "equitable draw" just to make the finals or whatever milestone they are after.

Having said all this, I doubt that a 10th team will be added if all anyway, let alone a proper preseason comp.
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Postby Wedgie » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:40 pm

spell_check wrote:Yeah, and don't forget that not everyone can afford to go to Tasmania - another game missed. Then, when would the season start with 18 rounds? May? I don't know why it really matters if it is 22 rounds like it used to be; teams shouldn't have to rely on an "equitable draw" just to make the finals or whatever milestone they are after.

Having said all this, I doubt that a 10th team will be added if all anyway, let alone a proper preseason comp.


Don't be doubtful mate, as I said, its more than likely to happen.

Going on this year's calender it could be something like this:

Pre Season Comp Mar 3, Mar 10, Mar 17, Mar 25 with final on Mar 31.
Easter Break - no games
Normal Comp
Rd 1 14/4
Rd 2 21/4
Rd 3 28/4
Rd 4 5/5
Rd 5 12/5
Rd 6 19/5
Rd 7 26/5
Rd 8 2/6
State Game v WAFL 9/6
Rd 9 16/6
Rd 10 23/6
Rd 11 30/6
Rd 12 7/7
State Game v VFL 14/7
Rd 13 21/7
Rd 14 28/7
Rd 15 4/8
Rd 16 11/8
Rd 17 18/8
Rd 18 25/8
First week of finals 1/9
Second week of finals 8/9
Prelim 15/9
GF 22/9
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Postby redandblack » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:05 pm

spell_check wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Ive heard from a couple of sources that its more likely than not to happen now. (99% likely was even mooted from one source!:shock: )
Without trying to offend rednandblack I'd be interested if anything was heard from the other end down in Tassie over the weekend?

Talk is of an 18 round minor round, 9 home matches, 9 away matches.


That's what I was afraid of happening if a 10th team came in. If so, that can piss off.


Wedgie can regularly offend me without trying :D
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Postby Royals16 » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:16 pm

I dont think an NT team would be that competitive in the SANFL, I watch a fair bit of NTFL and as one coach (Michael McLean) commented yesterday prior to a finals game, you just dont know who will turn up to play, their commitment is questionable. Some sides have really struggled to field a side week in week out, reserve grade sides have forfeited due to lack of numbers plus joining the SANFL would kill local footy.
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Postby spell_check » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:05 pm

Wedgie wrote:
spell_check wrote:Yeah, and don't forget that not everyone can afford to go to Tasmania - another game missed. Then, when would the season start with 18 rounds? May? I don't know why it really matters if it is 22 rounds like it used to be; teams shouldn't have to rely on an "equitable draw" just to make the finals or whatever milestone they are after.

Having said all this, I doubt that a 10th team will be added if all anyway, let alone a proper preseason comp.


Don't be doubtful mate, as I said, its more than likely to happen.

Going on this year's calender it could be something like this:

Pre Season Comp Mar 3, Mar 10, Mar 17, Mar 25 with final on Mar 31.
Easter Break - no games
Normal Comp
Rd 1 14/4
Rd 2 21/4
Rd 3 28/4
Rd 4 5/5
Rd 5 12/5
Rd 6 19/5
Rd 7 26/5
Rd 8 2/6
State Game v WAFL 9/6
Rd 9 16/6
Rd 10 23/6
Rd 11 30/6
Rd 12 7/7
State Game v VFL 14/7
Rd 13 21/7
Rd 14 28/7
Rd 15 4/8
Rd 16 11/8
Rd 17 18/8
Rd 18 25/8
First week of finals 1/9
Second week of finals 8/9
Prelim 15/9
GF 22/9


Starting the season proper two weeks after the AFL and finishing one week earlier? Two big free kicks there.
I can't really see two State matches in a year being played.
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Postby Wedgie » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:08 pm

spell_check wrote:Starting the season proper two weeks after the AFL and finishing one week earlier? Two big free kicks there.
I can't really see two State matches in a year being played.

Fair enough about the state matches but starting the season after Easter and finishing the week before the AFL GF have been too positives asked for by a few clubs I think.
Im actually with you and would prefer the 22 rounds with the 10 teams, Id rather have more footy than a more even comp.
And I also prefer our GF the week after the AFL GF too.
Perhaps we should get 12 teams in, 22 rounds, all teams play each others twice! :)
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Postby am Bays » Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:22 pm

The NT team was more likely than unlikely in 1999....according to the then SANFL club GM I was talking to back then....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby Barto » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:58 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:The NT team was more likely than unlikely in 1999....according to the then SANFL club GM I was talking to back then....


It was dead and buried by 2003. Was talking to John Halbert after the state game at Freo Oval and they went up there to host a cocktail party for NTFL officials and no one showed up.
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Postby Sojourner » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:18 pm

Barto wrote:Terrible idea. The league cant finance it.

What a massive fall Tasmanian footy has when they need to enter a composite team in another state's league. The VFL raped the TFL until it was dead.


The 9 SANFL clubs all own a share in Football Park and only get to play there if they make the Grand Final, the excuse being the revenue generated for the clubs by the venue. It would seem to me then that the SANFL has plenty of cash at its disposal to organise this.

The Tasmanian Government have stated several times that they will be the garantor for an AFL licence to go to Tassie, so I am sure they would back this scheme if they thought it would be in the best interests for Tassie footy.

The problem the Mariners have is that they are treated as a poor cousin VFL team, players are allocated to them that would have to be flown to Tassie for training, that does not make for a consistant team. The Mariners would probably do better in the SANFL than the VFL as a result.

What a great excuse to go to Tassie once a year!
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Postby am Bays » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:01 am

Barto wrote:
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:The NT team was more likely than unlikely in 1999....according to the then SANFL club GM I was talking to back then....


It was dead and buried by 2003. Was talking to John Halbert after the state game at Freo Oval and they went up there to host a cocktail party for NTFL officials and no one showed up.


That's what i mean, the NT side was once seen as more likely than unlikely, 4 years later it was dead. I won't be holding my breath waiting for any announcement on a Tasmanian side in the SANFL.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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