HFL Division 2 (Country)

[The Sorce]

Seem to be talking Scott Masden up to be a super coach from what I seen from the year several senior players had more control of the team! To be honest he seem to be just finishing off Bawdens 4 years! Highly doubt any players will follow if he coaches in the hills elsewhere, didn't bring any players with him and would think you would leave a club after just winning a premiership if rumors on the new coach are true I can only see Echunga getting stronger, which I think a lot clubs should be worried about!

[Kickittometoo]

I notice in the Courier that Callington are seeking applications from coaches "in all grades". Since they only had under 13's and Seniors this year, and both were coached by Shane Mitchell, what has happened this time? Where has the supercoach gone? Club 'officials' assured us he was in it for the long haul. Many posters here predicted he wouldn't last the year and it looks like we were right and he hasn't.

I knew people would see that and come to that conclusion, however, no it doesn't mean Shayne is leaving. It's simply a condition of our constitution that each position be advertised every year. At this point, Shayne will be staying on as A Grade & Under 15's Coach. Not sure on 17's again, but we will at least be able to field 15's as well as 13's next year.

Is that a real U/13's side or is half the team going to be over age again?

Hhhmmm......Not sure that eight weeks for threatening to kill an umpire is the greatest look on a resume. And re the Under 13's, it might be all about kids getting a game. But there may also be some genuine Under 13's from other sides who might choose to AVOID a game if they're 12 years old and likely to find themselves standing an apponent who's nearly 15 and almost a man.

Sorry to be so far behind the play. You have made a very good point Crumber. Regarding under 13's, my mate's son was in exactly the same position against Callington earlier this season in that at 11 and a half years old he found himself standing a permit kid who was 14 and a half. No attempt was made by the Callington coach to even things up, he just wanted to win. Mate's son does not want to play against Callington again. Hope the above responses help to answer your question ball-breaker.

[Kick'n Back]

What is happening with the coaching position at Gum rumours going around were Thommo is gone and Gatto from Eastern Park was set to take over but i see on the Yorke Pen page that he has signed for someone it that league

[redsox]

Who's got the Nairne job. Could be a good one to have if the rumours of in-comings are true.

Been told by a mate that Tony Fielke has got the job but who are the in-comings?

[Redfern07]

So Echunga A grade coach has been sacked. Bit rough after just winning a premiership I'd say.

Heard grand final day that this would happen. Does seem strange and you wonder if any players will go with him. Did hear that former sturt champ Bruce Lennon is set to take over

Could this be the rebirth of an impact coach. Word coming mid season they were sounding out a Ross Lyon take over at seasons end.

Could be on to something there Duke. My mail tells me the after a disastrous first season with the whistle, Mick "the Golden Whistle" Taylor has informed the impact umpire he maybe better suited to destroying football from a different angle and a return to coaching maybe on the cards?

[No Respect]

Geez it's interesting reading some of the dribble that uninformed posters are dishing up on this site regarding the Madsen sacking! Fleet hasnt followed Madsen anywhere he had been at echunga for a year before scott arrived no players will leave on his behalf! Scott is a terrific bloke whom everybody likes, however as the year wore on the standard of training and trainingattendances began to drop and inevitably so did performance. It would seem the board believed that the drop in standard was largely due to the way the team was coached. I am aware that winning a premiership and only losing 2 games on the way is a great achievement but at times against the lower ranked teams and at training the standard and attitude was not good enough and at the end of the day the buck tops with the coach. Echunga have set a level of training and performance that is quite high over the last few years and it seems that on too many occasions this year that level was not met. Rant over just thought I'd chuck my 2 cents in

Talk about uninformed, not 100% sure about wot you say. tru fleet was at echunga first but has said that he wont necessarily stay there depending on coach. also have heard that some players would follow scott depending on where he went - some rated him above bowden. also training standard? watched a couple of trainings from my car and seemed ok to me.

[New Era]

however as the year wore on the standard of training and training attendances began to drop and inevitably so did performance.

Especially in the grand final - you simpleton

It would seem the board believed that the drop in standard was largely due to the way the team was coached.

Especially in the grand final

I am aware that winning a premiership and only losing 2 games on the way is a great achievement but at times against the lower ranked teams and at training the standard and attitude was not good enough and at the end of the day the buck tops with the coach.

Are you also aware that come finals those lower ranked teams are watching from the boundary and only the higher ranked teams are actually playing so who cares?

Echunga have set a level of training and performance that is quite high over the last few years and it seems that on too many occasions this year that level was not met.

Except in the most important game of the year - yeah, I see your problem

Rant over just thought I'd chuck my 2 cents in

2 cents is as much as your input is worth and you should know 2 cents is a redundant currency and so should your bullsh1t justification of your redneck board be. There's my 5 cents worth.

[bigbadkenny]

Geez it's interesting reading some of the dribble that uninformed posters are dishing up on this site regarding the Madsen sacking! Fleet hasnt followed Madsen anywhere he had been at echunga for a year before scott arrived no players will leave on his behalf! Scott is a terrific bloke whom everybody likes, however as the year wore on the standard of training and trainingattendances began to drop and inevitably so did performance. It would seem the board believed that the drop in standard was largely due to the way the team was coached. I am aware that winning a premiership and only losing 2 games on the way is a great achievement but at times against the lower ranked teams and at training the standard and attitude was not good enough and at the end of the day the buck tops with the coach. Echunga have set a level of training and performance that is quite high over the last few years and it seems that on too many occasions this year that level was not met. Rant over just thought I'd chuck my 2 cents in

It's country footy still hitler,most sides would drop off half way threw the year being minus 8 degrees,I no kangys lost players in the end for setting high standards with stringer, so why would you get rid of a coach that's won a flag.(disgraceful)what would of happened if this other guy wasn't around you probably sign him on a three year contract

[DKL]

however as the year wore on the standard of training and training attendances began to drop and inevitably so did performance.

Especially in the grand final - you simpleton

It would seem the board believed that the drop in standard was largely due to the way the team was coached.

Especially in the grand final

I am aware that winning a premiership and only losing 2 games on the way is a great achievement but at times against the lower ranked teams and at training the standard and attitude was not good enough and at the end of the day the buck tops with the coach.

Are you also aware that come finals those lower ranked teams are watching from the boundary and only the higher ranked teams are actually playing so who cares?

Echunga have set a level of training and performance that is quite high over the last few years and it seems that on too many occasions this year that level was not met.

Except in the most important game of the year - yeah, I see your problem

Rant over just thought I'd chuck my 2 cents in

2 cents is as much as your input is worth and you should know 2 cents is a redundant currency and so should your bullsh1t justification of your redneck board be. There's my 5 cents worth.

[The Sorce]

Have never heard one player rate him above bawden! ( hahaha) if Scott or anyone thinks he would have come close without the prvious years of bawdens then the are dreaming. Lot if talk about people following but I know they are a very close playing group and really wasn't the coaches efforts that created that! You will have to wait and see if he takes up another role, and what sort of coin he has to throw around but again I would highly doubt players following now they have tasted success after a long wait! Again as I can see it with the rumored coach and players to join the club Echunga will only get stronger!!!!

[RAMS]

Tony Fielke has been confirmed as the new Senior Coach for the RAMS. Come with a wealth of knowledge and experience, a great pick up for the Club.

[youngpace]

Have I missed something? What the HELL would be the reasoning behind that?![/quote]

Madsen was a dead man walking all year. Old Echunga president appointed him, but the new prez had Lennon firmly in his sights for 2012. Even a Premiership couldn't save him. Extraordinary but true, yes a premiership coach has been moved on.[/quote]

If that is true, Echunga are a DISGRACE!![/quote]

That is really crazy...He seems a really capable coach and why would you mess with that formula?

Will players follow him? I know Fleet followed him before but I guess it's always hard to leave a winning side...[/quote]

I have heard of it happening before and i am sure it will happen again. You are not correct there FW, the current pres. did not have Lennon "firmly in his sights" for 2012, it was in fact other members of the club who approached Bruce, suggest checking your sorce there old mate.

[youngpace]

Have never heard one player rate him above bawden! ( hahaha) if Scott or anyone thinks he would have come close without the prvious years of bawdens then the are dreaming. Lot if talk about people following but I know they are a very close playing group and really wasn't the coaches efforts that created that! You will have to wait and see if he takes up another role, and what sort of coin he has to throw around but again I would highly doubt players following now they have tasted success after a long wait! Again as I can see it with the rumored coach and players to join the club Echunga will only get stronger!!!!

Agreed I dont see to many leaving to follow Scotty, however i could be wrong, the playing group is very tight nit at the dee's and I beleive anyone that may leave in 2012 will be doing it for different reasons.

[youngpace]

however as the year wore on the standard of training and training attendances began to drop and inevitably so did performance.

Especially in the grand final - you simpleton

It would seem the board believed that the drop in standard was largely due to the way the team was coached.

Especially in the grand final

yes some would argue especially in the GF, many would say the playing group lead themselves all year and into the GF

I am aware that winning a premiership and only losing 2 games on the way is a great achievement but at times against the lower ranked teams and at training the standard and attitude was not good enough and at the end of the day the buck tops with the coach.

Are you also aware that come finals those lower ranked teams are watching from the boundary and only the higher ranked teams are actually playing so who cares?

Echunga have set a level of training and performance that is quite high over the last few years and it seems that on too many occasions this year that level was not met.

Except in the most important game of the year - yeah, I see your problem

Rant over just thought I'd chuck my 2 cents in

2 cents is as much as your input is worth and you should know 2 cents is a redundant currency and so should your bullsh1t justification of your redneck board be. There's my 5 cents worth.

New Era, are you going to actually use a rebuttal or just make statements and pass judgment on other posters and their use of figures of speach? not to mention your attack at the committee, you will find bookie has a lot of an involvement and therefor knowledge of the happenings at training and in games, leaving him with a much more valuable opinion

Scott had (as every coach does) strengths and weakness's as the coach, the committee decided that the strengths were out weighed by weakness's and therefore made the call. Yes, the EFC are attempting to set the bar high yes, why is that an issue?

[Justquietly]

So boards now decide coaches on training performance not premierships?

So if he go the trainings right but lost the flag he would still be there?

Yeah, good luck to the Dees & the all-important trainings next season.
On another note, Echunga & Birdwood definitely no-go's into Central?

[R. White]

So boards now decide coaches on training performance not premierships?

So if he go the trainings right but lost the flag he would still be there?

Yeah, good luck to the Dees & the all-important trainings next season.
On another note, Echunga & Birdwood definitely no-go's into Central?

Ever heard the expression, "play how you train" JQ?

[ORDoubleBlues]

IMHO they were a fantastic minor round side under Bawden but usually struggled comes finals time with the exception of a 2010 GF appearance. Think they definitely underachieved under Bawden.

[bookie]

Some serious Madsen fans on this site!! understandable though he is a good bloke. Thought that some ppl would have enjoyed an explanation from the Echunga Football Club on this subject but it would appear most peoples minds were already made up. But still there are a Just a few points id like to address:

Firstly NO RESPECT: Fleet is solid at Echunga 100% on that. Im as informed as they come on that subject my friend.

Secondly BIG BAD KENNY: Hitler touch harsh........Goebbels maybe. You say Kangarilla lost players from setting the standard too high if players leave because you set a high standard id suggest they wouldnt be the type of players that would be carrying you to a Grand Final anyway, so good riddence!! How have Kangarilla gone since they have lowered their standards?

Thirdly DUTCHY: Cricket season starts in a few weeks mate i suggest you stick to posting on a subject you actually know about

And Finally NEW ERA: Of course im going to try to justify the board decision. What would you do when a bunch of blokes that dont have any idea about the situation, chirp in with opinions that are WAY off base about your football club?
Although I am a touch confused about your post (which shouldnt surprise you i am a simpleton). Judging by your logic it doesnt matter how the coach has coached all year as long as they coach well in the grand final? SOOOO if the team plays below par all year but pulls one out of the bag in the grand final the coach should be immediatly re-appointed? seems all just a little bit SIMPLE to me. Good sign off line too, it may have been totally irrelevant and off topic but good nonetheless.

Well there is my 2 cents worth once again, or should that be 4 cents now? help me out New Era........

[false]

Ok so I apologize about the Fleet comment... thought he came with previous coach but happy to be wrong.
You can't honestly surprised people questioning the decision though! At the end of the day the results will tell the story but it's pretty fair to speak an opinion on a forum about something such as this.
And I would agree that he coached well during the season... lost only one game then one game in the finals... smashed a red hot Meadows (although the form of the other teams did flatter them a little)...


but hey, just a humble observer... I hope for my sakes they've made the wrong decision

[false]

So boards now decide coaches on training performance not premierships?

So if he go the trainings right but lost the flag he would still be there?

Yeah, good luck to the Dees & the all-important trainings next season.
On another note, Echunga & Birdwood definitely no-go's into Central?

There is an AGM in a couple of weeks where the decision will be made... There is some drive to head back to Central but we will wait and see. Some players obviously sick of the lack of a competetive game every week and the development that this has for younger players.
Colts is also an issue. I think our Junior Colts player Echunga 6 times or something crazy like that...
I would imagine if Callington and Sedan weren't in the league then we'd have no drama's about staying down becuase other clubs will catch up/things will level out (Kangarilla, Meadows and Nairne all great colts and clubs. Don't know about Maccy!) and our population base is not really on the level of Central clubs and we also don't have the proximety to large population bases...