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Re: Southern Football League

Postby adelaide bank » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:35 pm

Why does everyone complain about how one sided the SFL has become . Then when a club uses extra points granted to them to make them more competitive actually uses them well and starts being a strong side you all get upset . I say Well done SFL for granting them more points and Bloody well done Morphy Parks for using them so well and recruiting high profile players to your club.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby pantherman » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:22 pm

Heard Matt Nadilo isnt going so well after saturday's collision. Wish him all the best, awesome player and even better bloke. Get well soon Nad's!!!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Injured Phantom » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:23 pm

adelaide bank wrote:Why does everyone complain about how one sided the SFL has become . Then when a club uses extra points granted to them to make them more competitive actually uses them well and starts being a strong side you all get upset . I say Well done SFL for granting them more points and Bloody well done Morphy Parks for using them so well and recruiting high profile players to your club.


I agree with you AB. I personally dislike MVP but I support this case. Is it their fault that their proposal was approved? They tried something, and got the green light, good on them. So by having extra points, are they better off having 6 blokes who may be fringe or OK players in other teams, or two guns that opposition teams will need to plan and counter-attack? If they miss the finals or come 8th like previous years, sure the experiment has failed, if they make it to the Prelims it has worked. Having said that, if they make it to the second week of finals I would like the SFL to remove the extra points, but I guess that would not have been in the agreement.

Mouse will be a handy player, and who cares if he has chased the $$$'s. If success brings a few juniors to a club with little access to high schools, the approach has worked. It would be great if the guys on the $$'s with high level experience are also coaching a junior team. I would have thought a Mercenary is a player who pimps from club to club purely for the $'s. If this is the case he may have the talent to have a crack at a higher level. Mouse has done enough at the higher level, why not play 'locally' for some cash for a year or two. If he goes to Noarlunga next season, Happy Valley the next, then $am Mahoney grabs him, then loyalty can be questioned and could be handed the Mercenary tag.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby helicopterking » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:06 pm

adelaide bank wrote:Why does everyone complain about how one sided the SFL has become . Then when a club uses extra points granted to them to make them more competitive actually uses them well and starts being a strong side you all get upset . I say Well done SFL for granting them more points and Bloody well done Morphy Parks for using them so well and recruiting high profile players to your club.



Because there are other teams also in the area who will suffer recruiting problems, because one team can pump high profile players with 'questionable' cash, why others who choose not too, dont stand a chance. Lets hope for their sake it works, because if it doesnt, the downside of this 'high', will be a complete bottom out. I hope there juniors are getting any leftover spare coins that fall from their players pockets, with the direction they are heading, i fear for them. But i guess you have to try something, to stay 'competitive'.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:56 pm

helicopterking wrote:
adelaide bank wrote:Why does everyone complain about how one sided the SFL has become . Then when a club uses extra points granted to them to make them more competitive actually uses them well and starts being a strong side you all get upset . I say Well done SFL for granting them more points and Bloody well done Morphy Parks for using them so well and recruiting high profile players to your club.



Because there are other teams also in the area who will suffer recruiting problems, because one team can pump high profile players with 'questionable' cash, why others who choose not too, dont stand a chance. Lets hope for their sake it works, because if it doesnt, the downside of this 'high', will be a complete bottom out. I hope there juniors are getting any leftover spare coins that fall from their players pockets, with the direction they are heading, i fear for them. But i guess you have to try something, to stay 'competitive'.


How can their cash be "questionable"? There is no salary cap and if a sponsor or benefactor stumps up the cash then that's their good fortune. The money issue is a looming problem for a lot of SFL clubs, especially given the divide between top and bottom sides, but it's perfectly legal to pay a player however much you like, as long as the incomei is declared by the player.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby helicopterking » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:08 pm

afc9798 wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
adelaide bank wrote:Why does everyone complain about how one sided the SFL has become . Then when a club uses extra points granted to them to make them more competitive actually uses them well and starts being a strong side you all get upset . I say Well done SFL for granting them more points and Bloody well done Morphy Parks for using them so well and recruiting high profile players to your club.



Because there are other teams also in the area who will suffer recruiting problems, because one team can pump high profile players with 'questionable' cash, why others who choose not too, dont stand a chance. Lets hope for their sake it works, because if it doesnt, the downside of this 'high', will be a complete bottom out. I hope there juniors are getting any leftover spare coins that fall from their players pockets, with the direction they are heading, i fear for them. But i guess you have to try something, to stay 'competitive'.


How can their cash be "questionable"? There is no salary cap and if a sponsor or benefactor stumps up the cash then that's their good fortune. The money issue is a looming problem for a lot of SFL clubs, especially given the divide between top and bottom sides, but it's perfectly legal to pay a player however much you like, as long as the incomei is declared by the player.


There is the questionable part.
$1300x 20 games. $26000. Lot of money for one bloke, good on him.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Bag The Points » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:51 pm

Getting on to actual footy, I reckon it must have been a pretty entertaining match down at Twistie Park (except for Nads of course. I hope the lad picks up and ends up with a quick recovery).
Nine-goal first term by home side, then visitors get right back to have the match in their sights at the last break before Roos stand up and take it in the last term.
Also the clash between Cranston and Bode which must have been enthralling. Looking at the best player lists they must have each had a strong say while their side was making its run.
Sure wish I was there.
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Southern Football League

Postby White Line Fever » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:38 am

Income declared by a player?

Hahahaha
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby WHEELS&DEALS » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:39 am

Time to Comment. Will try and Keep it short.
1. Brett Backwell contacted us. He lives close and knows a few boys at the club, all helps. He could have gone to Strath or a few other clubs for some very big coin but he didn't. He picked us. Every club would have fitted him into there team, we would have been stupid to say no to him.
2. I thought our midfield was petty good already. We still have Ruwoldt and King to come back in and now with Backwell it will only get better. All of the players are pretty happy to have him on board, you would rather play with him than against him. Football is about team success not individual. One of our points players had to go back home to the country for personal reasons so Brett will fill his spot nicely.
3. Points. We are in the second year of an agreement with the SFL regarding points. We have 3 extra this year and next year will be back to 15. The club now has all grades bar U18's and is close to getting them. The junior teams are becoming alot stronger (will leave the saturday/sunday point for another post) and we hope to see them moving into the senior teams in the next 2 years. Have we wasted our extra points? no I don't think so, Cranston has been a great pick up and is worth the 4 points and the pack of chips and can of soft drink we pay him :). Would be getting a bit but $1300 is a joke. He also would have been a factor with Backwell coming on board. The club had a 3 year plan regarding the extra points and juniors, so far the plan is working and maybe a bit quicker than we thought.
4. We want the league to become stronger but there are alot of people out there that criticize when clubs try to improve. The same old saying, trying to buy a premiership, spending to much money, poaching other clubs players not spending enough time on there juniors. The Morphettville Park football club is trying to build a strong and successfull club not just for one year but for the next 20 years. GO THE ROOS.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:41 am

White Line Fever wrote:Income declared by a player?

Hahahaha


I know it doesn't happen, I was just stating that this was the only legal requirement with regards to player payments. To point out this is not an SFL requirement, but an ATO requirement. It was to make the point regarding "questionable cash" that was raised, which of course does not mean anything when there's no salary cap.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:52 am

WHEELS&DEALS wrote:Time to Comment. Will try and Keep it short.
1. Brett Backwell contacted us. He lives close and knows a few boys at the club, all helps. He could have gone to Strath or a few other clubs for some very big coin but he didn't. He picked us. Every club would have fitted him into there team, we would have been stupid to say no to him.
2. I thought our midfield was petty good already. We still have Ruwoldt and King to come back in and now with Backwell it will only get better. All of the players are pretty happy to have him on board, you would rather play with him than against him. Football is about team success not individual. One of our points players had to go back home to the country for personal reasons so Brett will fill his spot nicely.
3. Points. We are in the second year of an agreement with the SFL regarding points. We have 3 extra this year and next year will be back to 15. The club now has all grades bar U18's and is close to getting them. The junior teams are becoming alot stronger (will leave the saturday/sunday point for another post) and we hope to see them moving into the senior teams in the next 2 years. Have we wasted our extra points? no I don't think so, Cranston has been a great pick up and is worth the 4 points and the pack of chips and can of soft drink we pay him :). Would be getting a bit but $1300 is a joke. He also would have been a factor with Backwell coming on board. The club had a 3 year plan regarding the extra points and juniors, so far the plan is working and maybe a bit quicker than we thought.
4. We want the league to become stronger but there are alot of people out there that criticize when clubs try to improve. The same old saying, trying to buy a premiership, spending to much money, poaching other clubs players not spending enough time on there juniors. The Morphettville Park football club is trying to build a strong and successfull club not just for one year but for the next 20 years. GO THE ROOS.


Well answered, Apart from their footy abilities, Trev and Mouse are both quality blokes who would be great around any footy club.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Panther32 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:37 am

Dutchy wrote:
WHEELS&DEALS wrote:Time to Comment. Will try and Keep it short.
1. Brett Backwell contacted us. He lives close and knows a few boys at the club, all helps. He could have gone to Strath or a few other clubs for some very big coin but he didn't. He picked us. Every club would have fitted him into there team, we would have been stupid to say no to him.
2. I thought our midfield was petty good already. We still have Ruwoldt and King to come back in and now with Backwell it will only get better. All of the players are pretty happy to have him on board, you would rather play with him than against him. Football is about team success not individual. One of our points players had to go back home to the country for personal reasons so Brett will fill his spot nicely.
3. Points. We are in the second year of an agreement with the SFL regarding points. We have 3 extra this year and next year will be back to 15. The club now has all grades bar U18's and is close to getting them. The junior teams are becoming alot stronger (will leave the saturday/sunday point for another post) and we hope to see them moving into the senior teams in the next 2 years. Have we wasted our extra points? no I don't think so, Cranston has been a great pick up and is worth the 4 points and the pack of chips and can of soft drink we pay him :). Would be getting a bit but $1300 is a joke. He also would have been a factor with Backwell coming on board. The club had a 3 year plan regarding the extra points and juniors, so far the plan is working and maybe a bit quicker than we thought.
4. We want the league to become stronger but there are alot of people out there that criticize when clubs try to improve. The same old saying, trying to buy a premiership, spending to much money, poaching other clubs players not spending enough time on there juniors. The Morphettville Park football club is trying to build a strong and successfull club not just for one year but for the next 20 years. GO THE ROOS.


Well answered, Apart from their footy abilities, Trev and Mouse are both quality blokes who would be great around any footy club.

If everyone stays on board then you should still fit under that points cap then i'm assuming?
Would you not be better off next year trying to recruit some younger players who may stay around for the long term and improve whilst you hold on to the big name players you have, assuming they hang around?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Leo » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:03 am

WHEELS&DEALS wrote:Time to Comment. Will try and Keep it short.
1. Brett Backwell contacted us. He lives close and knows a few boys at the club, all helps. He could have gone to Strath or a few other clubs for some very big coin but he didn't. He picked us. Every club would have fitted him into there team, we would have been stupid to say no to him.
2. I thought our midfield was petty good already. We still have Ruwoldt and King to come back in and now with Backwell it will only get better. All of the players are pretty happy to have him on board, you would rather play with him than against him. Football is about team success not individual. One of our points players had to go back home to the country for personal reasons so Brett will fill his spot nicely.
3. Points. We are in the second year of an agreement with the SFL regarding points. We have 3 extra this year and next year will be back to 15. The club now has all grades bar U18's and is close to getting them. The junior teams are becoming alot stronger (will leave the saturday/sunday point for another post) and we hope to see them moving into the senior teams in the next 2 years. Have we wasted our extra points? no I don't think so, Cranston has been a great pick up and is worth the 4 points and the pack of chips and can of soft drink we pay him :). Would be getting a bit but $1300 is a joke. He also would have been a factor with Backwell coming on board. The club had a 3 year plan regarding the extra points and juniors, so far the plan is working and maybe a bit quicker than we thought.
4. We want the league to become stronger but there are alot of people out there that criticize when clubs try to improve. The same old saying, trying to buy a premiership, spending to much money, poaching other clubs players not spending enough time on there juniors. The Morphettville Park football club is trying to build a strong and successfull club not just for one year but for the next 20 years. GO THE ROOS.


This is the most important piece of the puzzle. Without under 18's, it would be impossible to acheive long term success. You need to introduce young players to the seniors to compliment the top tier players year after year. They predominantly have to come from your own backyard so you can continue to "top up" the squad with the odd superstar. The kids love playing with them, and the older guys enjoy watching their development. I remember being a scrawny kid playing next to Geoff Winton. Physically he didnt have a huge influence as his body was struggling but his willingness to teach the kids was so valuable. As long as MVP can get these 18's up and running, i think they are doing it the right way. As compared to Aldinga, who tried to recruit and pay juniors instead of promoting their own and recruiting more senior players.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby The Dictator » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:38 am

All banter aside. Any club would acquire his services. Mouse is a super fit guy and capable of playing the next 3 years at this level, to a very high standard. I am not privy to the financial situation at MVP, but getting in Cranston and Backwell will only help attract younger players to the club. Yes, there are no u'18's but getting players of this caliber can only help going forward. I GUARANTEE other players will put their hand up to come and play at MVP alongside these blokes, well done to MVP and all the best.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby One Eyed » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:39 pm

Mouse IF he is switched on will be super for MV as for the amount of loot I know what he was offered elsewhere so I assume and thats all it is an assumption MV would have had to be close. I have no doubts the Cranston link aswell as there partners know each other would have been a big part of him signing and the dollars ha ha ha
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby onlooker » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:33 pm

hey all, new poster on this forum..

i have been following the Southern League for a while now, have been working a few saturdays but get to games when i can for a look..

I am interested in the Aldinga football club - there results were much improved last year and this year they have fallen away dramatically. I know the coach and a few players have gone but wow what a drop..

I have actually seen one or two of their clubs C Grade games and they have some good footballers in that side, surely these guys could be playing up a level? Their C Grade have been quite competitive and as mentioned there are some solid on ballers who can find the footy, albeit some are a bit slow in regards to leg speed..

whats next for the Sharks next year? will players hang around?

Thanks :)
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby fathersonsfl » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:36 pm

onlooker wrote:hey all, new poster on this forum..

i have been following the Southern League for a while now, have been working a few saturdays but get to games when i can for a look..

I am interested in the Aldinga football club - there results were much improved last year and this year they have fallen away dramatically. I know the coach and a few players have gone but wow what a drop..

I have actually seen one or two of their clubs C Grade games and they have some good footballers in that side, surely these guys could be playing up a level? Their C Grade have been quite competitive and as mentioned there are some solid on ballers who can find the footy, albeit some are a bit slow in regards to leg speed..

whats next for the Sharks next year? will players hang around?

Thanks :)

Whilst I have not seen Aldinga's C grade play, there are massive standard gaps between both C and B grade and B and A grade, so those good footballers, whilst probably able to play well in the C grade would probably struggle in the B grade let alone the A grade.

I am not in the inner sanctum of Aldinga so I have no idea what is next for the Sharks but it seems that they have some ok juniors around the place, they just need to get a coach that can attract 8-10 good A grade footballers otherwise they will continue down the same path thay have travelled for a long time now.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Backliner » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:27 pm

Aldinga had a few of the better players leave last year as well as the coach. The current coach has brought along players but unfortunately during pre-season some of the newly recruited/contracted players were lost to the mines, as well as some of last years regular A graders (eg Joel Harman, Scott March). Part of Fudge's appointment I understand was to also develop our U18's alongside the U18 coach, a lot of first year U18's. There are a lot of 2011 B grade players who didn't come out as normal which has left our B grade a bit short, filled by our U18's and C grade. Aldinga was always going to get good numbers for C grade but as I said the B grade numbers dropped of at the start of the season. For one reason or another A grade players have dropped off/stopped playing forcing U18's to step up as well as regular B graders.

2013 - A sub committee has been formed headed by an ex-President/Life member (early 1990's/premiership era) and are contacting players as well as people who the club think may be able to provide contacts of players that can move the club forward. Fudge has stated he is committed for next year and understood it would be a challenge when he took the job. Wheels are in motion for next year.

Saying Aldinga doesn't promote younger guys you musn't read the teamsheets or have the right information.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby onlooker » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:38 pm

Thanks for the feedback, I guess there would be a bit of a class difference from C grade to grades above, they were certainatly hard at the footy though and really supported each other with voice etc. hopefully they stick around the club with the juniors and current players.

I did hear the A Grade coach there would 100% not be there next year? Could be my mistake though.. I heard perhaps his partner got a job not in Adelaide. But I don't know and I'm not gonna start a strong rumour...
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Backliner » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:30 pm

Having played against Fudge and been around him this year seems like a bloke who you can take his word, was asked if committed for next year and said 100%, looking forward to the challenge, unless thing's have changed in a week. Off field he has been handy organising player auctions, sponsors and functions, club is happy with the decision as far as I can tell.

As for the C grade I notice Onlooker you post about Flinders Uni and Aldinga C grade, seen a couple of games you say? Glad to see you praising the C grade though......
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