SAAFL cracking down on violence

[Choccies]

Anyone got any updates on the tribunal results of late ?
I understand a certain Hectorville player was up last night ??

[BenchedEagle]

Bad Call Jetters. Pre emptive strikes on banning players from your club because they 'might' hurt someone is ridiculous. Any player can snap under pressure and react badly to sledging, aggression and taunts no matter how tough or timid they are!

[old farmer]

Why can't we see the tribunal listings and results anymore....Like to know what happened to the Gepps player and Cental United had a red card on Saturday and would like to know what happened.....Surely this wasn't done tpo pretend that you don't have incidents in footy, at least we don't have chicken wing tackles

[Jetters]

Bad Call Jetters. Pre emptive strikes on banning players from your club because they 'might' hurt someone is ridiculous. Any player can snap under pressure and react badly to sledging, aggression and taunts no matter how tough or timid they are!

My point is if you know you have players/supporters/situations at your club that are known issues you take action before a serious incident occurs. Agreed, anyone can do something stupid and out of character, but thats not what I'm talking about.

[Haynzy]

Bad Call Jetters. Pre emptive strikes on banning players from your club because they 'might' hurt someone is ridiculous. Any player can snap under pressure and react badly to sledging, aggression and taunts no matter how tough or timid they are!

My point is if you know you have players/supporters/situations at your club that are known issues you take action before a serious incident occurs. Agreed, anyone can do something stupid and out of character, but thats not what I'm talking about.

Problem with this is that you start removing problem players from your club before they have had a brain snap and do something silly, they just move to another club who don't realise what they are like. The problem isn't solved, just shifted.
The only real way to fix it is come down tough on those people who regularly offend or cause serious harm and hope that people actually start thinking of the consequences of their actions.

[Jimmy_041]

Why can't we see the tribunal listings and results anymore....Like to know what happened to the Gepps player and Cental United had a red card on Saturday and would like to know what happened.....Surely this wasn't done tpo pretend that you don't have incidents in footy, at least we don't have chicken wing tackles

It stopped just after the Advertiser / Sunday Mail started printing names in their papers.
There are privacy issues, especially if a player is reported but found not guilty. It wont stop the newspapers calling for his head even though he may be innocent.
As the League recently found out, they do not print the truth even if you put it in print to them.
You only need to look at this little gem:

DIV 3: Kilburn's wins wiped.
The former division one powerhouse, which won the division-two grand final against Salisbury last year, will likely have to win 11 of the remaining 13 games to make the finals.

First club to win a Div 2 Grand Final and get dropped to Div 3

The League even wrote to them pointing out several errors and they have chosen not to correct anything

[mypaddock]

Why can't we see the tribunal listings and results anymore....Like to know what happened to the Gepps player and Cental United had a red card on Saturday and would like to know what happened.....Surely this wasn't done tpo pretend that you don't have incidents in footy, at least we don't have chicken wing tackles

It stopped just after the Advertiser / Sunday Mail started printing names in their papers.
There are privacy issues, especially if a player is reported but found not guilty. It wont stop the newspapers calling for his head even though he may be innocent.
As the League recently found out, they do not print the truth even if you put it in print to them.
You only need to look at this little gem:

DIV 3: Kilburn's wins wiped.
The former division one powerhouse, which won the division-two grand final against Salisbury last year, will likely have to win 11 of the remaining 13 games to make the finals.

First club to win a Div 2 Grand Final and get dropped to Div 3

The League even wrote to them pointing out several errors and they have chosen not to correct anything

How is this any different to the SANFL or AFL making reported players names public??
So what if something is written in the paper, on a forum etc. Doesn't make it gospel.

[zedman]

if there are no reports listed then all the violence is gone eh?

it is what it is..if it happens it should be listed as it has always has been since the website was up or else you are just hiding away from the truth and keeping information from clubs..it looks like they are running scared and no-one believes no reports are committed each week so the question then becomes.."what are they hiding?"..they are actually creating more rumours and innuendo by not listing them..

[Demon Juke]

if there are no reports listed then all the violence is gone eh?

it is what it is..if it happens it should be listed as it has always has been since the website was up or else you are just hiding away from the truth and keeping information from clubs..it looks like they are running scared and no-one believes no reports are committed each week so the question then becomes.."what are they hiding?"..they are actually creating more rumours and innuendo by not listing them..

All the verdict's from the tribunal are listed this week.

[zedman]

People power?

[Bold Strategy]

Pretty poor effort by the tribunal to give Shane scudds only 3 games (just in time for finals) at the tribunal ( for two striking charges), don't know how someone can come third man in from behind and throw 15 hay makers, thought the saafl were making a stand on violance and especially third man.in.

Even worse how they just ignore how a waterboy was throwing punches as well, who is an a grade player for gg but I won't name his name because I'm not 100% certain sure, good to see him run off after and take his top off class act.there , apologies to him how his sunnies got broken thou

Apparently to the saafl a rose does smell different if it has another name

[Caramels]

Clubs' reactions to violence is pissing me off.

An incident happens and clubs act all tough and try to remove themselves from the player and incident. Ingle Farm bring in security etc, Gepps ban a player .... Obviously this is very much preferable to doing nothing, but it seems it is more about clubs saving face than to rule out violence.

If clubs really wanted to stamp this shit out they would be taking anticipatory preventative measures. I can guarantee with just about complete certainty that NO clubs have removed a player from their club with a history of poor behaviour since the SAAFLs 'crack down on violence' in anticipation of doing something stupid that will put another players health and safety in jepordy.

This Gepps guy (according to previous posts) is a known hero, Ingle Farm had a bloke willing to bring out a knife at a footy game (and he didn't even initiate the problem!). Surely these people doing something stupid has not blown anyones mind. It would be a bloody rare occurance that someone without any history snaps one day and king hits some one, it is unfortunate when a club is put in this position.

BUT WHICH CLUBS HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO PREVENT AN INCIDENT BEFORE IT OCCURS!? I bet none.

Jetters, you should be the Prime Minister & Premier with all of your foresight and vast knowledge of how the world revolves. Just a very clever person who must not have an issue in his life.
I bet you know a few minutes before it happens that you need to take a crap!
If only things were that simple

[BurraBoys]

Pretty poor effort by the tribunal to give Shane scudds only 3 games (just in time for finals) at the tribunal ( for two striking charges), don't know how someone can come third man in from behind and throw 15 hay makers, thought the saafl were making a stand on violance and especially third man.in.

Even worse how they just ignore how a waterboy was throwing punches as well, who is an a grade player for gg but I won't name his name because I'm not 100% certain sure, good to see him run off after and take his top off class act.there , apologies to him how his sunnies got broken thou

Apparently to the saafl a rose does smell different if it has another name

Were you at the tribunal hearing? Do you know how it progressed? Was evidenced heard in a fair and unbiased manner?

If your frustrated, fair enough but stake a claim with some evidence.

Remind yourself how the incident started. The tribunal results may say otherwise but don't think your club is squeaky clean. I find much irony in your last sentence. We will cop the penalty and get on with it. Tidy your own back yard

Apart from that ugly incident that involved players from both sides, i quite enjoyed giving your side a schooling.

[Johno6]

The 3 hectorville guys that were reported. Did they show up to tribunal?

[mypaddock]

Pretty poor effort by the tribunal to give Shane scudds only 3 games (just in time for finals) at the tribunal ( for two striking charges), don't know how someone can come third man in from behind and throw 15 hay makers, thought the saafl were making a stand on violance and especially third man.in.

Even worse how they just ignore how a waterboy was throwing punches as well, who is an a grade player for gg but I won't name his name because I'm not 100% certain sure, good to see him run off after and take his top off class act.there , apologies to him how his sunnies got broken thou

Apparently to the saafl a rose does smell different if it has another name

Were you at the tribunal hearing? Do you know how it progressed? Was evidenced heard in a fair and unbiased manner?

If your frustrated, fair enough but stake a claim with some evidence.

Remind yourself how the incident started. The tribunal results may say otherwise but don't think your club is squeaky clean. I find much irony in your last sentence. We will cop the penalty and get on with it. Tidy your own back yard

Apart from that ugly incident that involved players from both sides, i quite enjoyed giving your side a schooling.

What I don't understand is the inconsistency in suspensions- Scudds gets 3 games for 2 separate striking charges, the guy from Portland gets 7 games for elbowing and the GG waterboy who is an A grader who runs on the field throwing punches gets nothing??

How does this make any sense??

WHERE'S THE CONSISTENCY SAAFL?

Makes you wonder it matters more as to who you are/where you're from rather than the offence committed..

[Q.]

Hectorville aren't Adelaide Uni wanting a rival side's player rubbed out for the upcoming finals series

[Footy Smart]

Pretty poor effort by the tribunal to give Shane scudds only 3 games (just in time for finals) at the tribunal ( for two striking charges), don't know how someone can come third man in from behind and throw 15 hay makers, thought the saafl were making a stand on violance and especially third man.in.

Even worse how they just ignore how a waterboy was throwing punches as well, who is an a grade player for gg but I won't name his name because I'm not 100% certain sure, good to see him run off after and take his top off class act.there , apologies to him how his sunnies got broken thou

Apparently to the saafl a rose does smell different if it has another name

Were you at the tribunal hearing? Do you know how it progressed? Was evidenced heard in a fair and unbiased manner?

If your frustrated, fair enough but stake a claim with some evidence.

Remind yourself how the incident started. The tribunal results may say otherwise but don't think your club is squeaky clean. I find much irony in your last sentence. We will cop the penalty and get on with it. Tidy your own back yard

Apart from that ugly incident that involved players from both sides, i quite enjoyed giving your side a schooling.

Another arrogant post from you BB? People always feel hard done by, you blokes cried bloody murder when one bloke tackled a player late…

Shane got in a stoush and threw a few, landed a few as well from all reports.

Sam ran in and threw a few, this is uncharacteristic for Sam – may have got caught up in the moment. No excuse though should have been punished

Hectorville players were obviously involved – should have been punished accordingly.

IMO 3 weeks for Shane, probably around the mark wouldn’t want any less from what I have heard from a number of people – Sam very lucky! AND it cant be compared to a strike in Div 2 where video evidence removes the he said she said

[BurraBoys]

I don't intend to be arrogant. I can see it coming across that way though

My gripe is more so with the sledge against the tribunal. Not unnecessary IMHO

If video evidence of an incident was available and the proper proceedings took place, we as a collective should cop it and move on
None of us were there (at the tribunal). We don't know what transpired and that is unlikely to become evident. Was leniency given due other factors? Maybe, its all speculation.

Should have more individuals from both sides faced penalty? Maybe. Not for us to decide. Given the information and evidence available, tribunals acts as best they can.

As you pointed out clearly in the D4 forum FS, no one from our club denied or defended any position. We chose to remain silent and impartial and let it take it's course. Course taken.

[Choccies]

Bold Strategy - Stupid post... 15 haymakers ?? Pretty sure if he threw 15 haymakers the video evidence (that WE supplied) would have highlighted that don't you think ?? And if the water runner was throwing punches (very incorrect) and stripping off his top (so that another person could run water in the official white top) which was done after he was sent off by the umpires for being involved in the chaos, and rightly so. He deserved to be sent off.... don't you think this would have also been highlighted on the video ?? It was an ugly incident that both sides can be blamed for and no-one will ever agree and there'll always be "he said, she said"... So lets move on. None of us was at the hearing so we'll never know what went on anyway....

And FS, It's amusing how you always feel compelled to give your over-inflated opinion when it comes to issues involving GG.

Done and dusted now, we move on and play in the finals and do our best.

[Footy Smart]

Bold Strategy - Stupid post... 15 haymakers ?? Pretty sure if he threw 15 haymakers the video evidence (that WE supplied) would have highlighted that don't you think ?? And if the water runner was throwing punches (very incorrect) and stripping off his top (so that another person could run water in the official white top) which was done after he was sent off by the umpires for being involved in the chaos, and rightly so. He deserved to be sent off.... don't you think this would have also been highlighted on the video ?? It was an ugly incident that both sides can be blamed for and no-one will ever agree and there'll always be "he said, she said"... So lets move on. None of us was at the hearing so we'll never know what went on anyway....

And FS, It's amusing how you always feel compelled to give your over-inflated opinion when it comes to issues involving GG.

Done and dusted now, we move on and play in the finals and do our best.

As amusing as you GG blokes all over this place when your winning and when an incident occurs against one of your blokes? yet last few weeks have been nowhere to be seen? I have nothing against GG I have a fair few mates who play out there, just keeping you lads honest thats all apart from telling BB to not be so arrogant in his post which he was, I was actually defending the GG players involved and the sentance Shane recieved in light of the first post saying he should have been given more