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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Dutchy » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:31 pm

on the rails wrote:
After all all we keep hearing in this AFL debate from both Port and Adelaide is "in one team for development"!


I still cant believe the AFL teams believe that playing their reserves in the SANFL reserves is better preparation than them spread across the SANFL league teams.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby hereselmo1 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:33 pm

Why are you so consistently bitter about Port Adelaide?

it's like you just have One Goal In Mind.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby on the rails » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:38 pm

hereselmo1 wrote:Why are you so consistently bitter about Port Adelaide?

it's like you just have One Goal In Mind.


Not bitter - btw your team has lower SANFL GF losing score than my team if you want to drag up the past and how was your last AFL GF effort, please remind us!
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby on the rails » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:42 pm

Dutchy wrote:
on the rails wrote:
After all all we keep hearing in this AFL debate from both Port and Adelaide is "in one team for development"!


I still cant believe the AFL teams believe that playing their reserves in the SANFL reserves is better preparation than them spread across the SANFL league teams.


Well they have pushed the issue and it appears that this is the only option the SANFL will even look at and that is still no certainty at this stage.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby kickinit » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:45 pm

on the rails wrote:
hereselmo1 wrote:Why are you so consistently bitter about Port Adelaide?

it's like you just have One Goal In Mind.


Not bitter - btw your team has lower SANFL GF losing score than my team if you want to drag up the past and how was your last AFL GF effort, please remind us!


are you serious? do you wanna talk about 1989?
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby on the rails » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:54 pm

kickinit wrote:
on the rails wrote:
hereselmo1 wrote:Why are you so consistently bitter about Port Adelaide?

it's like you just have One Goal In Mind.


Not bitter - btw your team has lower SANFL GF losing score than my team if you want to drag up the past and how was your last AFL GF effort, please remind us!


are you serious? do you wanna talk about 1989?


Depends on how far back you want to go in history? After all history is history whether it was 24 years ago or back to 1905:

GF Sept 9th 1905
North Adelaide 6.8 44
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Port Adelaide 1.4 10
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby best for comp » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:59 pm

well done on the rails keeping our off the rails counterparts in check.If they don't accept the 1905 result where we beat them AND PORT only kicked I goal six points then they will have to adjust no of premierships won by the port magpies
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:11 am

kickinit wrote:
RB wrote:
kickinit wrote:
RB wrote:If Young really were in North's best 21, why would Francou not pick him? Does Francou, as coach of NAFC, want to win football matches, or does he want to spite Port Adelaide? Seems to me that the fact he was not picked is in and of itself clear evidence that he was not in the best 21.


so going by that you are saying north adelaide is at afl level?

Um, no. Read my post.

Selecting a football team is in some ways quite simple. Josh Francou had a pool of players, from which he had to choose 21 to play against Central. He chose his 21 players. Aaron Young was not one of those players. This does not reflect necessarily on whether or not Young (or NAFC for that matter) is at AFL level. It simply means that he was not considered by Francou (or the other selectors) to be in the 21 players who were most likely to defeat Central.

I believe that the league coach (and/or other team selectors) have the right to pick their best 21. Whether a potential player is an AFL players is irrelevant. Indeed the idea that an SANFL coach has no choice but to play an AFL listed player in his league team is IMO absurd.


but if he is in the powers best 25 for the week and doesn't get selected that means the 22 that did are btter players, so if he is in norths best 22 ( north said he would of played this week due to a injury so i'm guessing he's the next option) but doesn't get selected that means the 21 players that did are better then him. which means north best 21 must be close to the standard of the powers 22.

The funny thing about this is all you north supporters are having a cry, what for though he's not in your best 21 so it's no lost to you.


How can you not get this? What Port Power believe about where a player is at has no relevance to what other clubs think. As well as this, teams cannot be picked based purely on who are the best players. Team structure comes into it and for one week (just one week) the NAFC felt that our best structure did not include Young. Maybe the fact he hadn't played at North yet this season had something to do with that. Perhaps they thought that players who'd been in and around the club might have a better understanding of the structures and plans in place that would better serve the goals for the particular game. North did win comfortably so maybe, just maybe, they were right.

I'm not fussed about losing him from the club, i more feel sorry for him. He now has to play for a side that will hardly win any games just for the chance to get promoted to another one of those.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Jim05 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:18 am

Dont worry about it guys, the clubs will get their say soon enough.
The clubs wont forget any of this and will vote accordingly.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Groucho » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:06 am

Jim05 wrote:Dont worry about it guys, the clubs will get their say soon enough.
The clubs wont forget any of this and will vote accordingly.


Will they get a say? Or is it a fait accompli and be mandated from above or by Mr. Demetriou?
I hope you are right.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby kickinit » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:29 am

rod_rooster wrote:How can you not get this? What Port Power believe about where a player is at has no relevance to what other clubs think. As well as this, teams cannot be picked based purely on who are the best players. Team structure comes into it and for one week (just one week) the NAFC felt that our best structure did not include Young. Maybe the fact he hadn't played at North yet this season had something to do with that. Perhaps they thought that players who'd been in and around the club might have a better understanding of the structures and plans in place that would better serve the goals for the particular game. North did win comfortably so maybe, just maybe, they were right.

I'm not fussed about losing him from the club, i more feel sorry for him. He now has to play for a side that will hardly win any games just for the chance to get promoted to another one of those.


I do get, he should of been in the league side. so what your saying is every afl player should go to the ressies first so they can get use to the club structure? aaron young is clearly in norths best 21 so stop trying to make excuses why he wasn't, 41 possies and 3 goals while hardly breaking a jog clearly shows he is too good for the reserves side. Having a pre season under one of the best fitness and conditioning gurus going around clearly shows he is fit enough, and being in the AFL system which is a higher calibre of footy over SANFL for 3 years shows he would easily adjust to any team structure.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Asgardian » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:56 am

The Port Adelaide (AFL) players are paid by Port Adelaide (AFL).

Hence they (we) should have the right to dictate where our players play.

With some future good sense all Port Adelaide players will be based at Alberton

The crow players should also be based in a single club/arm of the crows.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Ian » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:19 am

Asgardian wrote:The Port Adelaide (AFL) players are paid by Port Adelaide (AFL).

Hence they (we) should have the right to dictate where our players play.

With some future good sense all Port Adelaide players will be based at Alberton

The crow players should also be based in a single club/arm of the crows.


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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby bickle » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:39 am

if power or crows have to use top up players how much would those players be paid, reserves standard i think $75 a game, or whatever the AFL players union says (dont know how much that would be, assume more).
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby robranisgod » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:45 am

hereselmo1 wrote:Why are you so consistently bitter about Port Adelaide?

it's like you just have One Goal In Mind.


Are you SA's "leading" football journalist. 1971 and 1972 have hurt him so much that he has had a vendetta against North Adelaide for 40 years.

The saddest thing about it all is that when the Power were performing well in the AFL circa 2004, they had a good relationship with the SANFL clubs. I remember at that time a young Stephen Gilham was playing for North reserves and the plan agreed to by the Power and North was that he was only to play a half. Unfortunately North reserves got a couple of serious injuries and the Power representative at the game, I think Geoff Morris, readily agreed to let Gilham play the full game, which wasn't in Port's best interests at the time, but certainly built goodwill between the clubs.

Given that their are two former Power greats coaching at North you would think that the Power would have a better relationship with North than they currently have.

And North did defeat Central by 41 points so surely the North coaching panel chose a side to win the game and that has to be their aim.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Ian » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:53 am

robranisgod wrote: the North coaching panel chose a side to win the game and that has to be their aim.



and that is exacly why AFL 2nds sides will never work playing league in the SANFL, that will not be their aim and anyoneone playing in any comp, let alone arguably the 2nd best comp in the land should be striving to win every game they play!
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby beenreal » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:20 am

rod_rooster wrote:I'm not fussed about losing him from the club, i more feel sorry for him. He now has to play for a side that will hardly win any games just for the chance to get promoted to another one of those.


See that's where you let yourself down. Even when making what might be considered a couple good points, you go and let yourself down with more trite, baseless, rhetoric about an allegedly struggling Port Adelaide, that happens to have attracted a multi-national as major sponsor and happens to be currently sitting on top of the AFL ladder.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby topsywaldron » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:52 am

beenreal wrote:Even when making what might be considered a couple good points, you go and let yourself down with more trite, baseless, rhetoric about an allegedly struggling Port Adelaide, that happens to have attracted a multi-national as major sponsor and happens to be currently sitting on top of the AFL ladder.


Wrong again.

Tell us more about your theory that 80% of Port's revenue goes straight to the SANFL just to confirm you have no clue.
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby Dutchy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:24 am

beenreal wrote:about an allegedly struggling Port Adelaide, that happens to have attracted a multi-national as major sponsor and happens to be currently sitting on top of the AFL ladder.


You have changed your name to Essendon and wear Black and Red? :shock:
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Re: Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:28 am

beenreal wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:I'm not fussed about losing him from the club, i more feel sorry for him. He now has to play for a side that will hardly win any games just for the chance to get promoted to another one of those.


See that's where you let yourself down. Even when making what might be considered a couple good points, you go and let yourself down with more trite, baseless, rhetoric about an allegedly struggling Port Adelaide, that happens to have attracted a multi-national as major sponsor and happens to be currently sitting on top of the AFL ladder.[/quote

now i thought he just moved to the magpies not the power!
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