Power players leaving SANFL clubs to Magpies

[heater31]

but the whole point of the adlaide oval deal was for a lean management to allow both the crows and port to make more revenue. Now you have a party that is there with no purpose but to make money. taking away from that revenue that is suppose to go the 2 clubs.

Yes that will be the case as the structure of the lease terms to use the oval will be different than at Football Park. One being that the AFL clubs have the opportunity to sell the advertising space around the ground with that money going directly to the clubs.

However this does rely on one big factor in the teams actually attracting a crowd to the games. Something I think Port Adelaide will struggle with!

[kickinit]

but the whole point of the adlaide oval deal was for a lean management to allow both the crows and port to make more revenue. Now you have a party that is there with no purpose but to make money. taking away from that revenue that is suppose to go the 2 clubs.

Yes that will be the case as the structure of the lease terms to use the oval will be different than at Football Park. One being that the AFL clubs have the opportunity to sell the advertising space around the ground with that money going directly to the clubs.

However this does rely on one big factor in the teams actually attracting a crowd to the games. Something I think Port Adelaide will struggle with!

yeh but keeping your revenue the same and having a lower running cost equals more profit. Which the adelaide oval deal was all about in the first place, and what attracted the crows in the first place. But now we have a party that is only after 1 thing and that's money and already the government has had to step in and investigate the running of the SMA. Like the $2million of tax payers money, that was suppose to be spent on the oval construction but instead went to the SANFL and SACA, and the $7million rise in the running cost of the SMA. And now it looks like the crows and power would of been better off staying at AAMI stadium.

[Jim05]

but the whole point of the adlaide oval deal was for a lean management to allow both the crows and port to make more revenue. Now you have a party that is there with no purpose but to make money. taking away from that revenue that is suppose to go the 2 clubs.

You will be far better off under this deal providing you attract decent crowds.
I believe your club gets all the advertising space at AO and even all the money from corporate boxes.
If you fill the stadium like you keep saying you will then you will be miles better off.

[Dutchy]

Port made the decision to move there, no one has forced them.

This is something new, Port fans blaming Adelaide oval before it is even built!

[whufc]

but the whole point of the adlaide oval deal was for a lean management to allow both the crows and port to make more revenue. Now you have a party that is there with no purpose but to make money. taking away from that revenue that is suppose to go the 2 clubs.

Yes that will be the case as the structure of the lease terms to use the oval will be different than at Football Park. One being that the AFL clubs have the opportunity to sell the advertising space around the ground with that money going directly to the clubs.

However this does rely on one big factor in the teams actually attracting a crowd to the games. Something I think Port Adelaide will struggle with!

yeh but keeping your revenue the same and having a lower running cost equals more profit. Which the adelaide oval deal was all about in the first place, and what attracted the crows in the first place. But now we have a party that is only after 1 thing and that's money and already the government has had to step in and investigate the running of the SMA. Like the $2million of tax payers money, that was suppose to be spent on the oval construction but instead went to the SANFL and SACA, and the $7million rise in the running cost of the SMA. And now it looks like the crows and power would of been better off staying at AAMI stadium.

if the Power/Crows were going to be worse off by owning their own licences with the current SMA deal as you have suggested do you think they would be wanting to buy the licences as much as they do.

[am Bays]

yeh but keeping your revenue the same and having a lower running cost equals more profit. Which the adelaide oval deal was all about in the first place, and what attracted the crows in the first place. But now we have a party that is only after 1 thing and that's money and already the government has had to step in and investigate the running of the SMA. Like the $2million of tax payers money, that was suppose to be spent on the oval construction but instead went to the SANFL and SACA, and the $7million rise in the running cost of the SMA. And now it looks like the crows and power would of been better off staying at AAMI stadium.

What lies were told? The truth "stretched"?

Nahhhh!!!!!

[Jim05]

but the whole point of the adlaide oval deal was for a lean management to allow both the crows and port to make more revenue. Now you have a party that is there with no purpose but to make money. taking away from that revenue that is suppose to go the 2 clubs.

Yes that will be the case as the structure of the lease terms to use the oval will be different than at Football Park. One being that the AFL clubs have the opportunity to sell the advertising space around the ground with that money going directly to the clubs.

However this does rely on one big factor in the teams actually attracting a crowd to the games. Something I think Port Adelaide will struggle with!

yeh but keeping your revenue the same and having a lower running cost equals more profit. Which the adelaide oval deal was all about in the first place, and what attracted the crows in the first place. But now we have a party that is only after 1 thing and that's money and already the government has had to step in and investigate the running of the SMA. Like the $2million of tax payers money, that was suppose to be spent on the oval construction but instead went to the SANFL and SACA, and the $7million rise in the running cost of the SMA. And now it looks like the crows and power would of been better off staying at AAMI stadium.

You will be a lot better off under the AO arrangement provided you sell your advertising fully and attract crowds.
If you attract your current pathetic crowds then Yes you would be no better off.
The Crows didnt want to leave AAMI, you forced their hand

[rod_rooster]

but the whole point of the adlaide oval deal was for a lean management to allow both the crows and port to make more revenue. Now you have a party that is there with no purpose but to make money. taking away from that revenue that is suppose to go the 2 clubs.

Yes that will be the case as the structure of the lease terms to use the oval will be different than at Football Park. One being that the AFL clubs have the opportunity to sell the advertising space around the ground with that money going directly to the clubs.

However this does rely on one big factor in the teams actually attracting a crowd to the games. Something I think Port Adelaide will struggle with!

yeh but keeping your revenue the same and having a lower running cost equals more profit. Which the adelaide oval deal was all about in the first place, and what attracted the crows in the first place. But now we have a party that is only after 1 thing and that's money and already the government has had to step in and investigate the running of the SMA. Like the $2million of tax payers money, that was suppose to be spent on the oval construction but instead went to the SANFL and SACA, and the $7million rise in the running cost of the SMA. And now it looks like the crows and power would of been better off staying at AAMI stadium.

Boo Hoo! Is it not working out as planned for Port? Perhaps it's time for Port to take some responsibility for the situation they are in themselves and stop blaming anyone and everyone else.

[Wedgie]

I've got 3 memberships to the SMA already as I know not one cent will be going to either AFL club and my 2.25k per year will be going to the SMA and being divided to the SANFL and SACA.

[kickinit]

but the whole point of the adlaide oval deal was for a lean management to allow both the crows and port to make more revenue. Now you have a party that is there with no purpose but to make money. taking away from that revenue that is suppose to go the 2 clubs.

You will be far better off under this deal providing you attract decent crowds.
I believe your club gets all the advertising space at AO and even all the money from corporate boxes.
If you fill the stadium like you keep saying you will then you will be miles better off.

no the SMA where only suppose to take 600 of the memberships but they have now taken 1,000 an extra, thats an extra 1.8million to the SMA that was originally going to the power and crows.

[Wedgie]

The SMA can do what they like mate, the Port and Crows are just tenants who while they're owned by the SANFL can do nothing about it, and even when they're no longer owned by the SANFL all they can do is move to another state or someone's back yard if they don't like the deal they get.
Under the original plan Port needed to get 5k more at Adelaide Oval per game than they need at Footy Pk to break even, its probably even worse now.
Its brought their death forward but it was imminent anyway.

[Jim05]

but the whole point of the adlaide oval deal was for a lean management to allow both the crows and port to make more revenue. Now you have a party that is there with no purpose but to make money. taking away from that revenue that is suppose to go the 2 clubs.

You will be far better off under this deal providing you attract decent crowds.
I believe your club gets all the advertising space at AO and even all the money from corporate boxes.
If you fill the stadium like you keep saying you will then you will be miles better off.

no the SMA where only suppose to take 600 of the memberships but they have now taken 1,000 an extra, thats an extra 1.8million to the SMA that was originally going to the power and crows.

You will have a similar deal to other clubs in the AFL, you will be much better off.
You are more than welcome to redevelop Alberton if you want, maybe for your crowds you would be better off with a 15,000 seat boutique stadium like GWS

[kickinit]

the power and crows where both going to be better off when moving to adelaide oval under the original plan. But know the SMA are basically stealing tax payers money and blowing out the running cost of the oval it is really looking like it's not a good deal. A deal now the power, crows and government are trying to fix. The one good thing for the power and crows is once the afl buy back the license the SANFl are going to have to deal with Dimetriou, a person that is money hungry and gets what he wants. I'm sure once the license are back into the afl hands he will see it that the sanfl will never get another cent off the power or the crows. then it will be good bye sanfl.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6592730178

[kickinit]

The SMA can do what they like mate, the Port and Crows are just tenants who while they're owned by the SANFL can do nothing about it, and even when they're no longer owned by the SANFL all they can do is move to another state or someone's back yard if they don't like the deal they get.
Under the original plan Port needed to get 5k more at Adelaide Oval per game than they need at Footy Pk to break even, its probably even worse now.
Its brought their death forward but it was imminent anyway.

The SMA can do what they want? do you know who the SMA report to? Do you know the government are trying to remodel the current SMA board?

The State Government is now seeking advice from the Crown Solicitor on whether it can remodel the SMA which has no government representative on its eight-man board.

Oh and the power will be around to until at least 2017

[kickinit]

You will have a similar deal to other clubs in the AFL, you will be much better off.
You are more than welcome to redevelop Alberton if you want, maybe for your crowds you would be better off with a 15,000 seat boutique stadium like GWS

will essendon be able to play this week?

[Jim05]

You will have a similar deal to other clubs in the AFL, you will be much better off.
You are more than welcome to redevelop Alberton if you want, maybe for your crowds you would be better off with a 15,000 seat boutique stadium like GWS

will essendon be able to play this week?

Yep and we will be around a lot longer than you.
Even with all this crap happening at the club we have almost got to 50,000 members and estimates are we will finish up with around 57,000.

[Wedgie]

The SMA can do what they like mate, the Port and Crows are just tenants who while they're owned by the SANFL can do nothing about it, and even when they're no longer owned by the SANFL all they can do is move to another state or someone's back yard if they don't like the deal they get.
Under the original plan Port needed to get 5k more at Adelaide Oval per game than they need at Footy Pk to break even, its probably even worse now.
Its brought their death forward but it was imminent anyway.

The SMA can do what they want? do you know who the SMA report to? Do you know the government are trying to remodel the current SMA board?

The State Government is now seeking advice from the Crown Solicitor on whether it can remodel the SMA which has no government representative on its eight-man board.

Oh and the power will be around to until at least 2017

The SMA are the governing body of everything to do with Adelaide oval, they report to themselves.
The fact the State Goverment is seeking advice from a Crown Solicitor and not doing anything themselves should tell you how much of a chance of anything changing is, be as much chance as me taking over after talking to a solicitor. The current state government wouldn't give a rats besides trying to pick up some votes with a token effort as they wont be there in 6 months time.
I agree the Power will be around till at least 2017 as the AFL will probably subsidise them for 5 years before they too get sick of it and move their license on.
Port are screwed and the SANFL will get stronger and stronger, its a great deal agreed to by all parties.

And I'll be sitting up in the stand enjoying a nice beer laughing my tits off knowing that my money is going to the SANFL and SACA.

[Macca19]

Port made the decision to move there, no one has forced them.

This is something new, Port fans blaming Adelaide oval before it is even built!

Both Port and particularly Adelaide have been highly critical of the information that has come out in regards to the running costs of the SMA, to what revenue streams they will get from holding games at AO. This isnt just a Port thing.

[kickinit]

You will have a similar deal to other clubs in the AFL, you will be much better off.
You are more than welcome to redevelop Alberton if you want, maybe for your crowds you would be better off with a 15,000 seat boutique stadium like GWS

will essendon be able to play this week?

Yep and we will be around a lot longer than you.
Even with all this crap happening at the club we have almost got to 50,000 members and estimates are we will finish up with around 57,000.

yeh how much did lance armstrong lose in the day he admitted to using drugs.

[Jim05]

the power and crows where both going to be better off when moving to adelaide oval under the original plan. But know the SMA are basically stealing tax payers money and blowing out the running cost of the oval it is really looking like it's not a good deal. A deal now the power, crows and government are trying to fix. The one good thing for the power and crows is once the afl buy back the license the SANFl are going to have to deal with Dimetriou, a person that is money hungry and gets what he wants. I'm sure once the license are back into the afl hands he will see it that the sanfl will never get another cent off the power or the crows. then it will be good bye sanfl.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6592730178

The AFL will never get control of AO just like they dont the MCG.
The SACA will always have a say in its running as will the SANFL