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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Backliner » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:40 pm

SAAFL would be good for Aldinga's current situation, won't happen. Sharks are building a strong club off field and hopefully things will improve on field as a result and maybe a little luck. A new soccer club starting at the club soon so will be Aussie rules, Soccer and Cricket from Shark park with Netball and Hockey next door. Growing area should be able to cater for all.

Foundations have been laid and hopefully continue to build for the Sharks.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:55 pm

Backliner wrote:SAAFL would be good for Aldinga's current situation, won't happen. Sharks are building a strong club off field and hopefully things will improve on field as a result and maybe a little luck. A new soccer club starting at the club soon so will be Aussie rules, Soccer and Cricket from Shark park with Netball and Hockey next door. Growing area should be able to cater for all.

Foundations have been laid and hopefully continue to build for the Sharks.


good news for the scheme of things

excuse my unrestricted use words here, am not forcing any issues only discussing what most are prob too scared to discuss...

hypothetical....

aldinga joins saafl in 2014 >> nek minnutt >> holy sh&t we're a chance for a premiership for the first time since 1993!!!!!!

its the year of the sharks!!! go the sharks!! and all those who love aldinga fc will be buzzing, the joint will be alive again.

BUT no stuff it - lets stay crap and aim for the 2025 sfl premiership instead, and the next 15 years all the efforts of our volunteers can go unrewarded, the players can have minimal hope, and the sharks in 2014 will aim to win 5 matches instead - yay!!!

NOTE: this is not projected at Aldinga themselves, it relates to all the little battlers in the sfl, & i also understand the logistics of such a move
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Backliner » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:17 pm

I'd love to see it happen and I'd support it, won't happen though. We had a chance a few years back to go to Hills Country - members rejected it due to juniors travelling (those former juniors travel to Langhorne creek nowadays ;)

A bunch of our B and C grade went to Flinders Uni Div 7 and Div 7R and played finals this year.
Our captains from 2008 have won flags at Kenilworth lately - Div 6 and Div 5
Rigby Barnes just won a flag at Encounter Bay.

Players can easily change leagues but clubs can't. It won't happen, so we have to improve where we can.

I'd say 14 or 15 clubs in the SFL consider themselves Div 1 clubs so 2 Divs won't happen.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:31 pm

Yep that's the answer. Reward the volunteers who are sticking through the hard times by then kicking them in the teeth and saying thanks but we would rather take the easy route to a Premiership.

Fact is Morphett Vale were 1 win from going down to Div 2, beating Happy Valley at Taylors Rd IIRC to stay up, and inside 4 years had turned it around to go on to win 4 on the trot. I'm sure that meant a lot more to people than just pissing off to an easier competition.

Your attitude smacks of the reason that some lower clubs will never climb the ladder, not just talking SFL here, and why you will always have big fish going to little ponds.

Seeing the players at your CLUB busting there gut to win week in week out is reward enough for most volunteers. I know the MOB (Morphies Old Boys) wouldn't get much interest out of beating SAAFL sides that they have no rivalry with and who have no interest in developing Junior footballers who bleed for their club.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Backliner » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:37 pm

Who's attitude? Are you referring to me ZC?
I've stayed loyal to the club since 2002 when plenty have come and gone and I've seen them get success elsewhere. Haven't always agreed with things but I haven't left for something easier.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:23 pm

I reckon the sfl is a league with...

a couple a saafl div 1 sides (maybe)
4 or 5 saafl div 2-3 sides
5 saafl div 4-6 sides
and the bottom 3 sides potentially saafl div 7 sides

it would kind of be a bit ludicrous to see a goodwood saints team play a houghton districts in our league
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:39 pm

Backliner wrote:Who's attitude? Are you referring to me ZC?
I've stayed loyal to the club since 2002 when plenty have come and gone and I've seen them get success elsewhere. Haven't always agreed with things but I haven't left for something easier.


Sorry mate, was referring to marbles. Well done on sticking it out but I don't see how moving to Div 7 would improve the club.

I imagine sponsorship from the local area would dry up as well with half the games being played on the other side of town.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Backliner » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:53 pm

Cheers ZC, all good. 2003 - 2005 A grade wasn't much fun at the Sharks on field, figure I got through that period and when we won our round 1 game in 2006 it was a great feeling. Current situation not as bad as back then, I also believe the comp is closer than it was and I'm personally optimistic for better things next year, as I said Sharks won't be moving anywhere so not really an issue tbh.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:00 am

Yank Man wrote:
marbles wrote:take this for a crazy idea...

aldinga join the saafl's division 7

crazy yeah, but how far away from adelaide is aldinga and how far away is angle vale? :)



Love your driving interest marbles. Facts are SFL has gate revenue and reduced affiliation fees. I hear your argument and yes they would be better off in SAAFL to gain some glory, but at the end of the day it's about keeping your club viable and that's what they do. For me going to Aldinga from MP would have been easier than going to AV, but AV were tough to beat so it's a no brainer. Money dictates SFL but it doesn't in Div 7 SAAFL. :lol:


That's because it is an amateur parklands competition
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby tigerpie » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:14 am

marbles wrote:
Backliner wrote:SAAFL would be good for Aldinga's current situation, won't happen. Sharks are building a strong club off field and hopefully things will improve on field as a result and maybe a little luck. A new soccer club starting at the club soon so will be Aussie rules, Soccer and Cricket from Shark park with Netball and Hockey next door. Growing area should be able to cater for all.

Foundations have been laid and hopefully continue to build for the Sharks.


good news for the scheme of things

excuse my unrestricted use words here, am not forcing any issues only discussing what most are prob too scared to discuss...

hypothetical....

aldinga joins saafl in 2014 >> nek minnutt >> holy sh&t we're a chance for a premiership for the first time since 1993!!!!!!

its the year of the sharks!!! go the sharks!! and all those who love aldinga fc will be buzzing, the joint will be alive again.

BUT no stuff it - lets stay crap and aim for the 2025 sfl premiership instead, and the next 15 years all the efforts of our volunteers can go unrewarded, the players can have minimal hope, and the sharks in 2014 will aim to win 5 matches instead - yay!!!

NOTE: this is not projected at Aldinga themselves, it relates to all the little battlers in the sfl, & i also understand the logistics of such a move

Marbles ya missing the point mate.
Where do you fit the juniors (the template for sustained success) in your grand plan?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:59 am

tigerpie wrote:
marbles wrote:
Backliner wrote:SAAFL would be good for Aldinga's current situation, won't happen. Sharks are building a strong club off field and hopefully things will improve on field as a result and maybe a little luck. A new soccer club starting at the club soon so will be Aussie rules, Soccer and Cricket from Shark park with Netball and Hockey next door. Growing area should be able to cater for all.

Foundations have been laid and hopefully continue to build for the SharksMarbles ya missing the point mate.
Where do you fit the juniors (the template for sustained success) in your grand plan?



This factor seems to be lost on many in the SAAFL. Happy Valley and most clubs in the SFL are similar in that our A grade squad only has 4 imports to top up a squad of junior players that developed through our system. Of these, only one carried full points this year and one carried zero points. Without a strong junior set up, clubs will never have sustained success in the comp.

clubs that do not put resource, focus and development into their juniors are destined to be cherry picked by other clubs and will find themselves having to import heavily and that carries a big price tag and has potential to damage the fabric of a club. For all its faults, the SFL is a good model that works, keeps costs in check and provides the opportunity for all to be really involved at all levels by having these groups train, play and develop together and play in front of reasonable crowds week in week out.

I'd far rather be in this system than travelling all over the place and stretching resources even further than they are currently.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:47 am

afc9798 wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
marbles wrote:
Backliner wrote:SAAFL would be good for Aldinga's current situation, won't happen. Sharks are building a strong club off field and hopefully things will improve on field as a result and maybe a little luck. A new soccer club starting at the club soon so will be Aussie rules, Soccer and Cricket from Shark park with Netball and Hockey next door. Growing area should be able to cater for all.

Foundations have been laid and hopefully continue to build for the SharksMarbles ya missing the point mate.
Where do you fit the juniors (the template for sustained success) in your grand plan?



This factor seems to be lost on many in the SAAFL. Happy Valley and most clubs in the SFL are similar in that our A grade squad only has 4 imports to top up a squad of junior players that developed through our system. Of these, only one carried full points this year and one carried zero points. Without a strong junior set up, clubs will never have sustained success in the comp.

clubs that do not put resource, focus and development into their juniors are destined to be cherry picked by other clubs and will find themselves having to import heavily and that carries a big price tag and has potential to damage the fabric of a club. For all its faults, the SFL is a good model that works, keeps costs in check and provides the opportunity for all to be really involved at all levels by having these groups train, play and develop together and play in front of reasonable crowds week in week out.

I'd far rather be in this system than travelling all over the place and stretching resources even further than they are currently.


well obviously aldinga cant move their juniors to the MSJFL, its obviously not possible for the sharks to put A-Grade in saafl

but a marion or flagstaff hill?? what is the most southern club in the MSJFL?

suddenly flagstaff could be a chance for a A-Grade flag since 1985!!! Oh my god get on board!!!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby MatteeG » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:14 pm

marbles wrote:but a marion or flagstaff hill?? what is the most southern club in the MSJFL?

suddenly flagstaff could be a chance for a A-Grade flag since 1985!!! Oh my god get on board!!!


Ahh marbles.....we were a win away from an A Grade GF 2 years ago mate. Won the B grade this year, which I reckon would be no less a standard than Div 7 A grade (probably a lot better). Most SFL clubs are community based, if we moved to say a comp where we had to play at Houghton, or Salisbury, we'd lose half the playing list. As afc said, although the flaws are there the SFL is a brilliant setup where the juniors and seniors belong to one club..
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:17 pm

marbles wrote:
suddenly flagstaff could be a chance for a A-Grade flag since 1985!!! Oh my god get on board!!!


And they wern't a chance when they made the Prelim Final 2 years ago?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:21 pm

they were no chance. your only a chance to win a granny when your in the granny :P

if ya reserves won then somethings goods happening up there, good stuff well done
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:26 pm

marbles wrote:
afc9798 wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
marbles wrote:



This factor seems to be lost on many in the SAAFL. Happy Valley and most clubs in the SFL are similar in that our A grade squad only has 4 imports to top up a squad of junior players that developed through our system. Of these, only one carried full points this year and one carried zero points. Without a strong junior set up, clubs will never have sustained success in the comp.

clubs that do not put resource, focus and development into their juniors are destined to be cherry picked by other clubs and will find themselves having to import heavily and that carries a big price tag and has potential to damage the fabric of a club. For all its faults, the SFL is a good model that works, keeps costs in check and provides the opportunity for all to be really involved at all levels by having these groups train, play and develop together and play in front of reasonable crowds week in week out.

I'd far rather be in this system than travelling all over the place and stretching resources even further than they are currently.


well obviously aldinga cant move their juniors to the MSJFL, its obviously not possible for the sharks to put A-Grade in saafl

but a marion or flagstaff hill?? what is the most southern club in the MSJFL?

suddenly flagstaff could be a chance for a A-Grade flag since 1985!!! Oh my god get on board!!!


They would have to drop their U/16 team as Metro South does not cater for anything above U/14
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Mr Beefy » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:40 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
They would have to drop their U/16 team as Metro South does not cater for anything above U/14

They might be next year....
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:10 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:
Look Good In Leather wrote:
They would have to drop their U/16 team as Metro South does not cater for anything above U/14

They might be next year....


"Might" hardly makes an attractive competition

Even if the teams come back from Metro West, only 5 clubs fielded that grade last year (Unley-Mercedes, Plympton, PHOS Camden, Goodwood Saints & Mitcham). Add in Aldinga and it is still only a 6 team comp, maybe with Unley, Plympton & PHOS Camden's second sides it might get to 9, but I cannot see them accepting Aldinga - we have seen what happens when a scare campaign happens around Edwardstown travelling to Aldinga maybe once a year, image what would happen if they definitely had to travel there once, maybe twice!!

Don't worry, there are much bigger issues down on the plains than we have here in the SFL, I cannot see any of our clubs in a rush to join that disjointed system.

Although, apparently every team gets to win a premiership, so why wouldn't our clubs be rushing to be part of that - imagine the pride in sticking that Division 6 or 7 premiership up on your wall!

Let's face it, Rostrevor won the SAAFL premiership this year, Reynella won the SFL, Uraidla won the HFL, Encounter Bay won the GSFL, all the rest in those comps are also rans
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:26 pm

So what year are Christies Beach aiming to win the flag??
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:30 pm

marbles wrote:So what year are Christies Beach aiming to win the flag??


ASAP

At least with a decent season, you can be in with a chance.

Div 6 teams are 5 years away even being allowed to compete for the premiership, and that would require qualifying for 5 minor grand finals in a row
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