Rd 16 Sturt v North

[Ecky]

Didn't I include enough decimal figures for you, Purch?

[G]

BPBRP you are a bit harsh on McIntyre. Against Norwood he kept a fairly handy player in Bown to about 6 touches and collected 13 marks himself into the bargain.
I admit that against Port thats as bad as I've seen him play but there was nothing too wrong with his Norwood game.
-ps. This opinion was backed up by the Crows spotter and report from the Norwood game.

[BPBRB]

BPBRP you are a bit harsh on McIntyre. Against Norwood he kept a fairly handy player in Bown to about 6 touches and collected 13 marks himself into the bargain.
I admit that against Port thats as bad as I've seen him play but there was nothing too wrong with his Norwood game.
-ps. This opinion was backed up by the Crows spotter and report from the Norwood game.

His first quarter against Nwd was terrible and the rest of his game was average at best - helped by the fact it was wet and he was able to keep up with his opponent. If you and the Crows "spotter" think he was okay then so be it but lets face it the Crows haven't exactly made smart selections of recent times so it would no suprise to see them give him a game this week!

[G]

On last weeks game he'd have NO HOPE of a call up. Some of his blues on sunday had to be seen to be believed.

[Blue Boy]

BPBRP you are a bit harsh on McIntyre. Against Norwood he kept a fairly handy player in Bown to about 6 touches and collected 13 marks himself into the bargain.
I admit that against Port thats as bad as I've seen him play but there was nothing too wrong with his Norwood game.
-ps. This opinion was backed up by the Crows spotter and report from the Norwood game.

His first quarter against Nwd was terrible and the rest of his game was average at best - helped by the fact it was wet and he was able to keep up with his opponent. If you and the Crows "spotter" think he was okay then so be it but lets face it the Crows haven't exactly made smart selections of recent times so it would no suprise to see them give him a game this week!

I refuse to say I agree with you

[therisingblues]

The battle for second! This far into the season that makes this a huge game. With Glenelg and Eagles facing off for the right to challenge for a top three berth, what a great weekend for SANFL footy. North would be very hungry after that effort against the Magpies, and Sturt have come off their easiest win for the season. I think the Roosters should start favourites given the frequency of champion sides that bounce back after shock losses. North are a great side, there is no denying that, and those problems they had last weekend surely will get ironed out this week leading up to the big game. Sturt will need to perform better than they did against the Panthers to win this, our second biggest if not our biggest test to date. I'd much rather get the Roosters after a soft win than the unexpected shellacking they copped from Port Adelaide. Both sides should be at their best to provide one of the classic games of SANFL from 2007. Too soon to pick a winner, will need to see the line ups etc. but at this early stage, the heart says Sturt to win by less than 10 points.

[am Bays]

Without doubt game of the round. Should be a beauty - harder to pick than a broken nose.....B Both sides have a lot to play for, North it is about redemption, Sturt - for those lingering sceptics - time to prove they are a real deal....

[johntheclaret]

I'd play this side:

F Wundke, Gill, Ladhams (if attitude is right and also is fit?)
HF Younie, Alleway, Motlop (if attitude is right and also is fit?)
C Ryswyck (if fit?), Sporn, Bamford
HB Coulter, Schubert, Ivens
B Grose, McIntyre (has to come good eventually), Delvins

Ruck O'Hara, Howard, Allan

Interchange Wakelin, Krieg, Kaesler.

In: Schubert/Delvins/Ryswyk (if fit) and atttidue and mental toughness for all 21!
Out: Perrie/Hart/B. White and the prima donna attitude for a few!

Weatherley needs another run in the two's plus he got reported for absolutely smashing a blokes face in yesterday so he will miss at least one?

Perrie will go back to the Cows
Brett White has broken his hand (bad luck to him again!)
Hart - despite being named in the paper in North's best against Port???, he is past it and we have been winning without him - given that 3 of our losses have been the only 3 games he has played!

I originally put a footnote against Weatherley for that reason, and then checked the Rnd 14 reports and saw that they weren't up before the beak for about 2 weeks so thought the same would apply to Weatherley. (don't really know the rules governing reports that wel though)

Thought Perrie did ok when he moved up front, and decided I was fed up of giving Motlop one more chance. Might do both, Lads (for his attitude as weel as fitness) and McIntyre (for his form), a bit of good for a run in the two's.

Don't think McIntyre has done much for us since he came back and might just need a few Magoo games to get his form back. Also thought Coulter wasn't on fire (not that anyone really was on Saturday) and felt that Gallman and Cubillo have both done a good job this year.

Agree 100% about Schuey and Delvins though. Jars has to bring them back this week. Also thought Gallman did a pretty good job on Chambers last time IIRC.

[johntheclaret]

North will win by plenty,

JTC...

What ??

[johntheclaret]

lets face it the Crows haven't exactly made smart selections of recent times so it would no suprise to see them give him a game this week!

If they do, I bet they don't play him at FF

[youngster]

I don't recall north fans saying we will brush you off easily Jimmy. Couold be wrong though.

Well, one has already...

[johntheclaret]

Think Sturt would start favourites for this one. anyone who thinks Sturt still have something to prove are kidding themselves. They have done that already this year. If they lose this week sceptics will jump on the bandwagon and say they aren't the real deal after all. I didn't hear too much of that point to Centrals when Sturt beat them.

Every team is going to have a bad day at the office and Sturt, no doubt, will have one before the end of the year. I hope it is this week, but for that to happen north are going to have to be more fired up than they have been.

North have been cruising for some weeks now and seem to have lost, (that is if they ever had it), that killer punch.

We beat Norwood, in a mud pile that didnt do anything for good footy, with two 7 minute bursts that effectively won the game. sure they battled hard in the rain, but only in a way that stopped the Legs, who outscored us in the 2nd half. We should have killed Westies, but instead we gave them a 7 or 8 goal start, and then played blitzkreig footy for around 1 and a 1/2 quarters before taking the foot off the peddle and let them back in, to out score us again.

South was the same, wher we won by 5 goals when we should have won by 15. Last week we did the same and gave Port a 7 goal start only this time we were up against a much more hungrier and more skillful side than Westies. Result, we were found wanting.

Lets forget the excuses about injuries against West. They were 7 up before injuries had any effect on the game. Forget the team selection (ludicrous as it was) against Port. We gave them a 7, or 8 or whatever it was, goal start but even when we made changes we still couldn't get back at them.

Our best form has been when we had the quality youngsters in the backs and 3 talls up front and a settled team (forced on us by injuries to the a team players). Let's look at the two form teams in the league now, Centrals have had a consistent team making the minimum number of changes, and Sturt, like north of a few weeks ago, using quality young players in the back.

Jars has to go back to the drawing board, look at who fought for us when we needed them and pick a team that is hungry for North, and not one that is happy to cruise through a game without really putting a sweat in.

[Hondo]

North have been cruising for some weeks now and seem to have lost, (that is if they ever had it), that killer punch.

We beat Norwood, in a mud pile that didnt do anything for good footy, with two 7 minute bursts that effectively won the game. sure they battled hard in the rain, but only in a way that stopped the Legs, who outscored us in the 2nd half. We should have killed Westies, but instead we gave them a 7 or 8 goal start, and then played blitzkreig footy for around 1 and a 1/2 quarters before taking the foot off the peddle and let them back in, to out score us again.

Jars has to go back to the drawing board, look at who fought for us when we needed them and pick a team that is hungry for North, and not one that is happy to cruise through a game without really putting a sweat in.

Sorry JTC but has to be said ... what a depressing view of our seaon

I think you are having a dig at Benny Hart there (not sure) but, if you are, I was at the game and his commitment was 100% so no need for veiled digs at older players down back. In fact, I couldn't see many 'cruisers' out there either. We got caught napping a bit at the start and before they knew it they were 8 goals down - but give some credit to PAM who played v well from what I saw at the game. Easy to make big statements when you weren't at the game.

When last we played the Rennaisance them, we beat them by 50 points and do you remember what we did at Alberton? We have almost the same % as Sturt and have only lost 4 games all year, 2 of those to Centrals.

Last weekend was 1 game JTC .... a disappointing one .... but still 1 game. Time to regroup and re-focus? Yes. Time to return to the drawing board? No. We won't make minor premier but so long as we finish top 3 and have most of our players fit we will be a better chance when it really matters than last year.

If we have 3 weeks in a row like last weekend then you might be on to something.

[MagicKiwi]

Agree Hondo. Hart was in my top three. While appearing a bit match unfit, his experience really showed I thought. He did the job. Just about everyone made a clanger on Sunday.

[Wedgie]

STURT v NORTH
2.00pm, Sunday July 22nd @ Unley Oval
All Time Record : Played 233, Sturt won 119, North won 109, Drawn 5
All Time @ Unley : Played 80, Sturt won 51, North won 26, Drawn 3
All Recent Encounters : North have won last 6 and 8 of the last 10
Recent @ Unley : North won the last match, Sturt the previous 4

Recent Results
2007 Rd 6 May 12 @ Prospect North 15.10.100 d Sturt 8.6.54 by 46pts
2006 Rd 12 June 23 @ Adelaide North 19.20.134 d Sturt 14.9.93 by 41pts
2006 Rd 4 April 21 @ Adelaide North 27.16.178 d Sturt 13.8.86 by 92pts
2005 Elim Sept 11 @ Adelaide North 15.9.99 d Sturt 14.8.92 by 7pts
2005 Rd 21 Aug 21 @ Prospect North 13.17.95 d Sturt 12.7.79 by 16pts
2005 Rd 13 June 25 @ Prospect North 16.12.108 d Sturt 11.15.81 by 27pts
2005 Rd 4 April 15 @ Adelaide Sturt 10.13.73 d North 11.5.71 by 2pts
Last Draw
1997 Rd 15 July 12 @ Adelaide Sturt 11.8.74 v North 10.14.74

RECORDS North on left, Sturt on Right
Highest Score 27.18.180 (Rd 16 Aug11 1990 @Pr) 25.26.176 (Rd 4 Apr 22 2001 @Un)
Lowest Score 2.6.18 (Chal F Oct 8 1919 @Ad) 2.4.16 (Rd 10 July12 1920 @Ad)
Highest Losing Score 19.14.128 (Rd 19 Aug17 1980 @FP) 18.11.119 (Rd 1 Apr 22 1939 @Pr)
Lowest Winning Score 5.10.40 (Rd 9 June28 1913 @Ad) 3.5.23 (Chall F Oct 8 1919 @Ad)
Biggest Winning Margin 160pts (Rd 16 Aug11 1990 @Pr) 127pts (Rd 4 Apr 22 2001 @Un)

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Current odds:
Sturt $1.80
North $2.00

[Cambridge Clarrie]

Let's hope it's round 4 2001 revisited...
(I think there's a greater chance of us revisiting round 15 1997 though!)

[johntheclaret]

North have been cruising for some weeks now and seem to have lost, (that is if they ever had it), that killer punch.

We beat Norwood, in a mud pile that didnt do anything for good footy, with two 7 minute bursts that effectively won the game. sure they battled hard in the rain, but only in a way that stopped the Legs, who outscored us in the 2nd half. We should have killed Westies, but instead we gave them a 7 or 8 goal start, and then played blitzkreig footy for around 1 and a 1/2 quarters before taking the foot off the peddle and let them back in, to out score us again.

Jars has to go back to the drawing board, look at who fought for us when we needed them and pick a team that is hungry for North, and not one that is happy to cruise through a game without really putting a sweat in.

Sorry JTC but has to be said ... what a depressing view of our seaon

I think you are having a dig at Benny Hart there (not sure) but, if you are, I was at the game and his commitment was 100% so no need for veiled digs at older players down back. In fact, I couldn't see many 'cruisers' out there either. We got caught napping a bit at the start and before they knew it they were 8 goals down - but give some credit to PAM who played v well from what I saw at the game. Easy to make big statements when you weren't at the game.

When last we played the Rennaisance them, we beat them by 50 points and do you remember what we did at Alberton? We have almost the same % as Sturt and have only lost 4 games all year, 2 of those to Centrals.

Last weekend was 1 game JTC .... a disappointing one .... but still 1 game. Time to regroup and re-focus? Yes. Time to return to the drawing board? No. We won't make minor premier but so long as we finish top 3 and have most of our players fit we will be a better chance when it really matters than last year.

If we have 3 weeks in a row like last weekend then you might be on to something.

Not trying to paint a picture of doom and gloom at all Hondo. I don't think it matters if I was at the game or not, I have only quoted facts. The West game, fact, the south game, fact and last week, fact. Look at the qtr by qtr scoreboard for each of these, and the Norwood game and the facts stand for themselves. On paper, North are a mile and a half in front of West and South, and we should have buried both but we didn't.

Sure, I am very happy about both wins and I hope we will be in the top 3 come finals, but that wasn't my point. Look at what Centrals, Eagles and Sturt have done to these sides. That is where we need to be.

I wasn't having a go at Benny Hart's effort or at him at all for that matter. My point was that when we had a settled back line ( or relatively so), made up mainly of youngsters, we looked a better team and I was comparing that to what has happened at Sturt, who have performed beyond most peoples expectations. I was also trying to draw a comparision with Centrals, in so much that, and correct me if I am wrong (enter spelly), they have maintained a pretty consistent team with the least number of players used.

Last weeks selection was a joke. Why would we bring Ben Hart in, when he has'nt payed for weeks, instead of giving him a run in the Two's, and play Perrie (yes I know the news)at CHB, at the expense of Delvins and Schubert, both who have has a pretty good season so far. Read the posts on here and on the Roost by those that were there, and you will see how many have said they thought Ben ran out of steam and looked like he was lacking some match practice.

PS... Ben Hart has been a great player both in the AFL and the SANFL, he still has quality and his work on the coaching side is one of the reasons why the kids have done so well IMHO, but lets not pretend that he is not in the twilight of his career.

[johntheclaret]

I don't recall north fans saying we will brush you off easily Jimmy. Couold be wrong though.

Well, one has already...

Yeah but it was Wedgie, and even he is the first to admit he knows nothing about footy

[Hondo]

JTC

You are relying on what you have heard re Benny Hart. At the ground I sensed some animosity towards him so all I can say is be careful what you read, if you are going to use it as the basis for comments of your own.

Re-read the comments on this site and my own (also people who were there). He didn't look like he lacked any match fitness to me and ran the game out well - he was one of the few running up and down each end of the ground in the last quarter. The Advertiser had him best for North - maybe a stretch but I thought he was right up there.

Unfair to be singling him out re Sunday's loss IMO.

[Blue Boy]

How are the sides shapin up ???

I havent heard to much except for the usual AFL player talk @ this stage !!!