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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:57 am

Umpire could’ve handled it a lot better instead of going back and forward with the batsmen which IMO only served to inflame the situation.

For those playing along at home, it went along the lines of...

Player hits ball to mid off, stands ground, catch taken.
Umpire gives him out
Player declares it was a bump ball and he smashed it into the pitch.
Umpire tells him you’re on report for disputing a decision
Player as walking off says something
Umpire awards 5 penalty runs and tells him he’s on report again.
Player says something else as he continues walking off
Umpire awards 5 penalty runs.

All this occurred within the space of 20-30 seconds.

Then at tea I’m told both sides have received an official warning anything else happens they’re all going in the book and more 5 run penalties will be applied. He was happy to tell me how he punished a side 20 runs in a semi once!

Umpire told me he was ready to pull stumps and walk off.. **** me dead.

As a club we will deal with the player internally and we will manage this - certainly he’s got to be held accountable for his part, but I’ll stand by my convictions that the penalty runs were and are a disgrace.. umpires should not be afforded that level of power over a game and the potential outcome.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:40 am

Where do you think the PD in PDCA comes from?

It's the Pearce, Don CA
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:11 am

Gee the Pines vs Virginia game could've been very different if Secca's was available for day 2.

A 146 run 3rd wicket partnership ensured a 40 run win to the Gardens over NEK.

Angle Vale were admirable in defeat as some late order slow batting cost them in the end, I'm not sure why Justin didn't bat but could of well been the difference, he wouldn't of clogged up 50 balls and an hour for 11 runs.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:30 am

The Old Fellow wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:PDCA umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them!?!

How on earth does a club hit MORE runs than the opposition and then lose the game because an umpire decides to apply "penalty runs".

What a disgrace... fancy punishing a whole side over what? An umpire forgetting its not about them?!?


Is it the umpires fault for following the Laws of the game or is it the players fault for acting and/or making comment in breach of the Laws? The penalty runs are given at the time of the offence so unless it was the last wicket the batting team knows where they stand.

Assuming you where not there like me its all hear say what the player did or said. Umpires like all people have different tolerance levels so some will be quicker to act than others.

Your comment 'PDCA is umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them' - how many umpires have you had this season and how many of them have actually umpired that way? It is a huge general statement. I would always rather have a neutral umpire than the opposition umpire especially if they bat second.


I was there, the umpire is a cheat who was probably paid off by the opposition.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:31 am

no_remorse28 wrote:
The Old Fellow wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:PDCA umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them!?!

How on earth does a club hit MORE runs than the opposition and then lose the game because an umpire decides to apply "penalty runs".

What a disgrace... fancy punishing a whole side over what? An umpire forgetting its not about them?!?


Is it the umpires fault for following the Laws of the game or is it the players fault for acting and/or making comment in breach of the Laws? The penalty runs are given at the time of the offence so unless it was the last wicket the batting team knows where they stand.

Assuming you where not there like me its all hear say what the player did or said. Umpires like all people have different tolerance levels so some will be quicker to act than others.

Your comment 'PDCA is umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them' - how many umpires have you had this season and how many of them have actually umpired that way? It is a huge general statement. I would always rather have a neutral umpire than the opposition umpire especially if they bat second.




I was there, the umpire is a cheat who was probably paid off by the opposition.
In fact I seen him paid off, he asked for more than was originally offered
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Trader » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:37 am

no_remorse28 wrote:
The Old Fellow wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:PDCA umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them!?!

How on earth does a club hit MORE runs than the opposition and then lose the game because an umpire decides to apply "penalty runs".

What a disgrace... fancy punishing a whole side over what? An umpire forgetting its not about them?!?


Is it the umpires fault for following the Laws of the game or is it the players fault for acting and/or making comment in breach of the Laws? The penalty runs are given at the time of the offence so unless it was the last wicket the batting team knows where they stand.

Assuming you where not there like me its all hear say what the player did or said. Umpires like all people have different tolerance levels so some will be quicker to act than others.

Your comment 'PDCA is umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them' - how many umpires have you had this season and how many of them have actually umpired that way? It is a huge general statement. I would always rather have a neutral umpire than the opposition umpire especially if they bat second.


I was there, the umpire is a cheat who was probably paid off by the opposition.


Geez, you'd hope PDCA don't have a social media policy!
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby the joker » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:39 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Gee the Pines vs Virginia game could've been very different if Secca's was available for day 2.

A 146 run 3rd wicket partnership ensured a 40 run win to the Gardens over NEK.

Angle Vale were admirable in defeat as some late order slow batting cost them in the end, I'm not sure why Justin didn't bat but could of well been the difference, he wouldn't of clogged up 50 balls and an hour for 11 runs.
The pines game wouldn’t had changed if Secca’s was there. They would have enforced the follow on.


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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:39 am

no_remorse28 wrote:I was there, the umpire is a cheat who was probably paid off by the opposition.


The umpire is a screw, he loves the controversy and being the centre of attention for all the wrong reasons, he's actually not a bad bloke socially but gee he is painful when it comes to officiating cricket, he used to drive around to the local lower grade games to hand out fines for coloured socks and non conforming shoes.

Secondly, I can't see ATCO being that desperate for a win that they'd bribe an ump, especially Don.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:43 am

Has a screw loose, can't believe they let him officiate anything, he would find it hard enough tying his shoe laces. Maybe he needed the pay off to afford Velcro shoes.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:45 am

the joker wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Gee the Pines vs Virginia game could've been very different if Secca's was available for day 2.

A 146 run 3rd wicket partnership ensured a 40 run win to the Gardens over NEK.

Angle Vale were admirable in defeat as some late order slow batting cost them in the end, I'm not sure why Justin didn't bat but could of well been the difference, he wouldn't of clogged up 50 balls and an hour for 11 runs.
The pines game wouldn’t had changed if Secca’s was there. They would have enforced the follow on.


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Please don't ruin my story.

Virginia would've scored more runs than they did and having them two operating at the same time would be tough going for the batting team, especially when Nato's up and running.

I was more looking at the 10 rpo that they were going at in the 2nd dig.

You guys are up and about, got the bye coming up, Dublin and then start getting to the softer part of the draw.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:52 am

Matt Bedgegood has approached an ATCA club in the Northern suburbs about an assistant role he was offered prior to season start. Seems he is done with the cheating in PDCA
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:47 pm

Geez Louise go away for a couple of hours and come back to this! :lol:

Well arvoteapiggy will be happy it's not women's cricket talk at least! :D

Let's move on, I've moved on.. I have no issues with Don or the umpiring fraternity and ATCO are a good bunch of lads, just really ordinary sledging game.

North Pines travelling well in Grade 1, get around 'em.

NEK with a couple of players in the magoo's who might help in the 1s is interesting.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:56 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:Matt Bedgegood has approached an ATCA club in the Northern suburbs about an assistant role he was offered prior to season start. Seems he is done with the cheating in PDCA

Pfft, wouldn't have thought.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby no_remorse28 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:26 pm

The Bedge wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Matt Bedgegood has approached an ATCA club in the Northern suburbs about an assistant role he was offered prior to season start. Seems he is done with the cheating in PDCA

Pfft, wouldn't have thought.

Forgot to mention they knocked him back
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:28 pm

no_remorse28 wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:Matt Bedgegood has approached an ATCA club in the Northern suburbs about an assistant role he was offered prior to season start. Seems he is done with the cheating in PDCA

Pfft, wouldn't have thought.

Forgot to mention they knocked him back

Pfft, wouldn't have thought that either :lol:
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:31 pm

The Bedge wrote:Geez Louise go away for a couple of hours and come back to this! :lol:

Well arvoteapiggy will be happy it's not women's cricket talk at least! :D

Let's move on, I've moved on.. I have no issues with Don or the umpiring fraternity and ATCO are a good bunch of lads, just really ordinary sledging game.

North Pines travelling well in Grade 1, get around 'em.

NEK with a couple of players in the magoo's who might help in the 1s is interesting.

Would've thought there was only one or two on the lip from ATCO looking at their list, I reckon there's only only one that I've had words with.

Cost you top spot mate, Grade 2 is going to be a humdinger of a season, except for the Units, they'll get their noses out in front and run on with it.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:43 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Cost you top spot mate, Grade 2 is going to be a humdinger of a season, except for the Units, they'll get their noses out in front and run on with it.

Yeah not just top spot, could potentially cost us in the long run - looks a very even competition this season, not much between all sides. Even Craigmore although have started slow, have capable cricketers it wont be long until they're on the board.

I see Woody bowled last week after claims he wasn't bowling this year, reckon that gives Units a huge boost, but still think OTH the side to beat.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:48 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Cost you top spot mate, Grade 2 is going to be a humdinger of a season, except for the Units, they'll get their noses out in front and run on with it.

Yeah not just top spot, could potentially cost us in the long run - looks a very even competition this season, not much between all sides. Even Craigmore although have started slow, have capable cricketers it wont be long until they're on the board.

I see Woody bowled last week after claims he wasn't bowling this year, reckon that gives Units a huge boost, but still think OTH the side to beat.

Woody isn't going to not bowl, I was surprised that Smithfield got up over the Goats .

It looks like each team has 3 or 4 match winners, whoever fires out of them I guess will win on the day.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Old Fellow » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:18 pm

Trader wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:
The Old Fellow wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:PDCA umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them!?!

How on earth does a club hit MORE runs than the opposition and then lose the game because an umpire decides to apply "penalty runs".

What a disgrace... fancy punishing a whole side over what? An umpire forgetting its not about them?!?


Is it the umpires fault for following the Laws of the game or is it the players fault for acting and/or making comment in breach of the Laws? The penalty runs are given at the time of the offence so unless it was the last wicket the batting team knows where they stand.

Assuming you where not there like me its all hear say what the player did or said. Umpires like all people have different tolerance levels so some will be quicker to act than others.

Your comment 'PDCA is umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them' - how many umpires have you had this season and how many of them have actually umpired that way? It is a huge general statement. I would always rather have a neutral umpire than the opposition umpire especially if they bat second.


I was there, the umpire is a cheat who was probably paid off by the opposition.


Geez, you'd hope PDCA don't have a social media policy!


PDCA does have the policy. Remember the Froffies incident.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby heater31 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:29 pm

The Old Fellow wrote:
Trader wrote:
no_remorse28 wrote:
The Old Fellow wrote:[quote="no_remorse28"]PDCA umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them!?!

How on earth does a club hit MORE runs than the opposition and then lose the game because an umpire decides to apply "penalty runs".

What a disgrace... fancy punishing a whole side over what? An umpire forgetting its not about them?!?


Is it the umpires fault for following the Laws of the game or is it the players fault for acting and/or making comment in breach of the Laws? The penalty runs are given at the time of the offence so unless it was the last wicket the batting team knows where they stand.

Assuming you where not there like me its all hear say what the player did or said. Umpires like all people have different tolerance levels so some will be quicker to act than others.

Your comment 'PDCA is umpired by a pack of yahoos who think the game is about them' - how many umpires have you had this season and how many of them have actually umpired that way? It is a huge general statement. I would always rather have a neutral umpire than the opposition umpire especially if they bat second.


I was there, the umpire is a cheat who was probably paid off by the opposition.


Geez, you'd hope PDCA don't have a social media policy!


PDCA does have the policy. Remember the Froffies incident.[/quote]Might be time to reconsider some of the statements posted earlier.....
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