Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby Grahaml » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:22 pm

But the youth policy was a response to poor performances by the older players at the time. The rot had set in well before that. I think the problem started soon after the 95/96 win when we lost a few of the better players for one reason of another. Nobes to work, Brayshaw to radio, Webber to injury, McIntyre to beer and food, Blewett to more national duties. Too many of the core of that team weren't replaced by able players and soon enough we were left with Blewett and Lehmann the only bats performing regularly and the bowlers coming and going after a promising season or two.

I think by the time we realised there was a problem it was already too late to do anything about it, and there was a time of 4-5 seasons where we were ok, but just treading water, and now people are expecting the SACA to change things each time things go wrong. We need to have a bit of faith in the SACA and let them just do what they think is right without expecting a head to roll each time we have a crap season. Let's assess the situation when the current plan is shown to be wrong. IE, if and when Cosgrove, Delmont, Borgas, Manou, Cullen, Bailey, Tait, Cameron, Plant, Adcock and the like get shown up as sub-standard state cricketers and not just inexperienced cricketers.
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby jackpot jim » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:05 pm

I think that one of the Major reasons for the Lack of Talented young Cricketers coming through the system can be contributed to the increasing lure of the BIG $$$$$$$s that can be made in AFL.
Lets face it, MANY of the young Talented Lads out there striving for an AFL or an SANFL career are multi-talented and are/were Very good cricket/Tennis players until they became fully committed to Footy and having to give away their summer sport.
When forced to make a Choice between Footy and Cricket, i would think that a Very Large % (90% ?) would choose Footy because the Money is very Lucrative for young blokes even at SANFL level. Does anyone get paid at District cricket level apart from the state contracted players ? The other major reason for choosing footy is that every week in footy season there are 352 players running around at the Top level in AFL compared to only 11 players in Cricket (Representing Australia) or 66 players representing State sides.
ie. Footy offers a hugely better opportunity to make it to the top level and make some decent $$$$$s as well.

Until not only SACA but the rest of the states can arrest this high % flood of talent to the football codes, i feel Australia will struggle to maintain there lofty position in world cricket.
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby Stumps » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:32 pm

Grahaml wrote:But the youth policy was a response to poor performances by the older players at the time. The rot had set in well before that. I think the problem started soon after the 95/96 win when we lost a few of the better players for one reason of another. Nobes to work, Brayshaw to radio, Webber to injury, McIntyre to beer and food, Blewett to more national duties. Too many of the core of that team weren't replaced by able players and soon enough we were left with Blewett and Lehmann the only bats performing regularly and the bowlers coming and going after a promising season or two.

I think by the time we realised there was a problem it was already too late to do anything about it, and there was a time of 4-5 seasons where we were ok, but just treading water, and now people are expecting the SACA to change things each time things go wrong. We need to have a bit of faith in the SACA and let them just do what they think is right without expecting a head to roll each time we have a crap season. Let's assess the situation when the current plan is shown to be wrong. IE, if and when Cosgrove, Delmont, Borgas, Manou, Cullen, Bailey, Tait, Cameron, Plant, Adcock and the like get shown up as sub-standard state cricketers and not just inexperienced cricketers.



if this "youth policy" was what outed good solid consistent first class cricketers such as Jeff Vaughan, Ben Higgins, ben Johnson, Brett Swain then it wasnt a bright move IMO- all these cricketers had at least 2or 3 years left in them and were given the DCM too early- they could have assisted the young players - you need a mix of ages within a side, and other states have many more good consistent 25-33year olds than the SACA does
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby Dog_ger » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:54 pm

SACA is struggling to make our Great State a cricketing Legend....

A team that is feared.....

Only SACA Management can be blamed.

There is something that must be done, that has been overlooked...

Something is amiss with SACA.
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby locky801 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:55 pm

Dog_ger wrote:SACA is struggling to make our Great State a cricketing Legend....

A team that is feared.....

Only SACA Management can be blamed.

There is something that must be done, that has been overlooked...

Something is amiss with SACA.



yes you may well have hit the nail on the head
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby Dog_ger » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:32 am

Oh Dear....

They want to play AFL at this Great Ground.....

They may F*%@ that up, also.....?
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby Dog_ger » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:35 am

But if they can get 35,000 through the gates, it won't really matter.

Money solves all problems...!
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby the joker » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:52 am

it went wrong when they told justin langer he was not the right man to coach them. for starters he would have braught some hardness to the side. and most importantly we would have had a opening batter that would knuckle down when there strugling
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby Dog_ger » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:56 pm

Things started to go downhill when Darling got hit in the head by that infamous ball.

The Second time.

When the ball got lodged between his helmet protector and his cheek....

My GOD

His screams still echo around the shadows of Adelaide...........
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby locky801 » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:07 pm

Remember that one well Dog-ger probably one of the most sickening blows I have ever seen on the cricket field
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby stan » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:10 pm

locky801 wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:SACA is struggling to make our Great State a cricketing Legend....

A team that is feared.....

Only SACA Management can be blamed.

There is something that must be done, that has been overlooked...

Something is amiss with SACA.



yes you may well have hit the nail on the head


Something has been amiss with SACA for a while. Bizzare selection decisions for starters. But hey thats why pencils have erasers......
Not sure how to fix cricket in SA, but one thing is for sure when hard decisions are needed the SACA will show the true nature of the Jellyback.
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby locky801 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:14 pm

Guess when you look at it overall it hasn't been the same really since the great late David Hookes left
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby another grub » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:25 pm

Manou has to go....
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:27 pm

another grub wrote:Manou has to go....


lmao :lol:

Having said that Dizzy made a double hundred then got dropped :shock:
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby heater31 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:41 pm

another grub wrote:Manou has to go....


and make more runs.
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby locky801 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:18 am

another grub wrote:Manou has to go....




go where, hasn't he just come back :wink:
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby Ecky » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:31 am

Everyone needs to keep in mind that we have less than 1/10th the population of Australia, but are one of 6 states. So there will naturally be less talent coming through our ranks than the other states (except Tasmania).
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby am Bays » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:19 pm

Okay then Ecky how do you explain Tassie winning the shield last year?

And Australias performances at the Olympics where we can can consitantly outperform countries like Germany, France, Spain, Brazil, the UK, Canada etc in terms of medals. On a per head of population we out perform China, Russia and the US.

Success at the elite sport level is not based purely on popualtion (it is an important factor I'll grant you) but it can be overcome with good development programs, effective underpinning competitions (were SA is lacking IMO), good coaching, good admin, good talent ID and good support services.

Australia has the best high performacne sport models in the world no excuse for not getting the structures and frameworks in place to correct those.
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby stan » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:57 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Okay then Ecky how do you explain Tassie winning the shield last year?

And Australias performances at the Olympics where we can can consitantly outperform countries like Germany, France, Spain, Brazil, the UK, Canada etc in terms of medals. On a per head of population we out perform China, Russia and the US.

Success at the elite sport level is not based purely on popualtion (it is an important factor I'll grant you) but it can be overcome with good development programs, effective underpinning competitions (were SA is lacking IMO), good coaching, good admin, good talent ID and good support services.

Australia has the best high performacne sport models in the world no excuse for not getting the structures and frameworks in place to correct those.


You are right. Too bad SA dosent.
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Re: Where has Cricket gone Wrong for South Australia..?

Postby carey » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:42 pm

adcock as capt. somes it up 4 me where were going wrong !
you've gota keep on keep'n on .........
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