A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby Dirko » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:55 am

REB, on the Adelaide Now website its currently running at 53% in favour & 47% against.
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SORRY

Postby mal » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:06 am

I feel SORRY for those Aborigine kids who were seperated from thier familys.
Over a half a century if indigNATION of the 20th century occurred.


SCENARIO
Circa NOW 2007
We are invaded by another country
Thier ideologies of family life are different to ours
Within a time span they take away kids from thier parents .....
I cant imagine how I would feel losing a kid/kids under those circumstances.

Lionel Rose in a 3.37 minute song once sang a song produced by Jonny Young
That song was called I THANK YOU.
Words in that song include " Let me thank you for just being you."
Those words were stolen from too many kids last century
Lets hope todays indy peoples can appropriately say THANK YOU to RUDDS mob for
bringing the reperation process into effect.
Lets also hope RUDDS mob can honour as well.

A great day in Australian history.
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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby redandblack » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:11 am

Rudd's speech and the events of this morning will go down as one of the most momentous days in our history.

Decency has come to the Parliament after the mean, petty, small-minded attitudes of recent times.
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Re: SORRY

Postby westcoastpanther » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:11 am

So now that we've said sorry, will the bashings in Port Lincoln streets now stop...... :roll:
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Re: SORRY

Postby mal » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:15 am

westcoastpanther wrote:So now that we've said sorry, will the bashings in Port Lincoln streets now stop...... :roll:


Different subject.
Todays topic is saying SORRY for Aborigine children that were seperated from thier families.
Those seperations from about 1910 to about 1970 is what I feel SORRY for.
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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby JK » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:23 am

Have to say I agree with you RAB, thought Mr Rudd both spoke well and captured the emotion and magnitude of the occasion and the task ahead of us all.

I must also admit, that despite my political persuasions, I have a lot of time for Kevin Rudd.

Proof of the pudding is in the tasting I guess, so here's hoping each and every one of us can work together to help heal the pain, and take relations in this country to a previously unseen level.
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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:39 am

Rik E Boy wrote:On Brisbane TV, national nine news ran a phone poll about whether people agree with the apology. Only 24% supported the apology! Before I get up on the soapbox with a 'typical bloody Queenslanders' rant I would like to know if a similar poll was run on SA TV last night and what the results were.

24 percent!

regards,

REB


In other words 76% of people who watch National Nine News and bother to ring phone polls disagree with it. Nothing to worry about.
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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:40 am

redandblack wrote:Rudd's speech and the events of this morning will go down as one of the most momentous days in our history.

Decency has come to the Parliament after the mean, petty, small-minded attitudes of recent times.


But Wilson Tuckey is still there unfortunately.
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Re: SORRY

Postby bulldogproud » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:49 am

Mal, well said.
One of the most important days in our nation's history - one on which we show that we have matured as a nation and also have compassion and a heart. God Bless all those who have been through the suffering through the 20th Century.
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Re: SORRY

Postby Hardpuncher » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:03 am

What a joke
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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby redandblack » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:13 am

Yes, LL, and as irrelevant as always.
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Re: SORRY

Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:42 am

Now that it's done & dusted, I really do wonder why Howard could not just do it...
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Re: SORRY

Postby Psyber » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:52 am

Punk Rooster wrote:Now that it's done & dusted, I really do wonder why Howard could not just do it...

I think this what they were worried about - whether they were justified in being worried only time will tell.
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Re: SORRY

Postby redandblack » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:17 pm

Psyber, the front page of today's Australian has a story which makes it clear that today's apology has no bearing whatsoever on any compensation case.

Flogging a dead horse.
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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby BIG SEXY » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:47 pm

can anyone tell me what practical solutions this apology will offer the aboriginal population? will it help them get off the grog/glue/petrol? will it increase their life expectancy? will it stop the abuse of children in remote areas (and in rural and city areas)?
im sorry kids were taken away from their families, even if some of them were better off with the families they ended up with (not all, not most, SOME) but i would prefer to spend my time and effort helping the people get on track and become respected, contributing members of australian society.
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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby JK » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:50 pm

The war cabinet proposed by Kevin Rudd as a joint venture between the opposition and government is intended to make a significant change in this area, whereas in the past I'd imagine, lip-service is perhaps all that has been paid toward social issues.
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Re: A Sorry Saga, or the Saga of Sorry?

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:13 pm

The apology, all going well, will help the government to correct those problems you talk about Crushy.
The Aboriginal community can now take steps to put their trust issues in 'white fella' behind them and accept the support that is offered to them.
Whether or not this happens, I don't know. But at least it's a step forward.
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Re: SORRY

Postby evans01 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:14 pm

I thought the speech by the Prime Minister was amazing, the way he portrayed the apology was extremely well done................I think the government has done the right thing.....now lets hope many of the issues facing the indigenious communities can be addressed in a positive way and we as a nation can move forward for the benefit of all aussies regardless of race.....
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Re: SORRY

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:16 pm

Punk Rooster wrote:Now that it's done & dusted, I really do wonder why Howard could not just do it...


Howard was one of the greatest politcal opportunists that this country has ever seen (maybe alongside Billy Hughes) and a master of wedge politics. After Hanson stuck her hand up in 1996 Howard sniffed the change in the air and figured there was more votes in exploiting the divide (eg: calling those against him the cultural elite, chattering class etc) when it came to issue of race/racism in this country. He figured those that disagreed with him wouldn't vote for him anyway and he'd keep more swinging voters on side. The theory served him well for 11 years.
Didn't see him on TV in the house today alongside other former PMs Whitlam,Fraser, Hawke and Keating. He must have had a previous engagement :roll:
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Re: SORRY

Postby westcoastpanther » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:20 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Now that it's done & dusted, I really do wonder why Howard could not just do it...


Didn't see him on TV in the house today alongside other former PMs Whitlam,Fraser, Hawke and Keating. He must have had a previous engagement :roll:


Perhaps he's really not sorry.....
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