SAAFL C2 2008

[bandar]

It's actually bloody difficult to understand but basically none of the A grade can go down to 2's if they have played 2 finals which covers all of them so it's open slather between the the rest but with injuries fromn the weekend it will be difficult to move to many around.

[nuggety goodness]

It's actually bloody difficult to understand but basically none of the A grade can go down to 2's if they have played 2 finals which covers all of them so it's open slather between the the rest but with injuries fromn the weekend it will be difficult to move to many around.

so that's the A's out of the picture but with the magoos and the Cs right, if they have played more in the magoos they can't play in the lower grades yeah? that's what i understood. to be eligible for finals in a particular lower grade you would have had to play more games in that grade than the higher one...

so for example, if i were to play 6 games in the Cs but got called up to play Bs 7 or more times in the year that would make me ineligible to play finals for the Cs... make sense?!?

[Bubbula]

choad has a meaning yes and it pertains to a certian part of the male anatomy. quite interesting really, on the other question i should be right for Saturday yes and very keen however fit probably isn't the word.... i also heard we could be playing at St Marys park at 10:15, the time is fine but i heard the oval is bigger than thebby... struggle town for an old unfit man like myself... how about yourself young gazelle?

Yeh, Im feeling fit as ever!!! Havent been this fit since I went to Nam..

[bandar]

While both teams are playing they just need to qualify for the club e.g. 4 games. It won't really be an issue I reckon we'll just scrape 44 together and the best will be in the 2's.

As long as they aren't tied only to A's it's free interchange between while both sides are still playing.

[04 Premiership Coach]

so who are the real medal contenders for tonight?

i'm thinkin Rhino wielechowski from my boys, juct consistent performing all year.
if Chenoweth is the on baller i'm thinkin he might poll well but also have votes stolen from the other blokes, and maybe a young bloke from unis who had buckets for hands and changed from FF to rover, went alright.

any other tips anyone?

I'd put my money on Rhino.From what I've heard he's had a top year and Ovies would'nt be half the side they are without him in the middle and Klomp up forward.Also heard that a couple of longtime Ovies boys were dropped for last weeks final in place of a couple Wingfield ring ins who have'nt been seen at the club for 2 months.No wonder the club cant get two sides when players are treated like that.

Well, lets put an end to this arguement... Locky was dropped I believe for knagging injuries(straight from the horses mouth saturday) and hot cold form which a finals team cant risk and Barry Bennett was dropped for the simple fact he verballing abused nearly all his backline team mates vs Phos whilst his player kicked 6 which is totally un-acceptable. He was dropped earlier in the year for the same thing. You'd think a guy with oodles experience would learn.

As dropped players they were both required to turn up to the game and assist in anyway possible. We had no boundary umpire and both refused and walked over the other side of oval and started drinking. Whilst drinking Barry continuosly bagged the umpire(which doesnt help Ovies in anyway) and was heard putting down his own team mates. Locky is also actively trying to recruit players from ovies to Blackfriars for 09 which is a no-no.

Regardless of how long you have been at a club you can be dropped for form and discipline reasons! And as for us not being half the side without Rhino is outrageous. We definately wouldnt find another player like him in this grade but come-on.

Well let me ask you a couple of questions then Bubbula.Would you go out and boundary umpire for a bloke who has'nt even got the character to call those boys into the rooms and tell them why they were being dropped before the team was announced?I'm not surprised a bloke kicked six goals when Baz was trying to man up on other defenders players.And that info did'nt just come from Barry.No wonder he was having a go at the backline.Granted,Baz does'nt always put his point across in the proper way,but to have blokes crying to the coach because they were told to pick up their men.....C'mon.This is footy mate.It's meant to be a tough sport.As far as being dropped for discipline,are you talking about the same kind of discipline your vice captain showed by dissappearing for two months,and then showing up again come finals.Can you honestly tell me that bloke deserves a spot.And as far as nagging injuries go,that argument does'nt carry much weight when one of the guys who came into the side needs a knee operation,is virtually on one leg and pulled out of the side before the game anyway.And he also has'nt been at the club for at lest a month.How can you justify that selection?Locky may well be trying to take some players out to Blackfriars,but how is that any different to Chris bringing a dozen blokes from Wingfield this year,and from Gepps Cross to Wingfield last year.I dont think you're in much of a position to talk about loyalty.Believe it or not,I actually still want Ovies to win the flag this year.A few of my best mates are team mates of yours,but I'd say you're gonna have to replace a few of your better players for next year after this debacle.That's if you all decide to stay at one club for longer than a year.

[hawkseye]

so who are the real medal contenders for tonight?

i'm thinkin Rhino wielechowski from my boys, juct consistent performing all year.
if Chenoweth is the on baller i'm thinkin he might poll well but also have votes stolen from the other blokes, and maybe a young bloke from unis who had buckets for hands and changed from FF to rover, went alright.

any other tips anyone?

I'd put my money on Rhino.From what I've heard he's had a top year and Ovies would'nt be half the side they are without him in the middle and Klomp up forward.Also heard that a couple of longtime Ovies boys were dropped for last weeks final in place of a couple Wingfield ring ins who have'nt been seen at the club for 2 months.No wonder the club cant get two sides when players are treated like that.

Well, lets put an end to this arguement... Locky was dropped I believe for knagging injuries(straight from the horses mouth saturday) and hot cold form which a finals team cant risk and Barry Bennett was dropped for the simple fact he verballing abused nearly all his backline team mates vs Phos whilst his player kicked 6 which is totally un-acceptable. He was dropped earlier in the year for the same thing. You'd think a guy with oodles experience would learn.

As dropped players they were both required to turn up to the game and assist in anyway possible. We had no boundary umpire and both refused and walked over the other side of oval and started drinking. Whilst drinking Barry continuosly bagged the umpire(which doesnt help Ovies in anyway) and was heard putting down his own team mates. Locky is also actively trying to recruit players from ovies to Blackfriars for 09 which is a no-no.

Regardless of how long you have been at a club you can be dropped for form and discipline reasons! And as for us not being half the side without Rhino is outrageous. We definately wouldnt find another player like him in this grade but come-on.

Well let me ask you a couple of questions then Bubbula.Would you go out and boundary umpire for a bloke who has'nt even got the character to call those boys into the rooms and tell them why they were being dropped before the team was announced?I'm not surprised a bloke kicked six goals when Baz was trying to man up on other defenders players.And that info did'nt just come from Barry.No wonder he was having a go at the backline.Granted,Baz does'nt always put his point across in the proper way,but to have blokes crying to the coach because they were told to pick up their men.....C'mon.This is footy mate.It's meant to be a tough sport.As far as being dropped for discipline,are you talking about the same kind of discipline your vice captain showed by dissappearing for two months,and then showing up again come finals.Can you honestly tell me that bloke deserves a spot.And as far as nagging injuries go,that argument does'nt carry much weight when one of the guys who came into the side needs a knee operation,is virtually on one leg and pulled out of the side before the game anyway.And he also has'nt been at the club for at lest a month.How can you justify that selection?Locky may well be trying to take some players out to Blackfriars,but how is that any different to Chris bringing a dozen blokes from Wingfield this year,and from Gepps Cross to Wingfield last year.I dont think you're in much of a position to talk about loyalty.Believe it or not,I actually still want Ovies to win the flag this year.A few of my best mates are team mates of yours,but I'd say you're gonna have to replace a few of your better players for next year after this debacle.That's if you all decide to stay at one club for longer than a year.

Ovingham wouldnt be self destructing would they?

[04 Premiership Coach]

I was waiting for that.Well,I'm not too big a man to admit when I'm wrong,so here goes.I WAS WRONG.I just hope they survive to fight another year.

[hawkseye]

I was waiting for that.Well,I'm not too big a man to admit when I'm wrong,so here goes.I WAS WRONG.I just hope they survive to fight another year.

Fair enough i couldnt resist.

[04 Premiership Coach]

I was waiting for that.Well,I'm not too big a man to admit when I'm wrong,so here goes.I WAS WRONG.I just hope they survive to fight another year.

Fair enough i couldnt resist.

Thats cool.I'll take whats coming to me.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Interesting to read about ovies. Btw Kenilworth is the biggest oval in the Amateur league, actually the 2nd biggest oval in SA behind Hamra Homes Oval. So have fun running around on it , I love it......

[Bubbula]

so who are the real medal contenders for tonight?

i'm thinkin Rhino wielechowski from my boys, juct consistent performing all year.
if Chenoweth is the on baller i'm thinkin he might poll well but also have votes stolen from the other blokes, and maybe a young bloke from unis who had buckets for hands and changed from FF to rover, went alright.

any other tips anyone?

I'd put my money on Rhino.From what I've heard he's had a top year and Ovies would'nt be half the side they are without him in the middle and Klomp up forward.Also heard that a couple of longtime Ovies boys were dropped for last weeks final in place of a couple Wingfield ring ins who have'nt been seen at the club for 2 months.No wonder the club cant get two sides when players are treated like that.

Well, lets put an end to this arguement... Locky was dropped I believe for knagging injuries(straight from the horses mouth saturday) and hot cold form which a finals team cant risk and Barry Bennett was dropped for the simple fact he verballing abused nearly all his backline team mates vs Phos whilst his player kicked 6 which is totally un-acceptable. He was dropped earlier in the year for the same thing. You'd think a guy with oodles experience would learn.

As dropped players they were both required to turn up to the game and assist in anyway possible. We had no boundary umpire and both refused and walked over the other side of oval and started drinking. Whilst drinking Barry continuosly bagged the umpire(which doesnt help Ovies in anyway) and was heard putting down his own team mates. Locky is also actively trying to recruit players from ovies to Blackfriars for 09 which is a no-no.

Regardless of how long you have been at a club you can be dropped for form and discipline reasons! And as for us not being half the side without Rhino is outrageous. We definately wouldnt find another player like him in this grade but come-on.

Well let me ask you a couple of questions then Bubbula.Would you go out and boundary umpire for a bloke who has'nt even got the character to call those boys into the rooms and tell them why they were being dropped before the team was announced?I'm not surprised a bloke kicked six goals when Baz was trying to man up on other defenders players.And that info did'nt just come from Barry.No wonder he was having a go at the backline.Granted,Baz does'nt always put his point across in the proper way,but to have blokes crying to the coach because they were told to pick up their men.....C'mon.This is footy mate.It's meant to be a tough sport.As far as being dropped for discipline,are you talking about the same kind of discipline your vice captain showed by dissappearing for two months,and then showing up again come finals.Can you honestly tell me that bloke deserves a spot.And as far as nagging injuries go,that argument does'nt carry much weight when one of the guys who came into the side needs a knee operation,is virtually on one leg and pulled out of the side before the game anyway.And he also has'nt been at the club for at lest a month.How can you justify that selection?Locky may well be trying to take some players out to Blackfriars,but how is that any different to Chris bringing a dozen blokes from Wingfield this year,and from Gepps Cross to Wingfield last year.I dont think you're in much of a position to talk about loyalty.Believe it or not,I actually still want Ovies to win the flag this year.A few of my best mates are team mates of yours,but I'd say you're gonna have to replace a few of your better players for next year after this debacle.That's if you all decide to stay at one club for longer than a year.

Chris has always selected the best side he thinks he can put on the park. He has also had the rule that you must speak to him before you leave training if you have queries on selection. He has always had this a set rule. Both knew this and neither acted.
I can't tell you they(the 3 inclusions) 'deserved' to be selected but we had quite a dilema. Barry Bennett stood on his player the entire day. He never marked any other player. I do not believe that you have heard anything from anyone other then Barry because everybody was appalled by the way he acted. As for marking up on our men. Unlike Barry, I didnt stand in a back pocket all day with a 30 metre radius to work in. I was on the back flank and am often caught out for pace. I will admit this and I do get punished by my opponent sometimes But I never lose track of where my player is ay. He(my opponent) is my project for the day. At no stage in a game do I Abuse and put-down my fellow team mates. Barry done it nearly every game. His a hard man to take or understand sometimes. i regard him as a player but sometimes his heads not there. You cant tell me this is good for a side striving for a premiership. Confidence builds confidence and Chris felt this wasnt happening in Barry's game. And to say we were crying to the coach is a disgrace. We all as a unit look out for whats best for the unit and leadership group frowned upon what Barry was doing down there. For you to say its crying I cant understand how you regard yourself as a coach. And if you'd retain these 2 players in your side for finals after this debacle I will question your credibility again and again and again.
As for the players named to come back in.. All regarded there season over until Chris called them and asked for a favour. SR(VC) has serious problems behind the scenes. He had relationship problems and had no-where to live until about a month ago, TB was in a similar situation, Broke up with the missus, was then homeless and totally off the rails. RJ is carrying an injury but can still play to a great level of football. None of the above lack motivation or hardness. And NONE of them abuse there own team mates in any circumstance.
And if your referring to full package footballers(physical, mental, skillful) being Barry and Locky being 2 of them 'better' footballers to be replaced you are dreaming. A good footballer is about what you do for your mates more then what you can do as an individual. Barry and Locky do not fall in the first mentioned category thats for sure.
I presume Barry said we were crying? haha. Whats he doing when he calls you I wonder? Is he calling the kettle black. hah. If you want the non-fictitious story to anything happening at Ovies dont call Barry, call one of your other younger brothers and hear whats really going on.

Up Ovingham 2008. 'A team of mates, not individuals'

[The Big Shrek]

What happened to the "Ovies to Self-Destruct" thread?

[Bubbula]

What happened to the "Ovies to Self-Destruct" thread?

Closed down because it was garbage..

[hawkseye]

What about "the mates" at Wingfield and Gepps?

[Bubbula]

What about "the mates" at Wingfield and Gepps?

what about them?

[Sponge Bob]

What happened to the "Ovies to Self-Destruct" thread?

When Rupert gets back, this may reappear under a different "heading". Mind you it looks as though someone else has already posed the question again regarding the 'self destruction.'

Rupert did promise he would not say "I told you so!" when it happens.

[hawkseye]

What about "the mates" at Wingfield and Gepps?

what about them?

"A good footballer is about what you do for your mates" What did you guys do for your mates at those 2 clubs besides leave them?

[Sponge Bob]

What about "the mates" at Wingfield and Gepps?

Might just be he didn't have any, did you think of that?

[hawkseye]

What about "the mates" at Wingfield and Gepps?

Might just be he didn't have any, did you think of that?

Yeah was just interested in the reply.

[Bubbula]

What about "the mates" at Wingfield and Gepps?

what about them?

"A good footballer is about what you do for your mates" What did you guys do for your mates at those 2 clubs besides leave them?

Here we go again.. We planned on staying at both clubs until shit happened. At Gepps we as a team felt like we werent welcome and werent good enough to be considered part of the club so we decided to move on. Some of the blokes who left after that year had been there for years. Wingfield considering a number of us had played cricket there seemed like the most suitable option when Chris got the nod to coach there. We had 'all' planned to stay at Wingfield on the belief the club had turned itself reputation around then the B grade premiership coach gets kick hit by a disgruntled ex b grader. Would you want to re-new your coaching contract there. Hell no!! In both cases players as individuals had the choice to stay or leave.
Whats going on at Ovies is minor. It was '1' undisciplined player and he was dealt with appropriately.