EPL Discussion Thread 2008/9

[Bully]

the highbury cabinet was to full of trophies . odviously a tottenham supporter took that picture as im sure it wasnt a newcastle fan

[Bully]

and i think we can all start talking about the new tottenham manager now aswell....if you all know what i mean

[johntheclaret]

Just thought I would update the movers and shakers. Just in case anyone has missed anything or just wanted to know who's gone where.

Major In's

Aston Villa
Carlos Cuellar (£7.8m)
Curtis Davies (undisc.)
Brad Friedel (undisc.)
Brad Guzan (undisc.)
James Milner (undisc.)
Nicky Shorey (undisc.)
Steve Sidwell (£5m)
Luke Young (£6m)


Blackburn Rovers
Keith Andrews (undisc.)
Mark Bunn (undisc.)
Vince Grella (undisc.)
Paul Robinson (£3.5m)
Julio Santa Cruz (undisc.)
Danny Simpson (loan)
Carlos Villanueva (loan)


Bolton Wanderers
Johan Elmander (undisc.)
Fabrice Muamba (undisc.)
Riga Mustapha (undisc.)
Danny Shittu (undisc.)
Ebi Smolarek (loan)


Chelsea
Jose Bosingwa (£16.1m)
Deco (£8m)
Mineiro (free)

Everton
Segundo Castillo (loan)
Marouane Fellaini (£15m)
Lars Jacobsen (free)
Carlo Nash (undisc.)
Louis Saha (undisc.)

Fulham
Andranik (free)
Dickson Etuhu (undisc.)
Zoltan Gera (free)
Julian Gray (loan)
Andy Johnson (undisc.)
Toni Kallio (undisc.)
John Pantsil (undisc.)
Mark Schwarzer (free)
David Stockdale (undisc.)
Fredrik Stoor (undisc.)
Bobby Zamora (undisc.)
Pascal Zuberbuhler (free)


Hull City
George Boateng (£1m)
Daniel Cousin (undisc.)
Craig Fagan (£750,000)
Anthony Gardner (£2.5m)
Geovanni (free)
Peter Halmosi (undisc.)
Marlon King (loan)
Paul McShane (loan)
Bernard Mendy (free)
Mark Oxley (£150,000)
Stelios (free)
Tony Warner (free)
Kamil Zayatte (loan)


Liverpool
Diego Cavalieri (undisc.)
Philipp Degen (free)
Andrea Dossena (undisc.)
Robbie Keane (£19m)
David Ngog (undisc.)
Zsolt Poloskei (loan)
Albert Riera (undisc.)


Manchester City
Tal Ben Haim (undisc.)
Glauber Berti (undisc.)
Jo (undisc.)
Robinho (£32.5m)
Vincent Kompany (undisc.)
Shaun Wright-Phillips (undisc.)
Pablo Zabaleta (undisc.)


Manchester United
Dimitar Berbatov (£30.75m)


Middlesbrough
Didier Digard (£4m)
Marvin Emnes (£3.2m)
Justin Hoyte (£3m)


Newcastle United
Sebastien Bassong (undisc.)
Fabricio Coloccini (undisc.)
Ignacio Gonzalez (loan)
Danny Guthrie (undisc.)
Jonas Gutierrez (undisc.)
Xisco (undisc.)


Portsmouth
Nadir Belhadj (loan)
Peter Crouch (undisc.)
Younes Kaboul (undisc.)
Omar Koroma (undisc.)
Glen Little (free)
Ben Sahar (loan)
Jerome Thomas (undisc.)
Armand Traore (loan)


Stoke City
Andrew Davies (undisc.)
Abdoulaye Faye (£2.25m)
Amdy Faye (undisc.)
Danny Higginbotham (undisc.)
Dave Kitson (£5.5m)
Seyi Olofinjana (£3m)
Tom Soares (undisc)
Ibrahima Sonko (undisc.)
Thomas Sorensen (free)
Michael Tonge (£2m)


Sunderland
Djibril Cisse (loan)
Pascal Chimbonda (undisc.)
Nick Colgan (free)
El-Hadji Diouf (undisc.)
Anton Ferdinand (undisc.)
David Healy (undisc.)
Steed Malbranque (undisc.)
George McCartney (undisc.)
David Meyler (undisc.)
Teemu Tainio (undisc.)


Tottenham Hotspur
David Bentley (£15m)
John Bostock (£700,000)
Fraizer Campbell (loan)
Vedran Corluka (£8.5m)
Giovani dos Santos (£4.7m)
Heurelho Gomes (undisc.)
Luka Modric (£16.6m)
Roman Pavlyuchenko (£14m)
Cesar Sanchez (undisc.)


West Brom
Roman Bednar (£2.3m)
Marek Cech (£1.4m)
Scott Carson (£3.25m)
Michal Danek (loan)
Ryan Donk (loan)
Graham Dorrans (£100,000)
Kim Do-Heon (£550,000)
Abdoulaye Meite (£2m)
Luke Moore (£3m)
Jonas Olsson (£800,000)
Borja Valero (£4.7m)
Gianni Zuiverloon (£3.2m)


West Ham
Valon Behrami (£5million)
David di Michele (loan)
Herita Ilunga (loan)
Walter Lopez (free)
Jan Lastuvka (loan)


Wigan Athletic
Lee Cattermole (undisc.)
Daniel De Ridder (free)
Olivier Kapo (£2.5m)
Amr Zaki (loan)

And major Out's

Arsenal
Mathieu Flamini (free)
Alexander Hleb (£11.8m)
Justin Hoyte (£3m)
Jens Lehmann (free)
Philippe Senderos (loan)
Gilberto Silva (undisc.)
Armand Traore (loan)


Aston Villa
Patrik Berger (free)
Shaun Maloney (£1million)
Olof Mellberg (free)
Luke Moore (£3m)
Thomas Sorensen (free)


Blackburn Rovers
David Bentley (£15m)
Bruno Berner (released)
Peter Enckelman (free)
Brad Friedel (undisc.)
Stephane Henchoz (released)
Gunnar Nielsen (loan)
Maceo Rigters (loan)


Bolton Wanderers
Andranik (free)
Daniel Braaten (undisc.)
Ivan Campo (free)
El-Hadji Diouf (undisc.)
Blerim Dzemaili (loan)
Abdoulaye Meite (£2m)
Stelios (released)


Chelsea
Tal Ben Haim (undisc.)
Khalid Boulahrouz (undisc.)
Hernan Crespo (released)
Claude Makelele (free)
Claudio Pizarro (loan)
Slobodan Rajkovic (loan)
Ben Sahar (loan)
Andriy Shevchenko (undisc.)
Steve Sidwell (£5m)
Shaun Wright-Phillips (undisc.)


Everton
Lee Carsley (free)
Andy Johnson (undisc.)
Stefan Wessels (free)


Fulham
Carlos Bocanegra (released)
Hameur Bouazza (loan)
Philippe Christanval (released)
Lee Cook (loan)
Steven Davis (undisc.)
David Healy (undisc.)
Collins John (loan)
Jari Litmanen (released)
Brian McBride (free)
Elliot Omozusi (loan)
Ian Pearce (released)
Alexei Smertin (released)
Dejan Stefanovic (undisc.)
Moritz Volz (loan)
Tony Warner (free)


Hull City
Michael Bridges (loan)
David Livermore (free)
Jay-Jay Okocha (released)
Henrik Pedersen (undisc.)


Liverpool
Scott Carson (£3.25m)
Peter Crouch (undisc.)
Steve Finnan (undisc.)
Danny Guthrie (undisc.)
Jack Hobbs (loan)
Harry Kewell (free)
Anthony Le Tallec (free)
Sebastian Leto (loan)
John Arne Riise (£3.98million)
Andriy Voronin (loan)


Manchester City
Rolando Bianchi (undisc.)
Vedran Corluka (£8.5m)
Bernardo Corradi (free)
Paul Dickov (released)
Geovanni (free)
Andreas Isaksson (undisc.)
Sun Jihai (free)
Matthew Mills (undisc.)
Emile Mpenza (released)
Georgios Samaras (undisc.)


Manchester United
Fraizer Campbell (loan)
Chris Eagles (undisc.)
Gerard Pique (undisc.)
Louis Saha (undisc.)
Danny Simpson (loan)
Mikael Silvestre (undisc.)

Middlesbrough
George Boateng (£1m)
Lee Cattermole (undisc.)
Dong-Gook Lee (released)
Gaizka Mendieta (released)
Fabio Rochemback (free)
Mark Schwarzer (free)
Luke Young (£6m)


Newcastle United
Stephen Carr (released)
Emre (undisc.)
Abdoulaye Faye (£2.25m)
James Milner (undisc.)
Peter Ramage (free)
David Rozehnal (£2.9million)


Portsmouth
Martin Cranie (loan)
Omar Koroma (loan)
Pedro Mendes (undisc.)
Sulley Muntari (undisc.)
Linvoy Primus(loan)


Stoke City
Marlon Broomes (free)
Russell Hoult (free)
Dominic Matteo (released)
Jon Parkin (undisc.)
Anthony Pulis (free)
Adam Rooney (£50,000)


Sunderland
Andy Cole (released)
Dickson Etuhu (undisc.)
Greg Halford (loan)
Ian Harte (released)
Danny Higginbotham (undisc.)
Paul McShane (loan)
Roy O'Donovan (loan)
Stanislav Varga (released)
Ross Wallace (loan)
Stephen Wright (released)


Tottenham Hotspur
Dimitar Berbatov (£30.75m)
Pascal Chimbonda (undisc.)
Anthony Gardner (£2.5m)
Younes Kaboul (undisc.)
Robbie Keane (£19m)
Lee Young-Pyo (undisc.)
Steed Malbranque (undisc.)
Paul Robinson (£3.5m)
Teemu Tainio (undisc.)


West Brom
Martin Albrechtsen (free)
Curtis Davies (undisc.)
Zoltan Gera (free)
Kevin Phillips (free)
Luke Steele (free)


West Ham
Anton Ferdinand (undisc.)
George McCartney (undisc.)
John Pantsil (undisc.)
Nolberto Solano (released)
Richard Wright (undisc.)
Bobby Zamora (undisc.)


Wigan Athletic
Julius Aghahowa (undisc.)
Rachid Bouaouzan (loan)
David Cotterill (undisc.)
Andreas Granqvist (undisc.)
Marlon King (loan)
Carlo Nash (undisc.)
Salomon Olembe (released)
Antoine Sibierski (loan)
Josip Skoko (released)
Andy Webster (undisc.)

[mighty hounds]

when did senderos leave and where did he get loaned too?

<Edited as per RM's reason by Mods, all good, play on>

[RoosterMarty]

Did you really need to quote the whole post to ask about one player???

[mighty hounds]

Did you really need to quote the whole post to ask about one player???

well yes yes i di need to quote it all

[RoosterMarty]

Good work Mods.

Senderos is at Milan by the way, a year long loan deal according to Wiki.

[devilsadvocate]

Major ins:

Wigan Athletic
Lee Cattermole (undisc.)
Daniel De Ridder (free)
Olivier Kapo (£2.5m)
Amr Zaki (loan)

Gotta say that Steve Bruce has done a great piece of business here with Zaki. The bloke can play and was great on the weekend against Citeh.

[Bully]

interesting to see how the blue half of manchester goes with all this cash flow now.

[Mythical Creature]

Is there anywhere I can find out who the regular penalty takers for each club are. I see Zaki has taken most of Wigan's this year. I guess sometimes the captain may decide to take them himself where other teams may have a designated penalty taker. Thanks

[devilsadvocate]

Is there anywhere I can find out who the regular penalty takers for each club are. I see Zaki has taken most of Wigan's this year. I guess sometimes the captain may decide to take them himself where other teams may have a designated penalty taker. Thanks

It's a matter of watching as I don;t think you'll find a list as such anywhere. From the top of my head:

Man U - Ronaldo
Liverpool - Stevie G
Arsenal - Adebayor
Chavski - Lumpard
Portsmouth - Defoe
Everton - Yakubu
Newcastle - Owen


After that I'm struggling. For Tottenham (probably Pavlyuchenko now), Villa (Carew?), Sunderland ??, West Ham ??, Fulham ??, Blackburn (Roque Sant Cruz?), Hull, Stoke, WBA (Bednar?), Boro (Alves?), Wigan - Zaki as mentioned, Citeh (Robinho?), Bolton ??.

[johntheclaret]

Is there anywhere I can find out who the regular penalty takers for each club are. I see Zaki has taken most of Wigan's this year. I guess sometimes the captain may decide to take them himself where other teams may have a designated penalty taker. Thanks

It's a matter of watching as I don;t think you'll find a list as such anywhere. From the top of my head:

Man U - Ronaldo
Liverpool - Stevie G
Arsenal - Adebayor
Chavski - Lumpard
Portsmouth - Defoe
Everton - Yakubu
Newcastle - Owen


After that I'm struggling. For Tottenham (probably Pavlyuchenko now), Villa (Carew?), Sunderland ??, West Ham ??, Fulham ??, Blackburn (Roque Sant Cruz?), Hull, Stoke, WBA (Bednar?), Boro (Alves?), Wigan - Zaki as mentioned, Citeh (Robinho?), Bolton ??.

Not EPL but the Clarets, Graham Alexander. It's the furthest he can run without stopping for a breather, and the furthest he can kick a ball

[devilsadvocate]

Not EPL but the Clarets, Graham Alexander. It's the furthest he can run without stopping for a breather, and the furthest he can kick a ball

That's why I had a punt on him for 1st goal last weekend.
It's funny, in the program, there was an article on GA titled "the Claret that just keeps on running"
I'll be happy to be in his shape when I'm 36. Actually, I'd be happy to be in his shape now

[johntheclaret]

Fair comment their DA.

Has been pretty good this year, playing just in front of the back four. Coyle has found the right formula to get the best out of GA.

Add 4 goals to boot so far this year. Not a bad return from a defensive sweeper.

[ORDoubleBlues]

Can anyone comment - who knows more about it than me - about Hull's impressive start to the season including the weekends remarkable away win against Arsenal which broke some longstanding record to do with Arsenal's home matches.

Every preseason preview I read Hull was absolutely pasted and were only predicted to win one and a half games for the year in two previews. Well they've exceeded that already and while there is still a long way to go, they'd have to be the best story of the EPL so far.

[Pidge]

Can anyone comment - who knows more about it than me - about Hull's impressive start to the season including the weekends remarkable away win against Arsenal which broke some longstanding record to do with Arsenal's home matches.

Every preseason preview I read Hull was absolutely pasted and were only predicted to win one and a half games for the year in two previews. Well they've exceeded that already and while there is still a long way to go, they'd have to be the best story of the EPL so far.

They are turning out to be something like Reading a couple of years back. They got promoted and managed to finish in the top half of the table to everyone's surprise.

Just Remember the season has only started and they could still go down.

[JK]

Can anyone comment - who knows more about it than me - about Hull's impressive start to the season including the weekends remarkable away win against Arsenal which broke some longstanding record to do with Arsenal's home matches.

Every preseason preview I read Hull was absolutely pasted and were only predicted to win one and a half games for the year in two previews. Well they've exceeded that already and while there is still a long way to go, they'd have to be the best story of the EPL so far.

I don't reckon anyone, Hull fans included, thought they would have started the year this well ... To a lesser extent the same could be said for West Brom and Stoke too.

All I saw of Hull was last seasons Championship decider and they looked defensively sound, although I thought if Windass was going to get regular minutes they would have no hope this year ... Goes to show the $$ the CCL teams earn through promotion is a great help and a great idea IMHO.

Noone wants to see a Premier competition where 3 teams come in and then immediately go back down, year after year ... Hull have been exceptional so far and play a highly entertaining brand of football, hope they can keep it going (except v the mighty Redmen )

[johntheclaret]

Calm down fella's. Hull will go down this year. It happens quite often, that one of the new boys impress early on. It won't last, they just simply don't have the depth of squad needed. Come December, when the suspensions and injuries start to take their toll Hull will be found wanting.

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing against Hull, and fair do's to them for making a fist of it, but money talks in the EPL and Hull just won't be able to sustain their impressive start.

I'll stick some stats up in the Stats forum of other sides that have come up, started well and then failed. Bristol City and Carlisle both spring to mind

[smithy]

How can Hull possibly get relegated when Spurs, Newcastle and Everton will ?

[Pidge]

Hull City win again
Liverpool win with a stingy Dirk Kuyt goal
Chelsea win at home

What a great day of EPL