Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:24 pm

Not a lot of joy here


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3.25 To make rules and conditions under which the players may play and the
conditions upon which an applicant club may enter the competition.

RULE AND CONDITIONS

35 PROMOTION AND RELEGATION
35.1 Subject to Clauses 34.3 and 34.4 herein the Member Clubs occupying the lowest two positions on the premiership table in the Divisions with a reserve Division (except the lowest Division of The League and the lowest Division of The League with a reserve Division) at the end of the minor round of matches in each Division, not being a reserve Division, shall be relegated to the Division below their current Division in the following season.
35.2 C Division teams shall be promoted and relegated according to the promotion and relegation of the A Division teams and D Division teams shall be structured according to play with their C Division teams where possible.
35.3 Subject to Clauses 34.3 and 34.4 herein the Member Clubs playing off in the Grand Final in each Division, not being a reserve Division, shall be promoted to the Division above their current Division in the following season.
35.4 No two teams from any one Member Club shall in any one year be in the same Division.
35.5 Either of the Member Clubs playing off in the Grand Final may choose not to be promoted in the following season provided that such an option has not been exercised by that Member Club in the previous season and that a Member Club occupying either of the lowest two positions on the premiership table at the end of the minor round of matches in the Division above the Member Clubs to be promoted chooses to remain in the same Division for the following season provided such Member Club has not exercised this option in the previous season.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:47 pm

As I have said before Caddyshack & Co. need to have some balls and tell Scotch or Smosh that they are playing D2 in 2009

They did it to our C Grade last year when we wated to player lower as 90% of the side was deaf and look at the results 0 wins and an average of a 25-30 goal loss each week but we had to play C1

We were told we had to be C1. Show some balls Zoolander and put Heardy in his place.
He nominated D2 now he has to wear it
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby boozehound » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:36 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:
Nearly Was wrote:EV it's not just about money. You could shatter a side for years if they didn't have the personnel to handle the grade. A2 is a strong comp, especially this year and if a side went up underprepared they could get horribly smashed. It has to be a balance.


Very good post Nearly Was, exactly the reason Scotch and SMOSH want to go down. Still, no guts no glory and I reckon if you think you can handle it it is a great opportunity. There is little certainty in football and moving up a div like this is a gift. You could be the best side all year and miss out on a GF like PAOC or us to a certain extent last year.



Absolute comedy gold Shrek............
Harsh but fair.....
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Free Willy » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:23 pm

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:As I have said before Caddyshack & Co. need to have some balls and tell Scotch or Smosh that they are playing D2 in 2009

They did it to our C Grade last year when we wated to player lower as 90% of the side was deaf and look at the results 0 wins and an average of a 25-30 goal loss each week but we had to play C1

We were told we had to be C1. Show some balls Zoolander and put Heardy in his place.
He nominated D2 now he has to wear it


Are you incapable of reading the posts Fourth Estate. No-one has nominated for any Division let alone Scotch OC. Nominations take place no later than February 20th for this season. As Scotch had not nominated for D2 and have accepted the rules of finishing 10th, they are taking their rightful place in D3. Scotch nominated for D3 before the acceptance date of February 20th as they were required to do. All Scotch OC had done before this date is void before the nomination period takes place, as it holds not legal grounds under the constitution of the League. Difficult to put someone or a club in their place my friend if they have not broken any rules or legislation
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Free Willy » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:27 pm

boozehound wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:
Nearly Was wrote:EV it's not just about money. You could shatter a side for years if they didn't have the personnel to handle the grade. A2 is a strong comp, especially this year and if a side went up underprepared they could get horribly smashed. It has to be a balance.


Very good post Nearly Was, exactly the reason Scotch and SMOSH want to go down. Still, no guts no glory and I reckon if you think you can handle it it is a great opportunity. There is little certainty in football and moving up a div like this is a gift. You could be the best side all year and miss out on a GF like PAOC or us to a certain extent last year.



Absolute comedy gold Shrek............


Looking forward to your Gold comedy Boozehound and Shrek in this years Football Budget. Should be a terrific and most enjoyable read as per last year
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby The Big Shrek » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:31 pm

Looks like Free Willy tried to jump over the breakwater to freedom but fell on his fat gut!

How long until Free Willy 2?
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:11 am

Free Willy wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:As I have said before Caddyshack & Co. need to have some balls and tell Scotch or Smosh that they are playing D2 in 2009

They did it to our C Grade last year when we wated to player lower as 90% of the side was deaf and look at the results 0 wins and an average of a 25-30 goal loss each week but we had to play C1

We were told we had to be C1. Show some balls Zoolander and put Heardy in his place.
He nominated D2 now he has to wear it


Are you incapable of reading the posts Fourth Estate. No-one has nominated for any Division let alone Scotch OC. Nominations take place no later than February 20th for this season. As Scotch had not nominated for D2 and have accepted the rules of finishing 10th, they are taking their rightful place in D3. Scotch nominated for D3 before the acceptance date of February 20th as they were required to do. All Scotch OC had done before this date is void before the nomination period takes place, as it holds not legal grounds under the constitution of the League. Difficult to put someone or a club in their place my friend if they have not broken any rules or legislation


I believe clubs were asked to submit nominations toward the end of last year.

The February 20th cut off date is in place for those who wish to submit C/D grade sides (and for clubs looking to have two teams in Div 7), thus giving them time to see whether they will have the numbers.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:57 am

Quichey wrote:
Free Willy wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:As I have said before Caddyshack & Co. need to have some balls and tell Scotch or Smosh that they are playing D2 in 2009

They did it to our C Grade last year when we wated to player lower as 90% of the side was deaf and look at the results 0 wins and an average of a 25-30 goal loss each week but we had to play C1

We were told we had to be C1. Show some balls Zoolander and put Heardy in his place.
He nominated D2 now he has to wear it


Are you incapable of reading the posts Fourth Estate. No-one has nominated for any Division let alone Scotch OC. Nominations take place no later than February 20th for this season. As Scotch had not nominated for D2 and have accepted the rules of finishing 10th, they are taking their rightful place in D3. Scotch nominated for D3 before the acceptance date of February 20th as they were required to do. All Scotch OC had done before this date is void before the nomination period takes place, as it holds not legal grounds under the constitution of the League. Difficult to put someone or a club in their place my friend if they have not broken any rules or legislation


I believe clubs were asked to submit nominations toward the end of last year.

The February 20th cut off date is in place for those who wish to submit C/D grade sides (and for clubs looking to have two teams in Div 7), thus giving them time to see whether they will have the numbers.


You know - I cant find anything in the Constitution or Rules & Regulations relating to the Feb 20th cut-off date - Egg & Bacon Pie is quite correct:

2 RENEWAL OF MEMBERSHIP
2.1 Each Member Club seeking renewal of its membership with The League shall make its application on such
renewal form as prescribed by The League and to be received by The League not later than the thirtyfirst
day of October of the year preceding that to which renewal is sought.
2.2 A Member Club application for re-admission shall include:
(a)The number of teams such Member Club desires to field in The League
(b)Front and rear view photographs of the proposed uniform(s).
(c)A nomination of the Division(s) in which each team of the Member Club desires to compete
(d) Any other information that from time to time the Executive Committee directs to form part of the
Member Club re-admission application.
2.3 Each such renewal shall be accompanied by a fee as determined by the Executive Committee. Such fee will
be deducted from that Member Club‛s subscriptions for the forthcoming season.
2.4 For the purpose of considering any application for renewal of its membership to The League the Executive
Committee retains the right to examine and inspect the Member Club‛s records, oval(s), change rooms,
clubrooms and facilities.
2.5 The Executive Committee may make any recommendations as it sees fit concerning such Member Club
oval(s), change rooms, clubrooms or facilities.
2.6 Where the Member Club has more than one team desiring to compete in The League the Executive
Committee may reject such application in respect of one or more of the Member Club‛s teams.
2.7 Any Member Club withdrawing a team or teams after the date determined by the Executive Committee in
that particular season shall pay a fee to The League as determined by the Executive Committee.
2.8 Any Member Club withdrawing a team or teams during the season shall pay part of or total of the annual
subscriptions as the Executive Committee may see fit.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:28 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:2.1 Each Member Club seeking renewal of its membership with The League shall make its application on such
renewal form as prescribed by The League and to be received by The League not later than the thirtyfirst
day of October of the year preceding that to which renewal is sought
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That's the big one Jimmy. This is the date that Scotch and SMOSH would have made their nominations by.

The Feb 20th cut off date is an arbitrary concept that merely gives clubs who are submitting C/D grades a greater opportunity to see whether they'll have the players required and benefits both these clubs and the league administrators.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby X Runna » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:39 am

End of Story then.............

Guess Scotch will get their wish in 2010............
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Bradman » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:01 am

so if Div2 is a 9 team comp this year
what will happen to all the teams that think they escaped relegation in other grades
eg brahma loge div 7?
kenilworth etc??
will only one team come down from div 1 and 2 up from div 3 at end of year
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:03 am

There's no way they'll let it be a nine team comp. Would be chaos for all other divisions.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Bradman » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:12 am

Why would it?
would just be the teams that were suppose to go down actually do
this stuff like mitchell park etc going up and dont deserve to is a shambles now
if they cant make a side go into div 2 cant see any other option really
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:27 am

Why wouldn't Golden Grove give it a shot, they had a great year last year, they've recruited well, they've no doubt got their sights set on working their way up the divisions, they have money and they must rate themselves relatively well to be challenging Modbury in a trial.

I'm not taking the p!ss, why wouldn't clubs want to fast-track their success and strike while the irons hot. Somebody has to go up, remaining competitive and trying to avoid relegation is still going to place them in a stronger position for 2010.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:32 am

Bradman wrote:Why would it?
would just be the teams that were suppose to go down actually do
this stuff like mitchell park etc going up and dont deserve to is a shambles now
if they cant make a side go into div 2 cant see any other option really


Would create a bit of uproar among many more teams throughout the league, but it has serious ramifications for 2010, whereby a choice has to be made whether they promote three clubs into division two or the second bottom team is immune from relegation. Besides, I can't seeing them having the division, which is a feeder to the best amateur comp in the state, with nine teams and therefore having to schedule byes - NO WAY!!!

If Scotch cannot find a club willing to take their spot in Div 2 then they should have no choice but to play where they nominated. Simple.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Bradman » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:37 am

We all got opinions of what should happen

But what does the rules state
Simple really
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Q. » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:40 am

The rules state that you had to nominate by October 31st. Everyone else have to live with their nominations.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Nearly Was » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:31 pm

No one from Amateur league has contacted any Clubs to my knowledge on going to A2. IF they do I am sure Kilburn will give it strong consideration.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby finn » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:50 pm

worst comes to worst - deal with the bye plenty of other grades have.

plus it gives an ideal opportunity to have a "keep the partner happy " weekend....

certainly not the ideal situation but without an interested party there's no real point in making a side stay up unless the same rules are applied throughout the grades.
perhaps the amateur league should rewrite its constitution and laws stating that if a side pulls out of the competition the next in line has to go up. while they're there make it so that teams that play in the gf have to go up grades regardless of whether its their c/d/e/f grade.
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Re: Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

Postby Iron Fist » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:21 pm

lets just make a 10th side, they can have grand north as there cash revenue (as its so much), Coxy can be the captain of the side and there home ground can be ovies oval?!
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