3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:24 pm

locky801 wrote:this referral stuff is a bloody joke :roll: :roll:


Yep, get rid of it. Absolute joke.

I don't know about other people, but I'd like to send Pakistan home and play three more Tests against the West Indies. :)
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Interceptor » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:27 pm

Had to be a reasonable amount of doubt on the final wicket.
There was nothing in the footage or sound available to suggest he really nicked it, yet the original decision stood :?
I guess it wasn't "obvious" enough to give the reviewing umpire enough confidence to overturn Bowden.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby cripple » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:34 pm

chris gayle gets a very deserved player of the series. I think he has won a lot of admirers after all the garbage spouted in his direction before he arrived. hard to believe he flew half way around the world 2 days before the series due to a serious family illness. very well done
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby magpie in the 80's » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:41 pm

I wonder why they didn't show snicko earlier than they just did. Would have shown he did hit it.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Interceptor » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:51 pm

magpie in the 80's wrote:I wonder why they didn't show snicko earlier than they just did. Would have shown he did hit it.

Oh really, I missed that.
Seems that sometimes they don't have all the analysis immediately available.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Booney » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:06 pm

mal wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Even tho Aust look like winning, MAL was right.
Aust 1 - 0 up in the series.
Only 1/2 way thru day 2 with fine weather forecast.
Ponting Surely would have thought Aust would have a 2nd Inngs
SO, the question remains,
Why did he declare??????
Aust bowled out for a WOEFUL 150 in the 2nd Inngs, Obviously well short of what he would have liked to have set the Windies.
IF the Windies happen to fluke the last 50 odd runs and win, it will go down as one the biggest blunders of all time, losing a test after only losing 17 wickets.
Could understand the declaration if Aust were 0 - 1 down or 1 - 1 going into the test to ensure time to win .

My prediction - Aust to win series 2 - 0

My Ratings - Aust 5.5/10 barely a pass. Windies 7/10 Very creditable performance after 1st test flogging.

Ratings based on consideration to their current Test ranking.

BUT, IF the windies were to pull off a miracle win, well, well, well, Ponting may very well be asked to give the job away.


Maybe you can take a break from your Aussies bashing to have a real look at what has happened in this match. It is not the declaration that was woeful, but Australia's second innings. If the West Indies get the runs it doesn't go down as a tactical blunder by the captain but just plain old bad batting.

We aren't as good as we used to be and there a lot of posters on this site that need to get over it. Our test ranking is what, four at the moment so your ratings a bogus.

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You mention our woeful 2nd innings
All the more reason to bat longer in the first digs when you have the opposition on the ropes
Best insurance policy I know of


Looking out over Johnson getting out and being 7/520, do you think Ponting knew we were only going to scratch 150 together in the second dig? :shock:
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby FlyingHigh » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:45 pm

Interceptor wrote:Had to be a reasonable amount of doubt on the final wicket.
There was nothing in the footage or sound available to suggest he really nicked it, yet the original decision stood :?
I guess it wasn't "obvious" enough to give the reviewing umpire enough confidence to overturn Bowden.


That is the crux of the rule isn't it - enough evidence to overturn the original decision. Because if Bowden turned it down and the Aussies referred it, there is no way it could have been overturned and given out.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:29 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:
Interceptor wrote:Had to be a reasonable amount of doubt on the final wicket.
There was nothing in the footage or sound available to suggest he really nicked it, yet the original decision stood :?
I guess it wasn't "obvious" enough to give the reviewing umpire enough confidence to overturn Bowden.


That is the crux of the rule isn't it - enough evidence to overturn the original decision. Because if Bowden turned it down and the Aussies referred it, there is no way it could have been overturned and given out.


Exactly, and that is why it is a joke of a system. Third umpires viewing the same incident but making different decisions based on who made the referral. The game could really do without it.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby redden whites » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:12 pm

RoosterMarty wrote:Hahah holy ****, what the hell was that Watto? It just gets more bizarre with every replay!

That was one of the most pathetic things I have seen on a cricket field......embarrassing :oops:
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby locky801 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:17 pm

redden whites wrote:
RoosterMarty wrote:Hahah holy ****, what the hell was that Watto? It just gets more bizarre with every replay!

That was one of the most pathetic things I have seen on a cricket field......embarrassing :oops:



I watched it and thought, he's done a Hammy again ;)
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby FlyingHigh » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:46 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:
Interceptor wrote:Had to be a reasonable amount of doubt on the final wicket.
There was nothing in the footage or sound available to suggest he really nicked it, yet the original decision stood :?
I guess it wasn't "obvious" enough to give the reviewing umpire enough confidence to overturn Bowden.


That is the crux of the rule isn't it - enough evidence to overturn the original decision. Because if Bowden turned it down and the Aussies referred it, there is no way it could have been overturned and given out.


Exactly, and that is why it is a joke of a system. Third umpires viewing the same incident but making different decisions based on who made the referral. The game could really do without it.


But then again, it worked superbly late on the 4th evening when Ramdin's LBW was overturned after a small misjudgment by Gould, who generally umpired very well.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:30 pm

cripple wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
The Cadet wrote:Who will come in for Ponting If he dosnt come up


Rogers with Watto to slide into the number 3 spot.

regards,

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Hughes, Khawja, Henriques.... who else has scored more then 5 runs for NSW lately


Why change a successful strategy. Even guys who were struggling like the Kat and Watto grow wings when they become a Bluebagger. It is a well known cricket fact.

8)

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby CoverKing » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:26 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
cripple wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
The Cadet wrote:Who will come in for Ponting If he dosnt come up


Rogers with Watto to slide into the number 3 spot.

regards,

REB


Hughes, Khawja, Henriques.... who else has scored more then 5 runs for NSW lately


Why change a successful strategy. Even guys who were struggling like the Kat and Watto grow wings when they become a Bluebagger. It is a well known cricket fact.

8)

regards,

REB


I reckon it will be Hughes and Katich to go to number 3. But, it could also be Klinger. Made a double ton at the G last week, and made another 100 on the weekend. (both times dropped on 0)

Been the premier batsman over the last one and a half years in the SS so a like for like replacement, with a number 3 filling in for a one off test match?
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Dirko » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:41 pm



That's embarrassing ! Is it Ponting doing a similar stance behind the wicket ?

Gayle did very well not to turn around and club him one......
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby CoverKing » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:47 pm

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That's embarrassing ! Is it Ponting doing a similar stance behind the wicket ?

Gayle did very well not to turn around and club him one......


Think Ponting was just watching him and not getting involved pretty much! Ponting had a word to him later on after the umpires had spoken to Watto aswell
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby Dirko » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:49 pm

CoverKing wrote:Think Ponting was just watching him and not getting involved pretty much! Ponting had a word to him later on after the umpires had spoken to Watto aswell


Watch the video from the 15 second mark. Ponting is being a dick.
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby CoverKing » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:54 pm

SJABC wrote:
CoverKing wrote:Think Ponting was just watching him and not getting involved pretty much! Ponting had a word to him later on after the umpires had spoken to Watto aswell


Watch the video from the 15 second mark. Ponting is being a dick.


Jabber didnt see that earlier! Was it premeditated by him and Watson?? Pretty foolish isnt it!
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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby mal » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:13 pm

Watson was also running on the pitch
This was a t0tal embarrasment for me and NFC
It was so animated , there might have been some history between Gayle and Watto ?
Its the sort of thing I was capable of doing in Primary School

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Re: 3rd Test Australia Vs West Indies at the WACA

Postby NFC » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:56 pm

REB= KNOWS. HIS. STUFF.

Anyone who has a go at the declaration has, well, no clue or is suffering brain cramp.
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