Marcus North' replacement for the third test

[Rik E Boy]

2009/2010 season

Ponting 216 runs @ 27.00, s/rate 69.00 (2 fifties)

Ponting 2009/10 = Hayden 2008/09.

regards,

REB

[stan]

No worries stan. Anytime someone says 'out with so and so' I always think 'yeah that's all well and good but who do you bring in'. If Clarke isn't in the side I'd like to see the eleven that person selects because for me he is one of the first one picked.

Just a comment on North again. I didn't get the chance to watch any Cricket yesterday but I note that North has been caught again. I know Booney isn't going to like this but is our coach earning his dough with this current side?

Like our teams immediately after the retirements of Chappell, Marsh and Lillee we seem to be advanced in years but not in experience. I reckon the coach and the selectors have got a lot of thinking to do and that it might take a few years before we are a power again.

As for Usman....perhaps he needs a bit of work on the short ball as well. Haven't seen a lot of him bat but the domestic bowlers are bouncing him right away - at least in the teeball and Franger matches.

regards,

REB

Agree with you about the coaches REB. Also about the Clarke and Usman issue.
Although the good thing about the domestic comp is that it is so competative that if you have an issue with the short ball, then bowlers around the country are going to give you a fair bit of practice in the middle with it!

I have not doubt be wont be a super power again for a few years. I would suggest it might be a Mitch Marsh led side that dominate world cricket again, an we all know thats definitly a few years away.

[Pup]

I think North will get another chance.

But his stats are starting to get quite alarming especially in the second innings.

On the Hughes situation, I have no doubt he has huge talent and is going to be a star in the future but i don't think we should be playing around with things that are woking at the top of the order for me it needs to stay Katich and Watson.

Yes i am sure Watson will play well in the middle order but look at his record since he has been opening 62,53,51,34,40,0,96,48,89,30,93,120*,6 and 97. Really is an amazing start to his opening career and i wouldn't be fiddling around with something that is clearly working.

[Jimmy]

if klinger gets a call up he'll be the 2nd jewish cricketer to represent australia at test cricket

who was the first?

[brod]

if klinger gets a call up he'll be the 2nd jewish cricketer to represent australia at test cricket

who was the first?

Just go back a page or two..and all will be revealed

[NFC]

No worries stan. Anytime someone says 'out with so and so' I always think 'yeah that's all well and good but who do you bring in'. If Clarke isn't in the side I'd like to see the eleven that person selects because for me he is one of the first one picked.

Just a comment on North again. I didn't get the chance to watch any Cricket yesterday but I note that North has been caught again. I know Booney isn't going to like this but is our coach earning his dough with this current side?

Like our teams immediately after the retirements of Chappell, Marsh and Lillee we seem to be advanced in years but not in experience. I reckon the coach and the selectors have got a lot of thinking to do and that it might take a few years before we are a power again.

As for Usman....perhaps he needs a bit of work on the short ball as well. Haven't seen a lot of him bat but the domestic bowlers are bouncing him right away - at least in the teeball and Franger matches.

regards,

REB

At this stage of his career, he's not suited to the shorter form of the game. He's a run machine in the SS, which is what counts the most. He is a very good puller of the ball, in the SS he's shown the ability to consistently put away and control the stroke.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I'm more concerned by the poor form of Ponting and Clarke than who is going to replace North.

Never thought Clarke deserved to be in the side in the first place. Only makes runs when there is no pressure on him. God help us if he is our next captain.

I thought we were past this sort of nonsense. Some people obviously cannot move on, restricted by personal biases.

Damn right I'm biased. 'cause he is crap. My opinion. Don't like it. Ignore it.

[rod_rooster]

I'm more concerned by the poor form of Ponting and Clarke than who is going to replace North.

Never thought Clarke deserved to be in the side in the first place. Only makes runs when there is no pressure on him. God help us if he is our next captain.

I thought we were past this sort of nonsense. Some people obviously cannot move on, restricted by personal biases.

Damn right I'm biased. 'cause he is crap. My opinion. Don't like it. Ignore it.

You think Clarke is crap. Yep, i will choose to ignore you and all your posts from now on as you clearly have no idea.

[dedja]

All I'll comment on is that I wouldn't mind his missus texting me ...

[The Sleeping Giant]

You think Clarke is crap. Yep, i will choose to ignore you and all your posts from now on as you clearly have no idea.

Back up your statement rod. Meaningless 100's. Consistently fails under pressure. Good players stand up when the heat is on. Getting a 100 in boring draws or when the game is well and truly lost don't count. Watch him get 100 in the next test, when it doesn't matter.........again.

[Pup]

You think Clarke is crap. Yep, i will choose to ignore you and all your posts from now on as you clearly have no idea.

Back up your statement rod. Meaningless 100's. Consistently fails under pressure. Good players stand up when the heat is on. Getting a 100 in boring draws or when the game is well and truly lost don't count. Watch him get 100 in the next test, when it doesn't matter.........again.

So anyway.

1st Test vs India 2004 (Debut)- 4/149- Comes in and makes 151 in first innings on debut. (Win)

1st Test Vs NZ 2004 (Debut in Aus) Comes in at 4/128 in the first innings and makes 141. (Win)

2nd Test Vs England 2006- Makes a first innings 124 to help chase Englands lead of 550+ (Win)

1st Test Vs Sri Lanka- Makes a first innings 145* to set up 550 1st innings score (Win)

2nd Test Vs NZ 2008- Comes in at 3/150 and makes 110 to set up first innings lead (Win)

3rd Test Vs South Africa (Syd)- Comes in at 3/109 and makes 138 to set up victory. No other player for either side scores a century during the game. (Win)

2nd Test in the Ashes 2009- Makes 136 in loss, Only Australian to make a century. (Loss)

4th test Ashes 2009- 2nd top score with 93 to put Australia in control and level the series. (Win)

So out of 12 test centuries at least 6 he made in wins and all first innings where he has helped set up games.

Averages 55 against England, 52 against Sth Africa and 46 against and in India who are probably our three biggest challenges over the last 4 years.

The downhill skier analogy is a load of rubbish IMO. Sometimes he finds unorthodox ways to get out and yes he will always have his doubters but if you have watched Australian cricket for the last 2 years you would realise he is probably our most consistent and important batsmen.

[Rik E Boy]

Damn right I'm biased. 'cause he is crap. My opinion. Don't like it. Ignore it.

Who is in your eleven Giant?

regards,

REB

[trev]

Weiner

hehehehe Weiner hehehe

[FlyingHigh]

You think Clarke is crap. Yep, i will choose to ignore you and all your posts from now on as you clearly have no idea.

Back up your statement rod. Meaningless 100's. Consistently fails under pressure. Good players stand up when the heat is on. Getting a 100 in boring draws or when the game is well and truly lost don't count. Watch him get 100 in the next test, when it doesn't matter.........again.

So anyway.

1st Test vs India 2004 (Debut)- 4/149- Comes in and makes 151 in first innings on debut. (Win)

1st Test Vs NZ 2004 (Debut in Aus) Comes in at 4/128 in the first innings and makes 141. (Win)

2nd Test Vs England 2006- Makes a first innings 124 to help chase Englands lead of 550+ (Win)

1st Test Vs Sri Lanka- Makes a first innings 145* to set up 550 1st innings score (Win)

2nd Test Vs NZ 2008- Comes in at 3/150 and makes 110 to set up first innings lead (Win)

3rd Test Vs South Africa (Syd)- Comes in at 3/109 and makes 138 to set up victory. No other player for either side scores a century during the game. (Win)

2nd Test in the Ashes 2009- Makes 136 in loss, Only Australian to make a century. (Loss)

4th test Ashes 2009- 2nd top score with 93 to put Australia in control and level the series. (Win)

So out of 12 test centuries at least 6 he made in wins and all first innings where he has helped set up games.

Averages 55 against England, 52 against Sth Africa and 46 against and in India who are probably our three biggest challenges over the last 4 years.

The downhill skier analogy is a load of rubbish IMO. Sometimes he finds unorthodox ways to get out and yes he will always have his doubters but if you have watched Australian cricket for the last 2 years you would realise he is probably our most consistent and important batsmen.

The last two on that list, Pup, were already when the series' had been decided. But overall, I agree.

I'll say it again - Clarke at four to become more responsible in the way he plays to make the most of his talent. Hussey at five or six so he can be the grafter or back-up if we're in trouble like early in his career, and so he doesn't feel he needs to play as forcefully as he does at number 4, as this seems to get him in trouble. His innings yesterday, whilst at number four, was reminiscent of innings against SA (in Melb) and WI (in Ad) around 2005 when he got Australia out of trouble batting with the tail, rather than a more normal number 4 controlling-the-play hundred.

[The Sleeping Giant]

So anyway.

1st Test vs India 2004 (Debut)- 4/149- Comes in and makes 151 in first innings on debut. (Win)

Remember it very well. Great batting. Thought he was lucky too get picked, as did many others.

1st Test Vs NZ 2004 (Debut in Aus) Comes in at 4/128 in the first innings and makes 141. (Win)

Another good dig. Starting too think he might be alright.

2nd Test Vs England 2006- Makes a first innings 124 to help chase Englands lead of 550+ (Win)

After two years. 4/257. Makes a contribution at last.

1st Test Vs Sri Lanka- Makes a first innings 145* to set up 550 1st innings score (Win)

Comes in at 3/216. No pressure.

2nd Test Vs NZ 2008- Comes in at 3/150 and makes 110 to set up first innings lead (Win)

And NZ made a first innings total of 270. No real pressure at 3/150

3rd Test Vs South Africa (Syd)- Comes in at 3/109 and makes 138 to set up victory. No other player for either side scores a century during the game. (Win)

Good contribution. Dropped twice on 12 and 69, not thats not his fault.

2nd Test in the Ashes 2009- Makes 136 in loss, Only Australian to make a century. (Loss)

Chasing 522. Clutching......

4th test Ashes 2009- 2nd top score with 93 to put Australia in control and level the series. (Win)

England were bowled out for 102. He came in at 3/140. Now you are just being silly.

So out of 12 test centuries at least 6 he made in wins and all first innings where he has helped set up games.

So after 57 tests, 93 inns, he has made a winning contribution 2 maybe 3 times. Not good enough.

Averages 55 against England, 52 against Sth Africa and 46 against and in India who are probably our three biggest challenges over the last 4 years.

Would rather he averaged 30, but make runs when they were needed.

The downhill skier analogy is a load of rubbish IMO. Sometimes he finds unorthodox ways to get out and yes he will always have his doubters but if you have watched Australian cricket for the last 2 years you would realise he is probably our most consistent and important batsmen.

I have been, but maybe you haven't been watching closely enough.

At least you aren't biased......PUP.

p.s. Looking forward to rod_roosters witty comeback.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Damn right I'm biased. 'cause he is crap. My opinion. Don't like it. Ignore it.

Who is in your eleven Giant?

regards,

REB

Not Michael Clarke.

[stan]

No worries stan. Anytime someone says 'out with so and so' I always think 'yeah that's all well and good but who do you bring in'. If Clarke isn't in the side I'd like to see the eleven that person selects because for me he is one of the first one picked.

Just a comment on North again. I didn't get the chance to watch any Cricket yesterday but I note that North has been caught again. I know Booney isn't going to like this but is our coach earning his dough with this current side?

Like our teams immediately after the retirements of Chappell, Marsh and Lillee we seem to be advanced in years but not in experience. I reckon the coach and the selectors have got a lot of thinking to do and that it might take a few years before we are a power again.

As for Usman....perhaps he needs a bit of work on the short ball as well. Haven't seen a lot of him bat but the domestic bowlers are bouncing him right away - at least in the teeball and Franger matches.

regards,

REB

At this stage of his career, he's not suited to the shorter form of the game. He's a run machine in the SS, which is what counts the most. He is a very good puller of the ball, in the SS he's shown the ability to consistently put away and control the stroke.

Right mate, whats your best 11?
Put it right here, if you think Clarke is crap, fair enough, but provide us with your best 11 for the next test.

[Rik E Boy]

Damn right I'm biased. 'cause he is crap. My opinion. Don't like it. Ignore it.

Who is in your eleven Giant?

regards,

REB

Not Michael Clarke.

Yeah I get that. What you don't seem to get is that the selectors have no such luxury. If someone gets the arse someone else has to come in. If Clarke is omitted what batsman in your opinion should be selected instead? The selectors had to ask themselves this question when ignoring the claims of Brad Hodge.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

As for Usman....perhaps he needs a bit of work on the short ball as well. Haven't seen a lot of him bat but the domestic bowlers are bouncing him right away - at least in the teeball and Franger matches.

regards,

REB

At this stage of his career, he's not suited to the shorter form of the game. He's a run machine in the SS, which is what counts the most. He is a very good puller of the ball, in the SS he's shown the ability to consistently put away and control the stroke.

Perhaps it is the hook or the back foot defence rather than the pull shot that opposition sides are targetting. I saw him play a very nice pull shot the other night so you are OTM there.

regards,

REB

[Lightning McQueen]

As for Usman....perhaps he needs a bit of work on the short ball as well. Haven't seen a lot of him bat but the domestic bowlers are bouncing him right away - at least in the teeball and Franger matches.

regards,

REB

At this stage of his career, he's not suited to the shorter form of the game. He's a run machine in the SS, which is what counts the most. He is a very good puller of the ball, in the SS he's shown the ability to consistently put away and control the stroke.

Perhaps it is the hook or the back foot defence rather than the pull shot that opposition sides are targetting. I saw him play a very nice pull shot the other night so you are OTM there.

regards,

REB

Too right, he can execute the shot well when HE wants to, not when he HAS to.