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[Psyber]

LOL, I'm trying to work out if Psyber is Sam Newman, Fangio or Geoffrey Edelsten.
Sorry Psyber ... jokes, jokes, just jokes

Is this the real Psyber???
Nah.. I haven't driven a Holden since 1975 and that was my 1969 HK Monaro 327 just before it left with the first wife..
I got to keep the Datsun Fairlady 2 litre. http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/ca ... irlady.htm

[Mr Beefy]

I think the introduction of point to point speed cameras will have positive impact on country roads. It eliminates the need for mobile or fixed speed cameras, which some drivers will know are there and simply slow down while going past them and then resume their excessive speeding.

[tipper]

I think the introduction of point to point speed cameras will have positive impact on country roads. It eliminates the need for mobile or fixed speed cameras, which some drivers will know are there and simply slow down while going past them and then resume their excessive speeding.

i heard a runour that they have started trialling them to see what sort of numbers they will catch if it is implemented (the equipment is already in place, it just isnt legislated that they can issue expiations with them yet) there was one car clocked at an average of over 160 kays between two points over 40 kilometres apart(i think that was the distance, i may be wrong) now that is moving!

[Mr Beefy]

I think the introduction of point to point speed cameras will have positive impact on country roads. It eliminates the need for mobile or fixed speed cameras, which some drivers will know are there and simply slow down while going past them and then resume their excessive speeding.

i heard a runour that they have started trialling them to see what sort of numbers they will catch if it is implemented (the equipment is already in place, it just isnt legislated that they can issue expiations with them yet) there was one car clocked at an average of over 160 kays between two points over 40 kilometres apart(i think that was the distance, i may be wrong) now that is moving!

Yes, I heard same rumour between Two Wells and Pt Wakefield which I think is about 50km. They have them on the craigieburn bypass in Melbourne but that is only over a short distance.

[locky801]

I think the introduction of point to point speed cameras will have positive impact on country roads. It eliminates the need for mobile or fixed speed cameras, which some drivers will know are there and simply slow down while going past them and then resume their excessive speeding.

i heard a runour that they have started trialling them to see what sort of numbers they will catch if it is implemented (the equipment is already in place, it just isnt legislated that they can issue expiations with them yet) there was one car clocked at an average of over 160 kays between two points over 40 kilometres apart(i think that was the distance, i may be wrong) now that is moving!

Im will check it out with some friends and see if they are in the know, haven't heard anything this end as yet

[tipper]

i believe it is still in the testing phase. they have "turned on" the system so they can get an idea of the volumes of expiations and therefore the resources that will need to be allocated to maintain and monitor the system. it might not be common knowledge within the department yet. and there is also nothing to say that it will definately be implemented yet, it is just being investigated at this stage. (but seeing as they already have the equipment, it is the same ones used for trucks, and it is in place i dare say it will only be a matter of time!)

[Psyber]

I think the introduction of point to point speed cameras will have positive impact on country roads. It eliminates the need for mobile or fixed speed cameras, which some drivers will know are there and simply slow down while going past them and then resume their excessive speeding.

For two trips across the Western Highway in Victoria to come to Adelaide in December 08 and January 09, I decided to be careful.
As I'd already lost a few points, and knew speedometers were only accurate to the plus or minus 10% set by law, I decided to resist my normal impulse and not exceed the speed limit.
So, I carefully calibrated the cruise control in my car with the each of two testing stations just outside Melbourne and checked thay agreed.
Then I made sure I used it all the way. I still got pinged each trip for an alleged 108 kph both times.
There was obviously a discrepancy between the testing stations and the on road detection equipment.
No one in Civil Compliance in Victoria was interested, and my local MP, a Victorian Cabinet Minister did not reply.
Jason Wood, my federal local MP and an ex policeman, was sympathetic, and offered to write to the Victorian authorities if I thought it would help.
Fat lot of good trying to not speed did me....

I noticed on my third trip to SA in March 09, the testing stations had been turned off, but my fines and points losses stood..

[redandblack]

So your normal impulse is to exceed the speed limit and when you drive at a speed you consider slow, you're still over the limit?

That's the one trip you decided to be careful.

You should have a re-think about your attitude to speed, mate.

[Psyber]

So your normal impulse is to exceed the speed limit and when you drive at a speed you consider slow, you're still over the limit?
That's the one trip you decided to be careful.
You should have a re-think about your attitude to speed, mate.

C'mon mate you're going over old ground as though you've never heard it before.
And my decision to use the cruise control for those trips indicates I had re-thought my behaviour towards speed limits, if not my opinion.
You are welcome to disagree with my opinion about the open road limit, but don't be deliberately obtuse.
If you are not being deliberately obtuse you need to brush up your reading comprehension skills.

I've stated several times in the recent past that I think open road limits are set too low and am inclined to push them a little.
I said, in the post you just commented on that I decided to be careful from late 2008 because I'd already lost a few points.
I pointed out that this recent decision to stick to the limit didn't work because the advisory station and the roadside equipment didn't match in readings.
[And Locky made points, based on his experience as a Police officer, that point towards why that may have happened.]

So, I have some lack of faith in the potential accuracy of the point to point systems too.
However, I would agree that if they are properly set up, tested, and calibrated regularly, they may be more accurate that the portable gear.

[tipper]

i think the point to point is based on time, therefore as long as the calculations are correct it has to be more accurate, but will only give an average speed for the distance covered. it uses the same equipment that determines if heavy vehicle drivers are speeding or not taking their appropriate rest breaks.

basically you wont get pinged if the time it takes you to travel between the two points is the same as or less than the time it would take to do it at the speed limit. just take a rest break when you have passed the first one and you wont get caught!

[Psyber]

i think the point to point is based on time, therefore as long as the calculations are correct it has to be more accurate, but will only give an average speed for the distance covered. it uses the same equipment that determines if heavy vehicle drivers are speeding or not taking their appropriate rest breaks.

basically you wont get pinged if the time it takes you to travel between the two points is the same as or less than the time it would take to do it at the speed limit. just take a rest break when you have passed the first one and you wont get caught!

That makes sense as long as they measure the distance accurately in setting it up, which I guess they will, but I can't help be just a little sceptical about how well anything is done...

[gossipgirl]

its really simple just dont speed

[locky801]

its really simple just dont speed

sometimes you dont but still get knicked

[Gingernuts]

I reckon they should put notorious black spots under video surveillance. That way they can nab people pulling ridiculous overtaking manouvres or failing to give way. Would probably cost too much to monitor and maintain though I guess.

[Psyber]

its really simple just dont speed

sometimes you dont but still get knicked

That was part of my point.
According to the VicRoads advisory station reading calibrated against my cruise control I wasn't speeding - 4 checks in two trips gave me the same reading.
Going by them I was 2 kph under the limit not 8 kph over...