AUST V ENG 2nd test Adelaide.

[sydney-dog]

mal

mate, not what I have seen,

Mate, have you seen this guy sook on the field, his is cricket's version of Matty Richardson x 10

[mal]

mal

mate, not what I have seen,

Mate, have you seen this guy sook on the field, his is cricket's version of Matty Richardson x 10

Ive seen him sook Ive seen him get injured Ive seen him make runs Ive seen him take wickets.

If he stays fit he could be the next George Giffen, Jack Gregory or Keith Miller.

[sydney-dog]

the only thing Watson does Consistently is sook and get injured

the runs and wickets, well in my opinion he has not done this consistent enough for long enough

to compare him, even as potentially as good as Keith Miller, is way way way premature

I am not saying their is no room for an all rounder in the side, what I am saying, you have to earn the right to wear the baggy green, this should be based on performance over a period of time, selection should not be dictated by a strategy when you don't have a player ready to carry out the strategy, or who has not earn the right to wear the baggy green

[mal]

SD
When 3/4 of this team are finished in 24 months time WATSON will be
in the side, so groom him now.
Hes only played 2 or 3 tests thats why hes made no runs/wickets yet.
His Pura cup batting is excellent, and is worth a gamble, whereas the
team is wasting its time with MARTYN whose test form is ordinary of late.

TEAM OF 2008-2009
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PAINE
JAQUES
PONTING
WATSON
HUSSEY
CLARKE
HADDIN
CLARK
JOHNSON
CULLEN
TAIT
WHITE 12TH MAN

others
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HOPES
SYMONDS
BAILEY
RONCHI
ROGERS
NORTH
CHRISTIAN
QUINNY
DORAN
BORGAS
BRACKEN
KATICH
HODGE
MCKAY
HENREBIQUES

GONE
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HAYDEN
LANGER
MARTYN
GILCHRIST
WARNE
MCGRATH
LEE

SD thats why we need allrounders WATSON/HOPES/WHITE to be blooded sooner than later

[whufc]

Watson playing as many tests as he has makes a mockery of players such as Siddons who never got one or Lehmann who had to make 789 000 runs before getting a chance to establish himself.

I would like to see Watson play a full consistent year of pura cup making both runs and taking wickets on a regular basis.

[whufc]

Here's one from left field, If the Ashes is wrapped up by the Sydney test whats the chance of the inclusion into the test team of Cameron White

With Stuart Clark's brilliant form and the unlikeness of Lee being dropped this would enable them to play three quicks and two spinners. Martyn or Clarke would be the guy to be dropped with Gilchrist batting at six and White at seven giving the team more batting depth if MacGill played.

I understand White's bowling isn't up to international standard but he would be the second spinner Warne would obviously bowl a higher percentage of overs. Plus White has the system line in his favour playing underage for Australia plus Australia A.

Just a thought

[mal]

Watson playing as many tests as he has makes a mockery of players such as Siddons who never got one or Lehmann who had to make 789 000 runs before getting a chance to establish himself.

I would like to see Watson play a full consistent year of pura cup making both runs and taking wickets on a regular basis.

WHUFC :Watson has had a couple of biG seasons with the bat batting 3 fOR QLD.

Gentlemen you have to bowl
90 overs a day in x amount of tests per year
50 over o/d games which are played every 5 minutes.
Gone are the days when cricket teams ambled through 75-80 overs a day,
played 5 tests and then had x amount of months off to recouperate.
Its non stop, the bodies get worn out, stop and look at how many genuine
fast bowlers around the world compared to the 70/80/90's
The bowlers who are breaking records these days are spinners not worn out fast bowlers.

The modern game commands an absolute requirement to play 4 bowlers + an allrounder
of sports, hence the experimentation of the Symonds + the Watsons, and maybe the
Hopes + Whites as well soon.

4 bowlers is a thing of the past
The only reason Australia has gotten away with it for the last decade is because of
Glen Mcgrath and Shane Warrrrrrrrrrney.
When they retire and Australia trys the 4 bowler theory then watch it fail.

This is why the selectors and MAL are vouching for a 5 bowler criteria.

[mal]

Here's one from left field, If the Ashes is wrapped up by the Sydney test whats the chance of the inclusion into the test team of Cameron White

With Stuart Clark's brilliant form and the unlikeness of Lee being dropped this would enable them to play three quicks and two spinners. Martyn or Clarke would be the guy to be dropped with Gilchrist batting at six and White at seven giving the team more batting depth if MacGill played.

I understand White's bowling isn't up to international standard but he would be the second spinner Warne would obviously bowl a higher percentage of overs. Plus White has the system line in his favour playing underage for Australia plus Australia A.

Just a thought

Now your thinking like me.

[whufc]

WHUFC :Watson has had a couple of biG seasons with the bat batting 3 fOR QLD.

My only issue with him is that i would like to see him have big seasons with both bat and ball in the same year. Becuase if he was selected in the test side it would be as an ALL ROUNDER.

I would love to know the stats on how many times he has hit more than 100 runs and taken at least 6 wickets in total for one game over four innings.

[rod_rooster]

Pietersons 6 of Warnnnnney a classic

Very good shot but should have only been 4. Why does the boundary have to be brought in? If it doesn't clear the fence it doesn't deserve 6.

[mal]

Pietersons 6 of Warnnnnney a classic

Very good shot but should have only been 4. Why does the boundary have to be brought in? If it doesn't clear the fence it doesn't deserve 6.

I have to agree with you on this one RR.
However the same shot on English grounds would be in the grandstand

[rod_rooster]

Pietersons 6 of Warnnnnney a classic

Very good shot but should have only been 4. Why does the boundary have to be brought in? If it doesn't clear the fence it doesn't deserve 6.

I have to agree with you on this one RR.
However the same shot on English grounds would be in the grandstand

Yep but that is the beauty of the game. Different venues different conditions. Officials are trying to standardise everything.

[rod_rooster]

SD
When 3/4 of this team are finished in 24 months time WATSON will be
in the side, so groom him now.
Hes only played 2 or 3 tests thats why hes made no runs/wickets yet.

Incorrect mal. He's made no runs and taken no wickets cos he isn't very good.

[Adelaide Hawk]

The thing a lot of people may not realise about Watson is has a 1st class batting average of just under 50, which makes him a fairly handy player IMHO.

[rod_rooster]

The thing a lot of people may not realise about Watson is has a 1st class batting average of just under 50, which makes him a fairly handy player IMHO.

In first class cricket. Test cricket is a different level again.

[mal]

DrINKS
EG 3/309

Im baffled Brett Lee the breeze, Mcgrath 1st change into the breeze.
Off course no wickets .
At least Clark got to open this morning after telling the press he was underbowled yesterday.
Colingwood a well deserved century
Pieterson awesome again
Clark into the breeze 4 overs 0/10
Mcgrath's first over into the breeze 0/12 Plonkerson 3 boundaries.
Very hard to come on when batters are set like Clark did all day yesterday.
Clark back on downwind bowled the best over of the test, nearly killing Colingwood
with some well directed short pitched bowling.

We are in strife, unless the worlds greatest leggie performs some magic later.

As for you Watson knockers, A 5th bowler would be handy in this test fellas

[mal]

The thing a lot of people may not realise about Watson is has a 1st class batting average of just under 50, which makes him a fairly handy player IMHO.

In first class cricket. Test cricket is a different level again.

When he plays a dozen tests we can rightfully adjudicate.

[magpie in the 80's]

The thing a lot of people may not realise about Watson is has a 1st class batting average of just under 50, which makes him a fairly handy player IMHO.

In first class cricket. Test cricket is a different level again.

When he plays a dozen tests we can rightfully adjudicate.

GOTTA GET THERE 1ST MAL

[mighty_tiger_79]

the POMS are batting slow, the DRAW is the likely result

[Rik E Boy]

REB's verdict after four sessions.

1. The Wicket. An absolute road, if it breaks up then a draw is not the most likely result.
2. Lee. Is crap. Averages 40+ against England and you can't have a four man attack when someone averages 40 plus against that opponent.
3. Watson. Copping a lot of critisism even though he is not playing so can't figure that out. Watto is worth a punt at the expense of Martyn or Clarke in my view. How can you bag the guy for the test cricket he HASN'T played?
4. Punter's captaincy. Not good yesterday but what Australia need to do is to make England work very hard for their runs. The Poms have a defensive mindset (KP and Freddie excluded) and as such might go on to 600 like Australia did in the first test. Keep it tight Punter and for chrissakes give Clark a bit more bowling.
5. Selection. Magill's record in Adelaide is not that great but in hindsight it might have been better to have him instead of Micheal Clarke bowling so much in this match. Having said that, we will need Pup to bat well when it comes to saving the game. I believe the Poms will bat us right out of it.

regards,

REB