SAAFL Div C5 (2011)

[woodublieve12]

Some folk just don't like them, to say 1 club is ruining it for everyone else is an ignorant statement, they have exercised their democratic right not to play them, get over it you'll still have 10 trebles throughout the year.
I for one don't like them as a player due to the fact that unless you play A's your playing at a timeslot whicch possibly has more of an impact on work and family committments. Call me old fashioned but what is wrong with 12.15 and 2.15 on a Saturday afternoon

i think the point SD is getting at thats its VERY difficult to get all the volunteers for those times you speak of.... i know i found it very difficult to find individuals to help, also its harder to get players... that was ,my experience anyways

[LMA]

Some folk just don't like them, to say 1 club is ruining it for everyone else is an ignorant statement, they have exercised their democratic right not to play them, get over it you'll still have 10 trebles throughout the year.
I for one don't like them as a player due to the fact that unless you play A's your playing at a timeslot whicch possibly has more of an impact on work and family committments. Call me old fashioned but what is wrong with 12.15 and 2.15 on a Saturday afternoon

i think the point SD is getting at thats its VERY difficult to get all the volunteers for those times you speak of.... i know i found it very difficult to find individuals to help, also its harder to get players... that was ,my experience anyways

I understand that some clubs struggle to find volunteers, but all this is achieving is flogging the helpers you have week in week out if you don't have the cattle. To me it's a bit of a 20/20 cricket syndrome, it's a good novelty to play one or two a season especially against an old rival, but when you start playing triples against every team every week or as in 20/20 cricket too many games and tournaments, it loses it's appeal and eventually people will lose interst.

[johnnyryan]

Some folk just don't like them, to say 1 club is ruining it for everyone else is an ignorant statement, they have exercised their democratic right not to play them, get over it you'll still have 10 trebles throughout the year.
I for one don't like them as a player due to the fact that unless you play A's your playing at a timeslot whicch possibly has more of an impact on work and family committments. Call me old fashioned but what is wrong with 12.15 and 2.15 on a Saturday afternoon

i think the point SD is getting at thats its VERY difficult to get all the volunteers for those times you speak of.... i know i found it very difficult to find individuals to help, also its harder to get players... that was ,my experience anyways

I understand that some clubs struggle to find volunteers, but all this is achieving is flogging the helpers you have week in week out if you don't have the cattle. To me it's a bit of a 20/20 cricket syndrome, it's a good novelty to play one or two a season especially against an old rival, but when you start playing triples against every team every week or as in 20/20 cricket too many games and tournaments, it loses it's appeal and eventually people will lose interst.

Well said

[woodublieve12]

fair enough... thats your opinion and i respect that... but sorry i just dont agree...

[Jabber]

Some folk just don't like them, to say 1 club is ruining it for everyone else is an ignorant statement, they have exercised their democratic right not to play them, get over it you'll still have 10 trebles throughout the year.
I for one don't like them as a player due to the fact that unless you play A's your playing at a timeslot whicch possibly has more of an impact on work and family committments. Call me old fashioned but what is wrong with 12.15 and 2.15 on a Saturday afternoon

i think the point SD is getting at thats its VERY difficult to get all the volunteers for those times you speak of.... i know i found it very difficult to find individuals to help, also its harder to get players... that was ,my experience anyways

I understand that some clubs struggle to find volunteers, but all this is achieving is flogging the helpers you have week in week out if you don't have the cattle. To me it's a bit of a 20/20 cricket syndrome, it's a good novelty to play one or two a season especially against an old rival, but when you start playing triples against every team every week or as in 20/20 cricket too many games and tournaments, it loses it's appeal and eventually people will lose interst.

Well said

The problem there being is this: 20/20 Cricket is more popular than it ever has been, with record crowds in all States in Australia, and record contracts all around the world, and is showing no signs of slowing...

So loooks like, judging by your analagy, Triple Headers are the sexy form of football scheduling, where the money is, and going to grow the game into new markets!

Bring on Triple Headers!!!

[woodublieve12]

well said

[LMA]

My analagy as you put it has nothing to do with money or form of a game, we're amateur and the game has not changed, I'm pointing out that people will tire of it if the hand is over played. How many players are gonna be lost if it becomes a regular part of the fixture where you have to play every week at 10.15am competing against working overtime, taking your kids to their sports, friday night social life or on the other hand play at 5 or 6 every Saturday night in the middle of winter where there is social and family outings, AFL football. 2 a year is plenty, promote the day, play a local or rival club, have past players, fundraisers, bands etc make them an event on the calender not just a every week same ol against any ol opposition.

Btw I can't recall the t20 world cup being a huge success, Big bash yes but that has alot to do with the time of the year it is played

[S Demon]

Some folk just don't like them, to say 1 club is ruining it for everyone else is an ignorant statement, they have exercised their democratic right not to play them, get over it you'll still have 10 trebles throughout the year.
I for one don't like them as a player due to the fact that unless you play A's your playing at a timeslot whicch possibly has more of an impact on work and family committments. Call me old fashioned but what is wrong with 12.15 and 2.15 on a Saturday afternoon

No, one club going against what everyone else is doing for no apparent reason is ignorant. Playing at our ground at 2.15pm is a HUGE step backwards in my opinion. We even offered to start the B's and A's earlier so the C grade started about 3.45pm. If you can play at 2.15pm, you can play at 3.45pm regardless of work or family commitments.

North Haven will miss out on approx 70-80 people watching the A's and B's, 70-80 people buying a pie or a sausage and bread and 70-80 people buying a couple of beers. We will find it hard to do the BBQ and canteen in a stand alone game on a saturday at 2.15pm. BOTH clubs lose in the end

It also makes it harder for us to get helpers. People helped out last year who wouldn't normally, simply for the fact they could then watch the A grade at the same ground, which is the main reason they were going to the footy

[woodublieve12]

Some folk just don't like them, to say 1 club is ruining it for everyone else is an ignorant statement, they have exercised their democratic right not to play them, get over it you'll still have 10 trebles throughout the year.
I for one don't like them as a player due to the fact that unless you play A's your playing at a timeslot whicch possibly has more of an impact on work and family committments. Call me old fashioned but what is wrong with 12.15 and 2.15 on a Saturday afternoon

No, one club going against what everyone else is doing for no apparent reason is ignorant. Playing at our ground at 2.15pm is a HUGE step backwards in my opinion. We even offered to start the B's and A's earlier so the C grade started about 3.45pm. If you can play at 2.15pm, you can play at 3.45pm regardless of work or family commitments.

North Haven will miss out on approx 70-80 people watching the A's and B's, 70-80 people buying a pie or a sausage and bread and 70-80 people buying a couple of beers. We will find it hard to do the BBQ and canteen in a stand alone game on a saturday at 2.15pm. BOTH clubs lose in the end

It also makes it harder for us to get helpers. People helped out last year who wouldn't normally, simply for the fact they could then watch the A grade at the same ground, which is the main reason they were going to the footy

very well said... spot on with everything there

[S Demon]

Some folk just don't like them, to say 1 club is ruining it for everyone else is an ignorant statement, they have exercised their democratic right not to play them, get over it you'll still have 10 trebles throughout the year.
I for one don't like them as a player due to the fact that unless you play A's your playing at a timeslot whicch possibly has more of an impact on work and family committments. Call me old fashioned but what is wrong with 12.15 and 2.15 on a Saturday afternoon

i think the point SD is getting at thats its VERY difficult to get all the volunteers for those times you speak of.... i know i found it very difficult to find individuals to help, also its harder to get players... that was ,my experience anyways

I understand that some clubs struggle to find volunteers, but all this is achieving is flogging the helpers you have week in week out if you don't have the cattle. To me it's a bit of a 20/20 cricket syndrome, it's a good novelty to play one or two a season especially against an old rival, but when you start playing triples against every team every week or as in 20/20 cricket too many games and tournaments, it loses it's appeal and eventually people will lose interst.

We get different and new helpers at triple headers because more people are inclined to help because they know they can also watch the A grade at the same ground. You have to play against a team every week anyway, triple headers just make things so much easier. We're going to play Ingle Farm and Kenilworth at 10.15am at their ground so its a triple header for them and we can all go back and watch half the B's and all of the A's. Please tell me what is wrong with that scenario and try and keep your argument to the same sport

[LMA]

But it could also be 70-80 people not being at your club spending coin because it's not open due to no games on, it goes both ways. If clubs can't get enough people to help out running facilities and football operations on every saturday for 2 and 1 teams respectively, then clubs should look at reducing the amount of sides they field.

People like em people don't for varying reasons, no club should forced, pestered or intimidated into accepting what other clubs want, if they have a choice in the matter, that's their right and it should be respected.
This could go on forever ala Labour vs Liberal, over and out.

[S Demon]

My analagy as you put it has nothing to do with money or form of a game, we're amateur and the game has not changed, I'm pointing out that people will tire of it if the hand is over played. How many players are gonna be lost if it becomes a regular part of the fixture where you have to play every week at 10.15am competing against working overtime, taking your kids to their sports, friday night social life or on the other hand play at 5 or 6 every Saturday night in the middle of winter where there is social and family outings, AFL football. 2 a year is plenty, promote the day, play a local or rival club, have past players, fundraisers, bands etc make them an event on the calender not just a every week same ol against any ol opposition.

Btw I can't recall the t20 world cup being a huge success, Big bash yes but that has alot to do with the time of the year it is played

All of your arguments for blokes not playing are valid - and they also apply to A graders who play at 2.15pm. Not just C graders who play at 10.15am. Work, family, social life. Probably the 3 most common reasons other than injury as to why we lose players to our great game. Triple Headers aren't going to change that. For some guys, they can play early and finish early and still have the chance to spend most of the day with their family if they choose to. There are arguments on both sides of the coin. Obviously you don't like triple headers. I do, and our football club does and that's why I'm annoyed at North Haven.

We've got more c grade players than ever before because blokes like the fact they can have a kick and catch, then have a few beers and still watch the rest of their team mates play. It brought our club closer together as one last year, instead of the old A's, B's - and, oh yeah, how did the C grade go?

We're not really going to get anywhere and can both argue till we're blue in the face about the pros and cons. So I'll leave it at this:

Like triple headers: Hope Valley, Plympton, WB12, Jabber, S Demon
Don't like triple headers: LMA and North Haven

[S Demon]

But it could also be 70-80 people not being at your club spending coin because it's not open due to no games on, it goes both ways. If clubs can't get enough people to help out running facilities and football operations on every saturday for 2 and 1 teams respectively, then clubs should look at reducing the amount of sides they field.

People like em people don't for varying reasons, no club should forced, pestered or intimidated into accepting what other clubs want, if they have a choice in the matter, that's their right and it should be respected.
This could go on forever ala Labour vs Liberal, over and out.

OR PLAY TRIPLE HEADERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LMA]

Some folk just don't like them, to say 1 club is ruining it for everyone else is an ignorant statement, they have exercised their democratic right not to play them, get over it you'll still have 10 trebles throughout the year.
I for one don't like them as a player due to the fact that unless you play A's your playing at a timeslot whicch possibly has more of an impact on work and family committments. Call me old fashioned but what is wrong with 12.15 and 2.15 on a Saturday afternoon

i think the point SD is getting at thats its VERY difficult to get all the volunteers for those times you speak of.... i know i found it very difficult to find individuals to help, also its harder to get players... that was ,my experience anyways

I understand that some clubs struggle to find volunteers, but all this is achieving is flogging the helpers you have week in week out if you don't have the cattle. To me it's a bit of a 20/20 cricket syndrome, it's a good novelty to play one or two a season especially against an old rival, but when you start playing triples against every team every week or as in 20/20 cricket too many games and tournaments, it loses it's appeal and eventually people will lose interst.

We get different and new helpers at triple headers because more people are inclined to help because they know they can also watch the A grade at the same ground. You have to play against a team every week anyway, triple headers just make things so much easier. We're going to play Ingle Farm and Kenilworth at 10.15am at their ground so its a triple header for them and we can all go back and watch half the B's and all of the A's. Please tell me what is wrong with that scenario and try and keep your argument to the same sport

because people work saturday mornings take their kids to sports saturday mornings which is more important than this level of footy.
believe me go down this road where every game is played at 10.15 you will lose alot of players and clubs will lose sides

[johnnyryan]

My analagy as you put it has nothing to do with money or form of a game, we're amateur and the game has not changed, I'm pointing out that people will tire of it if the hand is over played. How many players are gonna be lost if it becomes a regular part of the fixture where you have to play every week at 10.15am competing against working overtime, taking your kids to their sports, friday night social life or on the other hand play at 5 or 6 every Saturday night in the middle of winter where there is social and family outings, AFL football. 2 a year is plenty, promote the day, play a local or rival club, have past players, fundraisers, bands etc make them an event on the calender not just a every week same ol against any ol opposition.

Btw I can't recall the t20 world cup being a huge success, Big bash yes but that has alot to do with the time of the year it is played

All of your arguments for blokes not playing are valid - and they also apply to A graders who play at 2.15pm. Not just C graders who play at 10.15am. Work, family, social life. Probably the 3 most common reasons other than injury as to why we lose players to our great game. Triple Headers aren't going to change that. For some guys, they can play early and finish early and still have the chance to spend most of the day with their family if they choose to. There are arguments on both sides of the coin. Obviously you don't like triple headers. I do, and our football club does and that's why I'm annoyed at North Haven.

We've got more c grade players than ever before because blokes like the fact they can have a kick and catch, then have a few beers and still watch the rest of their team mates play. It brought our club closer together as one last year, instead of the old A's, B's - and, oh yeah, how did the C grade go?

We're not really going to get anywhere and can both argue till we're blue in the face about the pros and cons. So I'll leave it at this:

Like triple headers: Hope Valley, Plympton, WB12, Jabber, S Demon
Don't like triple headers: LMA and North Haven

Im pro choice

[Footy Chick]

Ok. I think Hope Valley will leave this argument alone for now.

ALthough, to me is seems like Pricey has the club by the balls in being able to dictate when the C grade plays. I thought the c's playing after the A grade last year at Havens worked pretty well..

I'll have a chat with Uncle Terry

[S Demon]

Im pro choice

Ha ha, fair enough. I like that

[S Demon]

Ok. I think Hope Valley will leave this argument alone for now.

ALthough, to me is seems like Pricey has the club by the balls in being able to dictate when the C grade plays. I thought the c's playing after the A grade last year at Havens worked pretty well..

I'll have a chat with Uncle Terry

Don't you mean S Demon will?

[LMA]

FTR I'm not aginst them, I'm just against them every single week. I really don't care as it doesn't concern me this year, but dissing a club cause you don't get your own way annoys me, is what sarted this.

Bat,Ball,Home

[Demon Juke]

Ok. I think Hope Valley will leave this argument alone for now.

ALthough, to me is seems like Pricey has the club by the balls in being able to dictate when the C grade plays. I thought the c's playing after the A grade last year at Havens worked pretty well..

I'll have a chat with Uncle Terry

Maybe he does not want the rest of the club to notice that he can't count and have 19 players on the field The best part of starting at 10.15am is you can use a saafl umpire if you struggle to have a umpire of your own and a lot of clubs used saafl umpires last year.