BL&G Football League

[brook]

My question is do we allocate more points to make the league stronger and back to
Where it once was, the best league outside the SANFL.
The clubs that will struggle are the ones like South who lose 6 or 7 locals in one hit
But can only replace them with B graders or with their points.
This may only be one or two players assuming they already have players worth points
In the system.

[skipper]

The points system has evened out the comp this year, but there are still too many loopholes in it for teams with the money to do so. Perhaps the eveness of the comp is more a fact that teams are generally weaker than in past years?
When a team recruits to cover losses - like Agars, etc. - is it fair when they return? Doesn't this make a mockery of the points system? Other teams have planned for the season, and all of a sudden the playing field isn't level anyore, especially if planning is hampered by injuries to new players. Is it fair Tanunda and Willaston get "get out of jail" cards?

Struggling to see what your point is here Hotty, any local lad returning to their home club after having a crack at league can only been seen as a positive whether its for the boxheads or any other club, same rule on this one applies to all clubs, better than them selling their services to the highest bidder.

Good to see that the BS about Wacka was incorrect.

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[skipper]

My question is do we allocate more points to make the league stronger and back to
Where it once was, the best league outside the SANFL.
The clubs that will struggle are the ones like South who lose 6 or 7 locals in one hit
But can only replace them with B graders or with their points.
This may only be one or two players assuming they already have players worth points
In the system.

No a bad topic here Brook but that the down side is that the clubs with more money will always win out here, some clubs will struggle to fill their spots whether its 5 players or 18 that they can bring in.

Skip

[brook]

The points system has evened out the comp this year, but there are still too many loopholes in it for teams with the money to do so. Perhaps the eveness of the comp is more a fact that teams are generally weaker than in past years?
When a team recruits to cover losses - like Agars, etc. - is it fair when they return? Doesn't this make a mockery of the points system? Other teams have planned for the season, and all of a sudden the playing field isn't level anyore, especially if planning is hampered by injuries to new players. Is it fair Tanunda and Willaston get "get out of jail" cards?

Struggling to see what your point is here Hotty, any local lad returning to their home club after having a crack at league can only been seen as a positive whether its for the boxheads or any other club, same rule on this one applies to all clubs, better than them selling their services to the highest bidder.

Good to see that the BS about Wacka was incorrect.

Skip

Totally agree on both counts.
1. Any local player coming back from a league club to their home club can only be a good thing.
Quality player and quality bloke.

2. Wacka can’t be doing too bad a job. I can think of 7 other clubs would like to be in his position at the moment.

[Maybe]

Good to see that the BS about Wacka was incorrect.
Skip

i also find it hard to beleive seeing they are sitting in the position they are.
But also know for a fact of 2 previous coaches of the BLG have been approached allready to see if they were interested
This was relayed to me by a GCFC committeman

[UNCLE SAM]

Good to see that the BS about Wacka was incorrect.
Skip

i also find it hard to beleive seeing they are sitting in the position they are.
But also know for a fact of 2 previous coaches of the BLG have been approached allready to see if they were interested
This was relayed to me by a GCFC committeman

Don't be fooled Wakka is under tremendous presure to hold his job as knives are out everywhere.
Senior players have had at least 3 meetings and at one a former Presdient was called in to mediate.
Some senior players threatened to walk before 30 June 2011 is totally correct.
Watch this space if Centrals lose to South on Saturday.
Great pity as they are sitting second on table and Wakka is a good coach and a great person.

[brook]

Good to see that the BS about Wacka was incorrect.
Skip

i also find it hard to beleive seeing they are sitting in the position they are.
But also know for a fact of 2 previous coaches of the BLG have been approached allready to see if they were interested
This was relayed to me by a GCFC committeman

Can you name these coaches and are they coaching at the moment
Or is this just another S**t Stir.

[Maybe]

One is back coaching and the other is coaching but not to the standard of BLG
No want name them
Was told in confidence

[hotspur]

Back to the Agars saga. I don't have a problem with teams developing their squads from locals. BUT I don't think it's fair that a guy who goes down to Adelaide at League level can waltz back into their local club immediately making them stronger when he fails, and when he has clearly signalled his intention to leave. The league needs to have a fall back system for this otherwise the points system is a mockery. One rule at the start of a season doesn't necessarily apply on June 29th.
So Agars comes back and takes Tanunda to a premiership, but clubs with less population and money can't compete with this; their planning for a season goes out of the window. THE PLAYING FIELD IS NO LONGER LEVEL, LIKE IT WAS AT THE START OF THE SEASON.
Sorry Swooper, but I won't get an unbiased view from you.
The Johncock saga is even worse. He's not even a local - no don't try and justify 25 games as a local.

[Swooper]

Back to the Agars saga. I don't have a problem with teams developing their squads from locals. BUT I don't think it's fair that a guy who goes down to Adelaide at League level can waltz back into their local club immediately making them stronger when he fails, and when he has clearly signalled his intention to leave. The league needs to have a fall back system for this otherwise the points system is a mockery. One rule at the start of a season doesn't necessarily apply on June 29th.
So Agars comes back and takes Tanunda to a premiership, but clubs with less population and money can't compete with this; their planning for a season goes out of the window. THE PLAYING FIELD IS NO LONGER LEVEL, LIKE IT WAS AT THE START OF THE SEASON.
Sorry Swooper, but I won't get an unbiased view from you.
The Johncock saga is even worse. He's not even a local - no don't try and justify 25 games as a local.

Agars had an agreement with westies that if he did not make it he came back to Tanunda, I can't see the problem, everyone new this. Johncock is very different and he should be worth points. Agars is not ruled by the points system and what is the problem with lads like this returning to their home clubs, good on him. The playing field is never level, thats why some clubs win and some lose, Tanunda is having their time in the sun but it will not last and someone else will take over very soon.

[hotspur]

Point missed Swooper, isn't the points system, or import rule or whatever meant to keep playing field level, so one team can't dominate for too long - that's what it's advertised as by our benevolent league anyway.
It doesn't allow for the whims of players who make personal decisions in Juneon the basis of money.

[skipper]

Point missed Swooper, isn't the points system, or import rule or whatever meant to keep playing field level, so one team can't dominate for too long - that's what it's advertised as by our benevolent league anyway.
It doesn't allow for the whims of players who make personal decisions in Juneon the basis of money.

Hotty I can't see the SAGA here either, a local lad returning to his club, thats what we want. Lets face it Agars has hardly left, everyone in BLG new he was probably coming back it has been talked about on here for the past few months and he has nothing to do with the points system. Johncock yes that is another story but still have not heard whether he his playing there or not.

Looking back on what you have said basically means that all clubs shall have a fixed list at the start of the season and cannot recruit up til june 30, think you may have a problem with this one. Just think of Baker under this scenario, gets sacked but he can't move to another club. Plenty of scenario's see players change clubs (money, moving, jobs, family, sacked, not happy and don't make it), you can't block them if they fit into the points system, yes it has it's floors (Johncock) but we are also assuming that Willaston is out of points.

Just like Swoopy Poop and Brooky I just can't see the issue with a champion local player, which ever club he is from, having a crack at the league level, not making it and then returning, part from the fact what he is doing fits well into the rules and everyone on this site and in the league new what the deal was with him. Is there a hint of jealousy here Hotty?

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[Osama]

Fact is, the Donny's would be better earning bank interest, rather than buying Stiffy back from the double blues.
Keep tanking until the Boxheads finish their time in the sun.
Enjoyed the hospitality last night Swooper.

Osama.

[Swooper]

Fact is, the Donny's would be better earning bank interest, rather than buying Stiffy back from the double blues.
Keep tanking until the Boxheads finish their time in the sun.
Enjoyed the hospitality last night Swooper.

Osama.

Good stuff Osama, have a finger on you now. Great night, one thing Tanunda does well is look after its sponsors and all involved in the club. We get criticised for having a crack here but we are no different to any other club, it is very hard to get money at the moment, this is why we have nights like this and it works.

How many games is Kingsley going to play this season Osama? good to see him having a kick, this is exactly what we want from our local champions.

Hotty misses a point with Agars, he is still a registered player at Tanunda and all clubs know this. Final point to Hotty, if your club (don't know who you support) had a registered player playing in the SANFL and they wanted to come back, what would you do? Take your high moral ground and not allow it, somehow I think the other 99% of your supporters would welcome him with open arms just like every club in the BLG and the rest of South Australia would. Final point for me on this topic. Good luck to all on saturday, it may well be very wet.

[brook]

Back to the Agars saga. I don't have a problem with teams developing their squads from locals. BUT I don't think it's fair that a guy who goes down to Adelaide at League level can waltz back into their local club immediately making them stronger when he fails, and when he has clearly signalled his intention to leave. The league needs to have a fall back system for this otherwise the points system is a mockery. One rule at the start of a season doesn't necessarily apply on June 29th.
So Agars comes back and takes Tanunda to a premiership, but clubs with less population and money can't compete with this; their planning for a season goes out of the window. THE PLAYING FIELD IS NO LONGER LEVEL, LIKE IT WAS AT THE START OF THE SEASON.
Sorry Swooper, but I won't get an unbiased view from you.
The Johncock saga is even worse. He's not even a local - no don't try and justify 25 games as a local.

Are you saying that he should stay at westies and see the year out?
What happens if a player gets dropped from the two’s before June 30
Is he allowed to come back then or should he sit the year out and wait
til next year.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.

[antidog]

This weeks tips,
Barossa District vs Kapunda, Barossa just, will be a good game (2 goals)

South Gawler vs Gawler Central . Easy game for GC ( 10 goals)

Tanunda vs Nuriootpa, Tan (5 goals)

Willaston vs Freeling Willaston (3-6 goals)

[brook]

Barossa v Kapunda Kapunda just, Barossa to up & down (5 goals)
South v Centrals Centrals to so why Wacka should stay around (5 goals)
Tanunda v Nuri If Agars is back (10 goals +)
Willaston v Free Freeling to out muscle (2 goals)

[hotspur]

No sour grapes Brooky, and what makes you think I support a team in the BLG - anyway it's a belief that players make their own beds, but so many want to have the best of both worlds.
Good luck to any player in this position if you can use it to your advantage, at any club. That doesn't make it right. Saga over!

This week -
Centrals too strong for South who need a coach badly to stabilize club. Centrals still have one - at the moment according to gossip?
Barossa and Kapunda - injuries at Bombers may make it difficult and it'll be wet, but Dogs luck will run out, Kapunda
Tanunda will beat Nuri - too good all over field.
Willaston will beat Freeling - Freeling too many still out, and Willaston confidence up. Mensforth v Taylor would be great to see.

[UNCLE SAM]

No sour grapes Brooky, and what makes you think I support a team in the BLG - anyway it's a belief that players make their own beds, but so many want to have the best of both worlds.
Good luck to any player in this position if you can use it to your advantage, at any club. That doesn't make it right. Saga over!

This week -
Centrals too strong for South who need a coach badly to stabilize club. Centrals still have one - at the moment according to gossip?
Barossa and Kapunda - injuries at Bombers may make it difficult and it'll be wet, but Dogs luck will run out, Kapunda
Tanunda will beat Nuri - too good all over field.
Willaston will beat Freeling - Freeling too many still out, and Willaston confidence up. Mensforth v Taylor would be great to see.

Hot stop crying as Osam said if Agars was one of your players the rule would be the best thing since sliced bread.
Why stop players that are registered with a BLGFA club, played juniors for the club, has no points allocated to him if he comes back in round 2 , 4 or 10.
Any decent coaching panel would have know he would be back and planned accordingly

This weeks winners

Willaston v Freeling if the Donnies are to be considered a challenge to Tan they must flog Freeling-Donnies by 10 goals
South v Centrals South in a upset-tigers injury problems and knives getting sharper for wakka-loss and he may well be joining Spike
Tan V Nuri close game but Tan to win by 4 goals
Bar v Kapunda if played at Kap would win but down at willaimstown Doggies by 3 goals

Anyone going up to Pirie to watch the Country Champs
Never been before but might head up on Saturday and barrack for the Tanunda boys that are again all playing and make up nearly a third of the Zone team.

[MOHAMMAD]

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Hot stop crying as Osam said if Agars was one of your players the rule would be the best thing since sliced bread.
Why stop players that are registered with a BLGFA club, played juniors for the club, has no points allocated to him if he comes back in round 2 , 4 or 10.
Any decent coaching panel would have know he would be back and planned accordingly

This weeks winners

Willaston v Freeling if the Donnies are to be considered a challenge to Tan they must flog Freeling-Donnies by 10 goals
South v Centrals South in a upset-tigers injury problems and knives getting sharper for wakka-loss and he may well be joining Spike
Tan V Nuri close game but Tan to win by 4 goals
Bar v Kapunda if played at Kap would win but down at willaimstown Doggies by 3 goals

Anyone going up to Pirie to watch the Country Champs
Never been before but might head up on Saturday and barrack for the Tanunda boys that are again all playing and make up nearly a third of the Zone team.

Dont think I'll waste my time with the kick and giggle carnival. I might take the opportunity to watch a game in another league.
Are you catching a ride with Laubke Uncle Sam since he's driving the mini bus to Pirie.