1960's SANFL

[redandblack]

It's interesting just how many of that West side can often still be seen at the club now.

John Ryan, Ken Eustice, Jimmy Wright, Peter Phipps, etc.

Jeff Bray was another until he passed away.

One of my prized possessions is a recent photo with Neil Kerley, Ken Eustice and Brian Faehse.

[mal]

I have a Sunday MAiL dated 7/5/60
Game 1

WT 3-8...4-8...8-15...11-19 [85]
SA 1-0...5-5.....5-8.....6-10 [46]
BEST PLAYERS
WT : ashby, slaven, morrell, payze , bills, landers, townsend
SA : kitchen, doyle,mortimer, parkinson, kimber, panizza
MAIN GOALSCORERS
WT: clingly 3, morrell 2, connolly 2,townsend 2
SA: lane 2

Here are some edited comments

Ground was heavy with a mud patch in the centre
WT kicked with the breeze
WT rucks, centre line on top in 1st qtr, erred with overdoing the short game
SA fought back well in the 2nd qtr, ruckmen Mortimer and Kimber going strongly, Kitchen triking a rich vein of success in the centre
SA new goalsneak Lane had scored 2 good goals at half time
Clingly [WT] was sent to full FF in the 3rd qtr[and kicked 2 goals], Kingston out to CHF, progress was made with these moves
Doyle [SA] had played strongly at CHB
Roennfeldt[SA] had successfully stuck to Kingston
Wind dropped at 3/4 time, and further showers
WT finished on in the rain, Landers and Bills gave excellent support to the big team of Morrell and Townsend
Ashby at CHB was selected as WT best player
Slaven played well on the wing
SA best for 4 qtrs was Doyle at CHB
Ron Kitchen had a purple patch in the Centre in the first half

ONE EYED SUPPORTER [WT]
Summary by the one eyed supPORTer, who had a column back in 1960[anyone remember this column ?]

It was a case of the rabble pulling us down to thier level, but when they started playing us instead of the ball we began to hit our straps
When Big Mick [Clingly] went to FF we began hitting our straps
From the way Kingston has gone at CHF , thats where he should stay
And what about grandpa Ashby?. Never rattled and full of tricks, he murdered SA attacks
Even a comeback by Mr Football himself wouldnt have saved SA on thier form today [who is Mr Football ????}

ONE EYED SUPPORTER [SA]
The toss beat us, if we had first use of the breeze, we'd have plucked those Eagles clean as a billiard ball
They had 19 men on the ground, one wearing the all white colors of the club, was among their best
Did u cop this Ned Kelly act against Parkinson? Parkinson marked it clearly, but the ump took it away and gave it to Connolly, when our boy protested he even copped a 15 yard penalty
What happened to Lindsay today?, Didnt he want to get his pants muddy ? Ron Kitchen did him like a dinner[a reference to Lindsay Head , who scored 0-1 in this game]
You'll need a dozen Shearmans if your going to get into the final 4, Torrens

It was only a game in Round 3, but some interesting names
Will do the other 3 games in seperate threads
PA V ST
WA V GL
NW V NA

QUESTIONS
How good was Mick Clingly? Hear his name a fair bit from those days
Geoff Kingston had a 301 game career, and was he in the media as well ?
Payze was in the best players , any relation to the Payze who played for the Adelaide Crows and WWT ?

[redandblack]

Mick Clingly was a rugged player, from memory not outstanding, but pretty good. I think he was a very good cricketer as well and represented SA(?).

Geoff Kingston was a very good key forward and wrote for the Advertiser for many years, IIRC.

[JK]

Not good quality, but this is one of Modra's best IMO

[Mr Beefy]

Not good quality, but this is one of Modra's best IMO

You cant expect good quality footage in the 1960s

[robranisgod]

I ONE EYED SUPPORTER [WT]
Even a comeback by Mr Football himself wouldnt have saved SA on thier form today [who is Mr Football ????}
QUESTIONS
How good was Mick Clingly? Hear his name a fair bit from those days
Geoff Kingston had a 301 game career, and was he in the media as well ?
Payze was in the best players , any relation to the Payze who played for the Adelaide Crows and WWT ?

Mr Football was Fos Williams who coached South Adelaide in 1960.

Mick Clingly was very good. He was normally a forward, but was b.o.g. in Torrens premiership of 1953 playing as a permanent back pocket player. He was a bit of a lair. One day in the late 1950s he kicked a bag of goals including doing a place kick for his last goal.

Geoff Kingston didn't play anywhere near 301 games. He injured a knee in the mid 1960s thus curtailing his career. He may have kicked 301 goals. He was All Australian in 1961.

Rodney Payze became a high ranking SANFL official as well as being Commissioner of Highways. He is the father of Andrew Payze.

I notice Vin Landers in Torrens best players. Vin Landers and Ken Eusitce were the only two players who wore number 13 in those days for their clubs. Many clubs had numebrs 1 to 21 with 13 missing.

Also Ron Ashby was mentioned in the article. I have previously mentioned that Don Gilbourne was the only player from either side left from the 1952 Grand Final yet Torrens had Lindsay Head, Mick Clingly and Ron Ashby and Port Geof Motley, Neville Hayes and Dave Boyd all still playing from the 1953 Grand Final.

[JK]

Not good quality, but this is one of Modra's best IMO

You cant expect good quality footage in the 1960s

LMFAO .. How the **** did I put that in here?!?!?

[mal]

Geoff Kingston kicked 301 goals not games !
Was the leading goalscorer in 1961 with 79 goals for WT


Only played 130 games, is said to have suffered injuries in his career
There was another injury prone Kingston[Bob]in the late 60s who was very injury prone
He played for NW and later PA
Bob Kingston was one of the very few in the last 50 years that have transferred form NW to PA

[spell_check]

Something that is relevant to the 60s is Lindsay Head. Now, I've just gone through John Storers book and compiled his match by match goals and behinds tallies.

During the 60s he kicked 254.245 from 181 matches, or an accuracy of 50.9%.
His whole career of 325 matches (premiership matches only), netted 518.485 or 51.6% accuracy. I'd suggest his shooting for goal is not as good as you may expect, because a lot of the shots would have come from further out.

Still, 1003 career scoring shots (or avg. 3.08) for a player who was mainly a centre line player is rather eye catching.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Still, 1003 career scoring shots (or avg. 3.08) for a player who was mainly a centre line player is rather eye catching.

I'm not sure about that. I think Head played a lot of footy across half forward, and as a rover resting in the pocket. Maybe those who watched West Torrens more than I did can set us straight.

[spell_check]

Still, 1003 career scoring shots (or avg. 3.08) for a player who was mainly a centre line player is rather eye catching.

I'm not sure about that. I think Head played a lot of footy across half forward, and as a rover resting in the pocket. Maybe those who watched West Torrens more than I did can set us straight.

From what I can see, he did spend some time in the forward lines; however I'm not 100% sure he spent most of his time there.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Just looking at the West Torrens team of 1963, it's surprising they didn't sneak a flag in that era. Goal-to-goal line was Neil Hawke, Geoff Kingston, Joey Gould, John Graham and Tracy Braidwood. Lindsay Head was No.1 rover, the ruck-rovers were Bob Shearman and Fred Bills. Eric Dix and Chris Butler as knock ruckmen, Bob Gibson in the back pocket, and wingmen Don Russell and Brian Livesey. A lot of talent in that team.

[robranisgod]

Still, 1003 career scoring shots (or avg. 3.08) for a player who was mainly a centre line player is rather eye catching.

I'm not sure about that. I think Head played a lot of footy across half forward, and as a rover resting in the pocket. Maybe those who watched West Torrens more than I did can set us straight.

I saw a lot of the second half of Head's career and he almost always played centre in those games. In his early days when Hank was playing centrehe would have played as a rover and half forward.

[mal]

PA V ST ROUND 3 1960
UNLEY OVAL

ST 3-1...5-3...8-5...8-6 [54]
PA 3-2...5-5...6-7..10-12 [72]
BEST ST : williams, halbert, thompson,george, rigney,goodchild
BEST PA : t obst,abley, johns,whelan,thompson,dittmar
MAIN GOALSCORERS
ST : williams 3, douglas 2
PA : johns 5, dittmar 2

EDITED REPORT BY SAM GALLAGHER
A more efficient attack and a strong finishing effort gave PA an 18 point win over ST
The heavy ground and rain in the 2nd half made conditions difficult, but the game never lacked interest
Whelan played hard and close to Fitzgerald most of the day, although the ST champion figured frequently in thier forward moves
Anything they did get past half back died a sudden death at full back where T Obst was outstanding
Williams and Rigney recovered from an early roving challenge
When PA got into attack Johns looked dangerous, he got 2 good goals and PA led at the change
Across the centre Don Thompson was the only clear cut winner
2nd qtr ; Johns eluded Caust for 2 more goals b4 half time
ST were steadied by Halbert at centre, Thomson in ruck, and Rigney and Williams on the ball
The 3rd qtr : was STs best, Williams scouted brilliantly, Halbert was on top
Only the inspired defence of Obst, and the solidarity of Abley restricted the margin
The last qtr: PA got little more from thier rovers who had been beaten
Thier rucks ran on more strongly, and Dittmar covering a lot of ground, finished on a high note at CHF
When ST were within range Obst stopped them from doing any damage
Obst without doubt was PA best and B.O.G, anything better would have been perfection
STs best was Williams
Halbert won the centre from Gill, but not without a fight
Thompson was the best ruckman on the ground


THE ONE EYED BARRACKER
PA [Edited]
Thanks to the full back line we got home
Trevor Obst was the rock of Gibraltar, never missed a thing all day
And what about that sensational Rexie [Johns]down in the cabbage patch at FF
if theres a better goalsneak in the state then he certainly was not at Unley Oval today
Wally[Dittmar] looked like the spirit of progress alongside that CHB today

ST[edited]
Theres no mud in my eye when I say those Port galahs would be worthy opponents for Juventus
If you cant pick it up then kick it off the ground-and a ST player with it. That was their motto all day
One PA player is getting a better reputation than Joe Louis. He'll keep. We have his number


I think the One Eye SuPORTer summed up what the opposition players + spectators might have thought of PA at the turn of the 60s

[redandblack]

Rex Johns was an interesting player. From memory, he didn't look much and was more of a genuine 'goal sneak'. He was a left-footer and used to kick a lot of 'opportunist goals'.

If anyone else remembers him, I'd be interested if my memory is right.

[robranisgod]

Rex Johns was an interesting player. From memory, he didn't look much and was more of a genuine 'goal sneak'. He was a left-footer and used to kick a lot of 'opportunist goals'.

If anyone else remembers him, I'd be interested if my memory is right.

That is pretty much my memory of Rexie Johns too. Port's method made it hard for the full forward and I too recall him having to scrounge for goals which he was fantastic at.

As an aside the Williams who was Sturt's best player in Mal's report was Glynn Williams younger brother of Fos

[mal]

Not good quality, but this is one of Modra's best IMO

You cant expect good quality footage in the 1960s

LMFAO .. How the **** did I put that in here?!?!?

You idiot !
Its not Tony Modra
It was Dennis Modra [NW] who started his career in 1960

[mal]

GL V WA ROUND 3 1960
ADELAIDE OVAL

WA 3-8...7-13...11-15...12-19 [91]
GL 2-1...7-4.......10-6....13-10 [88]
BEST WA : bray, chenoweth, ryan, hokan, garnett, tregenza
BEST GL : peek, herron,abley,howard, hewett,richens
MAIN GOALSCORERS
WA : garnett 3, sims 2, hogan 2
GL : kernahan 5, richens 3, howard 2

REPORT BY GIL LANGLEY [edited]
The tigers were the better side on the day, but lady luck intervened to give WA a win
WA were beaten by GLs big men and across centre
More deliberate handball was WAs salvation
If the bays had used handball to advantage they would have bolted in[take note GWW]
How can you lose in a winning ruck, and across centre? How can you win with so many positional changes ?
Fancy putting Roach on Hewett
Another helper was WAs Chynoweth. He played very well, but his technique when beaten left much to be desired
GL had a handy breeze in the first qtr
WA superior in the open, had GL floundering
The rovers especially tore holes in the bays defence
Ryan and Hogan were instrumental in GLs woeful effort
By 1/2time Kernahan had four kicks and all the maximum was a morale booster for GL
The RED AND BLACKS owed their slender advantage to their sMALl men
Aided by a super effort by Howard and with Hewett dominating at CHF it was anyones game
It was hard to gain any real ascendancy , and WA made the most of their opPORTunities
My vote goes to Bray who showed a consistent effort, and who towards the end was very telling for WA. Never failing to clear, he won the back lines all day
Kernahan kept the bays in the game, and his effort was a fine one
It was a case of Umpire Sweeney having one rule for the rich and one for the poor, and GL were unpopular
GL showed today they are a force, but fellows,keep your eye on the ball and develop a little willpower. You were beaten by brains not manpower

What a review of this game by Gil Langley !
Very hard hitting journo with his comments


ONE EYED SUPPORTER
WA [edited]
It was a no risk job, never in doubt
They made the tigers look as if they were standing still when the handpass to the man going past [take note GWW]opened the way for the 3 points that monoplised the last 5 minutes of the game
We are on the right track now with Jack Richardson and acting VC Barker in the ruck to lend a little bit of height and leaping
And did you see new recruit Frank Hogan burn in the first qtr ! He made the opposition look silly the way he stood still and foot pass to a man ahead , wait till the dry turf comes along
Bray took to goalkeeping like a duck to water
When Phippsie comes in and lets Roach go back to HF right its Westies for premiers

GL [edited]
We may have been done by 3 points but were the signs hung out in royal fashion
Did our rovers half make the West midgets look sMALl fry and how !
When the skipper Colin Richens hit his straps he and Frankie Howard make a terrific pair
You can cry a moaner, but I was waiting for the umpire to recognise a black and yellow jumper. In the first half he forgot our blokes were on the field
Just one instance Baillie takes a beautiful mark over Garrett in the 1st qtr. The whistle stops the play not for a Baillie kick-but Garrett
The new boy Lokan from Tailem Bend kicked the best goal of the day.There are more to come


QUESTIONS
Lokan[GL], any relation to the future NA player ?
Harry Kernahan[who breeds well] leads the goal kickers after rd 3 with 13-4 in 3 games, didnt he play ruck a fair bit ?

[GWW]

I'm guessing the "Lokan" listed is Bill Lokan. He and his brother Geoff won 6 Mail Medals between them in the River Murray Football League. Combined, they played for Tailem Bend, Jervois and Meningie.

I believe there is a connection with the Lokan who played for North (and Fitzroy?), however I'm not certain what that link is, although I will follow that up. I think Bill is current Port (SANFL) player Matthew's grandfather.

[redandblack]

Rex Johns was an interesting player. From memory, he didn't look much and was more of a genuine 'goal sneak'. He was a left-footer and used to kick a lot of 'opportunist goals'.

If anyone else remembers him, I'd be interested if my memory is right.

That is pretty much my memory of Rexie Johns too. Port's method made it hard for the full forward and I too recall him having to scrounge for goals which he was fantastic at.

As an aside the Williams who was Sturt's best player in Mal's report was Glynn Williams younger brother of Fos

Glynn Williams has also been at Westies training this year.

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