by Legs Man » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:41 pm
by cracka » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:58 pm
The Panther wrote:Would a 7 team country div be that bad , If it goes back to just junior and senior colts and with the exception of Sedan all clubs fill junior grades why can't it work ?
by cracka » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:07 am
Legs Man wrote:My biggest gripe - and I have stated it previously - is that the HFL did not play fair on our promotion only giving us the go ahead some 3 plus months later than other clubs have.
It may have actually been longer but I definitely know it was after Xmas hence putting us in a tough situation with recruiting time.
It was impossible to tell parents and potential players which div we would be in and this did put us behind the eight ball.
Given the greater planning time which is crucial after seasons end would have seen us with greater depth across all grades which gives us an even and fair opportunity to succeed.
This is why I am so angry at the league and the protracted manner they dealt with the saga.
by Legs Man » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:23 am
by cracka » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:39 am
Legs Man wrote:Yes it may have voted in Nov but we were not given the go ahead until after the special meeting by Mt Lofty
by Legs Man » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:50 am
by cracka » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:07 am
by Legs Man » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:15 am
by overthehill » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:22 am
by cracka » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:35 am
by Legs Man » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:24 am
by no1rangler » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:26 am
by Dutchy » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:27 am
Legs Man wrote:As previously stated - I hope the other central clubs value us in the competition and assist us in our plight putting personal agendas aside for the betterment of hills football.
by Legs Man » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:36 am
Legs Man wrote:Not blaming them for everything - just most of it as we weren't given the same chance as all other clubs competing.
The HFL is after all the governing body and we complied with the requirements to go up in accordance with the rules - only to be questioned and not trusted.
We knew the penalties for non compliance with junior sides and were prepared for this if we didn't meet our obligations.
This also led to a protracted process which put us at a disadvantage.
Regardless of exact timing - we were given the go ahead later than it should have been.
Please give me your thoughts on:
- Timeframe for us to plan going into a higher league being less than all other clubs competing in Central division.
- Points allocated being less than clubs above us.
If you can provide me with someone else responsible for these 2 crucial elements I am happy to change my views.
Over to you...
by Look Good In Leather » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:49 am
Look Good In Leather wrote:Elmer J Thudpucker wrote:Finally, Looks Good in Leather - surprised you think Bridgewater are in danger given they have to play Uraidla and Echunga, so between the senior colts and B grade will be over 150 points without much effort.
A lot of assumptions here, but here goes.
Bridgewater - curr 139
Expecting them to lose their 3 remaining A-Grade games (Mount Barker, Echunga & Uraidla). They should account for Echunga in the Bs (5 points) but I would expect them to lose the other two. In the senior colts I expect them to beat Echunga & Uraidla (10 points), but the Mount Barker game is hard to call. In the Junior colts I expect them to lose to Mount Barker, with the Echunga and Uraidla games in the balance.
Predicted Final Range: 155-166
Echunga - curr 116
This week very important in the A's against TV with the winner gaining an extra 10 points against a fellow relegation candidate. I expect them to beat both Bridgewater and Hahndorf (20 points). Unlikely to win any of the remaining games in the Bs (0 points). Expecting them to lose the Senior colts against Bridgewater & Hahndorf, with the game against Torrens Valley in the balance. In the junior colts I don't see them beating Hahndorf, but both the Torrens Valley & Bridgewater games are a chance.
Predicted Final Range: 136-157
Torrens Valley - curr 111
As mentioned, this week very important against Echunga and likely to beat Hahndorf (10 points) with the Ironbank game also a chance. Expecting TV to win their B-Grade games against Echunga & Hahndorf (10 points) and a chance to beat Ironbank. Not expecting them to win the Senior colts against Hahndorf or Ironbank but the Echunga game could be a chance. Similar in the Junior Colts I expect losses to Hahndorf & Ironbank but toss a coin in the Echunga game with it being a close one earlier in the year.
Predicted Final Range: 131-164
If Torrens Valley beat Echunga this week then Bridgewater should be safe, but their performance in the A-Grade mean that if a few results go Echunga's way, Bridgewater also find themselves in danger.
Should be an exciting finish.
by cracka » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:15 pm
Legs Man wrote:Not blaming them for everything - just most of it as we weren't given the same chance as all other clubs competing.
The HFL is after all the governing body and we complied with the requirements to go up in accordance with the rules - only to be questioned and not trusted.
We knew the penalties for non compliance with junior sides and were prepared for this if we didn't meet our obligations.
This also led to a protracted process which put us at a disadvantage.
Regardless of exact timing - we were given the go ahead later than it should have been.
Please give me your thoughts on:
- Timeframe for us to plan going into a higher league being less than all other clubs competing in Central division.
- Points allocated being less than clubs above us.
If you can provide me with someone else responsible for these 2 crucial elements I am happy to change my views.
Over to you...
by The Gimp » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:56 pm
Legs Man wrote:Not blaming them for everything - just most of it as we weren't given the same chance as all other clubs competing.
The HFL is after all the governing body and we complied with the requirements to go up in accordance with the rules - only to be questioned and not trusted.
We knew the penalties for non compliance with junior sides and were prepared for this if we didn't meet our obligations.
This also led to a protracted process which put us at a disadvantage.
Regardless of exact timing - we were given the go ahead later than it should have been.
Please give me your thoughts on:
- Timeframe for us to plan going into a higher league being less than all other clubs competing in Central division.
- Points allocated being less than clubs above us.
If you can provide me with someone else responsible for these 2 crucial elements I am happy to change my views.
Over to you...
by Legs Man » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:12 pm
by Elmer J Thudpucker » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:18 pm
Legs Man wrote:Fair call re timeframe - and yes we had started planning - but letting parents and prospective recruits know that late (DEC) immediately puts you at a disadvantage.
I reckon that if all current Central sides were told they cant recruit until after the DEC. AGM there would be a mutiny.
Understand that you can try and recruit earlier - but the uncertainty in players eyes makes it very difficult.
We nearly even lost some club bred players who were wanting to play at the higher level as we couldn't guarantee our position.
This is a problem with the promotion / relegation system - and we aren't the only club to encounter it - which isn't equitable.
How can you tell recruits we are playing in Central when the decision is still hanging on special meetings etc.
Lets see how things play out over the next few weeks - with our hope being to play in Central in 2015.
by Legs Man » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:11 pm
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