Corona Man wrote:Bounce was the first gf...toe poke was that the replay. If so it's one premiership... Either way the score is still zero.
Toe poke was v Geelong in '09, bounce was '10 v Collingwood
I don't specifically recall the toe poke. Just had a quick look though... St.Kilda scored 68 pts for the day... That's the problem with Lyon coached teams IMO
I think the biggest problem with Ross Lyon coached teams is he doesn't blood youth. So they drop off the cliff.
Given he has a 5 year contract now is the time we will see whether he can blood kids and change his game style to keep up with the modern game
Corona Man wrote:Bounce was the first gf...toe poke was that the replay. If so it's one premiership... Either way the score is still zero.
Toe poke was v Geelong in '09, bounce was '10 v Collingwood
I don't specifically recall the toe poke. Just had a quick look though... St.Kilda scored 68 pts for the day... That's the problem with Lyon coached teams IMO
I think the biggest problem with Ross Lyon coached teams is he doesn't blood youth. So they drop off the cliff.
Given he has a 5 year contract now is the time we will see whether he can blood kids and change his game style to keep up with the modern game
He is trying to change his game plan without question. Freo actually kicked 100 pts today but still lost. Which is at least more entertaining than watching them kick 70pts and try to suffocate the opposition. The change will take time to gel... Will the Freo hierarchy stick by him though is the question.
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Corona Man wrote:Bounce was the first gf...toe poke was that the replay. If so it's one premiership... Either way the score is still zero.
Toe poke was v Geelong in '09, bounce was '10 v Collingwood
I don't specifically recall the toe poke. Just had a quick look though... St.Kilda scored 68 pts for the day... That's the problem with Lyon coached teams IMO
I think the biggest problem with Ross Lyon coached teams is he doesn't blood youth. So they drop off the cliff.
Given he has a 5 year contract now is the time we will see whether he can blood kids and change his game style to keep up with the modern game
Yeah like he will blood kids. Why do you think he is throwing money at every KPP player going around. He will try to trade/buy his way out of it
I think if a guy is good enough to keep getting teams into grand finals then he must be pretty darn good. On that day, it's always two darn good sides going at it and the result largely is just up to the players. Malcolm Blight had a reputation for not being good enough to win grand finals at one point. If his sides regularly coughed up finals where they finished higher I'd say there might be something in it.
Ultimately, Fremantle have Nat Fyfe. He's probably not yet reached his peak. Give a coach a midfielder like that to build around and there's always hope.
Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together. Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse
Grahaml wrote:I think if a guy is good enough to keep getting teams into grand finals then he must be pretty darn good. On that day, it's always two darn good sides going at it and the result largely is just up to the players. Malcolm Blight had a reputation for not being good enough to win grand finals at one point. If his sides regularly coughed up finals where they finished higher I'd say there might be something in it.
Ultimately, Fremantle have Nat Fyfe. He's probably not yet reached his peak. Give a coach a midfielder like that to build around and there's always hope.
Ok so maybe I have marked Ross Lyon a little hard. There can only be one premiership coach per year, it's just not been his year....yet. For me the difference between Blight & Lyon is this. Blight would attack to kick a higher score than the opposition, Lyon defends to restrict the opposition to a lower score than his blokes can kick. Blight eventually got the attack/defense balance correct at the crows. Lyon (it appears) this season is trying to get that balance right. Either way, without the cattle, you can't win the big prize. So does the coach make the players, or do the players make the coach?
Question:- If you could replace your current coach with Ross Lyon today, without any fall-out, do you do it?
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Jim05 wrote:Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together. Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse
Youve lost me, havnt seen anything talking about this. Are you referring to Daicos?
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Jim05 wrote:Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together. Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse
Youve lost me, havnt seen anything talking about this. Are you referring to Daicos?
The trade for Treloar I assume he his talking about
Jim05 wrote:Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together. Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse
Youve lost me, havnt seen anything talking about this. Are you referring to Daicos?
They gave up next years first rounder for Treloar so if the Pies finish near the bottom happy days for GWS
Jim05 wrote:Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together. Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse
Youve lost me, havnt seen anything talking about this. Are you referring to Daicos?
They gave up next years first rounder for Treloar so if the Pies finish near the bottom happy days for GWS
Its interesting Jim isnt it. The GWS when they come up against Collingwood will no doubt try and smash then harder lol.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
Jim05 wrote:Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together. Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse
The more I see it and the more I think about it, the stronger the penalty I think May needs. I think 8 weeks as a minimum, but I'd be giving him 10. Those hits are so far in the past, in an era when blokes jogged and weighed 75 kilos. The danger seems to be constantly underestimated amongst football pundits and it needs to end.
Graded as severe impact but only careless and not intentional conduct. Went straight to the tribunal though so they can disagree with the match review panel
Thought the three port lads were very lucky not to get a week. Thought they were cowardly cheap shots and worse than lycett because at least they were at each other
Grahaml wrote:The more I see it and the more I think about it, the stronger the penalty I think May needs. I think 8 weeks as a minimum, but I'd be giving him 10. Those hits are so far in the past, in an era when blokes jogged and weighed 75 kilos. The danger seems to be constantly underestimated amongst football pundits and it needs to end.
Try telling Jezza and Keith Greig that! See the opening moments of this;
Seriously though, I agree. if he'd kept his feet and hit him on the sternum he'd get a week or maybe 2. Because he jumped off the ground, 6-8.
bennymacca wrote:Thought the three port lads were very lucky not to get a week. Thought they were cowardly cheap shots and worse than lycett because at least they were at each other
Couldn't agree more. All three were snipes when their opponents weren't looking.
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Grahaml wrote:I think if a guy is good enough to keep getting teams into grand finals then he must be pretty darn good. On that day, it's always two darn good sides going at it and the result largely is just up to the players. Malcolm Blight had a reputation for not being good enough to win grand finals at one point. If his sides regularly coughed up finals where they finished higher I'd say there might be something in it.
Ultimately, Fremantle have Nat Fyfe. He's probably not yet reached his peak. Give a coach a midfielder like that to build around and there's always hope.
Ok so maybe I have marked Ross Lyon a little hard. There can only be one premiership coach per year, it's just not been his year....yet. For me the difference between Blight & Lyon is this. Blight would attack to kick a higher score than the opposition, Lyon defends to restrict the opposition to a lower score than his blokes can kick. Blight eventually got the attack/defense balance correct at the crows. Lyon (it appears) this season is trying to get that balance right. Either way, without the cattle, you can't win the big prize. So does the coach make the players, or do the players make the coach?
Question:- If you could replace your current coach with Ross Lyon today, without any fall-out, do you do it?
