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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby EB53 » Thu May 29, 2008 8:05 pm

Bubbula, lets deal with the facts. The change rooms at Gepps, are in two sections, the home rooms and the visitors change rooms. With three senior sides, room to change, shower etc had to be spread over both rooms--- common sense will tell you this. Perhaps if more of the 'c' grade players were not so selfish in their attitute they may have been invited to change in the home room. As for the club funding the grand final celebrations, that was never going to happen, for the whole year the 'c' grade did not support the club, and on the night in question, lined up their own eskies on the clubs premises and proceeded to breach club rules. the question of funding was hit on the head by me for this very reason. Good football clubs are well disciplined family orientated organisations. We will not sacrifice our improving standards for the likes of Mr Newman and his band of gypsies
Finally, Matty Newman, what a waste! We will never see the best of him! Unless you think playing C2 is his best.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby wattle » Thu May 29, 2008 8:34 pm

EB53 wrote:Bubbula, Chris newman is exactly where he belongs- out of the way of serious football clubs.
In a club structure, Chris found it impossible to be a team player. By that , I mean that the team he had control of, did not put pressure on the side above his. The players under his guidence, were undisiplined off the field on many occasions breaching club rules. Chris no doubt has some abilities, but I fear , we will never see the best of him because he, like most of his players want to be big fish in the little pond

Sounds like crap to me i no for a fact last year he pushed for all his players to play as high as thet could.Half played in the A grade at wingfield and the rest won the B grade flag,Knowing Klompy myself he told me he put up his hand to play A grade but even though he kicked over 100 goals he couldnt train so that ruled him out,nothing to do with Chris.Klompy and his mates all followed Chris to Ovies with his mob,and he talks highly of Chris's coaching as has been said hes hard its his way or the highway.2 flags in arow aint bad
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Sponge Bob » Thu May 29, 2008 9:26 pm

wattle wrote:
EB53 wrote:Bubbula, Chris newman is exactly where he belongs- out of the way of serious football clubs.
In a club structure, Chris found it impossible to be a team player. By that , I mean that the team he had control of, did not put pressure on the side above his. The players under his guidence, were undisiplined off the field on many occasions breaching club rules. Chris no doubt has some abilities, but I fear , we will never see the best of him because he, like most of his players want to be big fish in the little pond

Sounds like crap to me i no for a fact last year he pushed for all his players to play as high as thet could.Half played in the A grade at wingfield and the rest won the B grade flag,Knowing Klompy myself he told me he put up his hand to play A grade but even though he kicked over 100 goals he couldnt train so that ruled him out,nothing to do with Chris.Klompy and his mates all followed Chris to Ovies with his mob,and he talks highly of Chris's coaching as has been said hes hard its his way or the highway.2 flags in arow aint bad



Wattle, take your blinkers off. Chris Newman is only as good as the clowns that follow him. obviously that's you! I don't think you need to be a Rhode Scholar to work that out. It's still only May, sit tight and hang on, the ride gets better as the season progresses.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby wattle » Thu May 29, 2008 9:55 pm

Captain Cordial wrote:
wattle wrote:
EB53 wrote:Bubbula, Chris newman is exactly where he belongs- out of the way of serious football clubs.
In a club structure, Chris found it impossible to be a team player. By that , I mean that the team he had control of, did not put pressure on the side above his. The players under his guidence, were undisiplined off the field on many occasions breaching club rules. Chris no doubt has some abilities, but I fear , we will never see the best of him because he, like most of his players want to be big fish in the little pond

Sounds like crap to me i no for a fact last year he pushed for all his players to play as high as thet could.Half played in the A grade at wingfield and the rest won the B grade flag,Knowing Klompy myself he told me he put up his hand to play A grade but even though he kicked over 100 goals he couldnt train so that ruled him out,nothing to do with Chris.Klompy and his mates all followed Chris to Ovies with his mob,and he talks highly of Chris's coaching as has been said hes hard its his way or the highway.2 flags in arow aint bad



Wattle, take your blinkers off. Chris Newman is only as good as the clowns that follow him. obviously that's you! I don't think you need to be a Rhode Scholar to work that out. It's still only May, sit tight and hang on, the ride gets better as the season progresses.

Not me bro dont play anymore but no a few who play for him,dont not him much myself but as ive said if blokes follow him he carn't be all that bad a bloke?as far as i no my mates only meet him last year,so only going on that info and my mates aint clowns,but as you have said only time will tell?
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Bubbula » Fri May 30, 2008 9:03 am

Clowns, the funny thing is you probably dont knoiw any of us champ.. lol.. You look like a clown coming on here with a big mouth.. You gutless dog.
A winner never quits and a quitter never wins.. So who came up with the saying quit while your ahead.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Bubbula » Fri May 30, 2008 9:06 am

Captain Cordial wrote:
wattle wrote:
EB53 wrote:Bubbula, Chris newman is exactly where he belongs- out of the way of serious football clubs.
In a club structure, Chris found it impossible to be a team player. By that , I mean that the team he had control of, did not put pressure on the side above his. The players under his guidence, were undisiplined off the field on many occasions breaching club rules. Chris no doubt has some abilities, but I fear , we will never see the best of him because he, like most of his players want to be big fish in the little pond

Sounds like crap to me i no for a fact last year he pushed for all his players to play as high as thet could.Half played in the A grade at wingfield and the rest won the B grade flag,Knowing Klompy myself he told me he put up his hand to play A grade but even though he kicked over 100 goals he couldnt train so that ruled him out,nothing to do with Chris.Klompy and his mates all followed Chris to Ovies with his mob,and he talks highly of Chris's coaching as has been said hes hard its his way or the highway.2 flags in arow aint bad



Wattle, take your blinkers off. Chris Newman is only as good as the clowns that follow him. obviously that's you! I don't think you need to be a Rhode Scholar to work that out. It's still only May, sit tight and hang on, the ride gets better as the season progresses.


Do you even play you gutless sack.. Do you even coach you gutless sack..
A winner never quits and a quitter never wins.. So who came up with the saying quit while your ahead.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Sponge Bob » Fri May 30, 2008 9:31 am

Bubbula wrote:
Captain Cordial wrote:
wattle wrote:
EB53 wrote:Bubbula, Chris newman is exactly where he belongs- out of the way of serious football clubs.
In a club structure, Chris found it impossible to be a team player. By that , I mean that the team he had control of, did not put pressure on the side above his. The players under his guidence, were undisiplined off the field on many occasions breaching club rules. Chris no doubt has some abilities, but I fear , we will never see the best of him because he, like most of his players want to be big fish in the little pond

Sounds like crap to me i no for a fact last year he pushed for all his players to play as high as thet could.Half played in the A grade at wingfield and the rest won the B grade flag,Knowing Klompy myself he told me he put up his hand to play A grade but even though he kicked over 100 goals he couldnt train so that ruled him out,nothing to do with Chris.Klompy and his mates all followed Chris to Ovies with his mob,and he talks highly of Chris's coaching as has been said hes hard its his way or the highway.2 flags in arow aint bad



Wattle, take your blinkers off. Chris Newman is only as good as the clowns that follow him. obviously that's you! I don't think you need to be a Rhode Scholar to work that out. It's still only May, sit tight and hang on, the ride gets better as the season progresses.


Do you even play you gutless sack.. Do you even coach you gutless sack..




This is the mentality of a lot of individuals who follow Chris Newman, really sensible comments aren't they!
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Vits19 » Fri May 30, 2008 9:53 am

Bubbula, lets deal in facts here. Payney was asked numerous times earlier in the year by Charlie to help out the B Grade. He declined, no issue with that.

Matty Newman would've played half a dozen B Grade games in the first half of the year, whilst also playing 17s on the Sunday, before giving B Grade the flick and playing C's. Am happy to be corrected with facts, but Matt was never "turned away" - his choice to play C's.

Matt Laird, don't know the guy so highly unlikely he trained his guts out for 4 weeks in Charlie's time at GX. Josh Murphy was an u17 at the time, was not happy with the game time he was getting in the B's so went with Matt Newman to play C's. Again, happy to be corrected with fact.

Charlie showed interest in kids who wanted to train and do the right thing by the club, and pretty much all of them are still at GX. Not all clubs measure success on Div 10 premierships.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby The Ash Man » Fri May 30, 2008 10:03 am

Vits19 wrote:Bubbula, lets deal in facts here. Payney was asked numerous times earlier in the year by Charlie to help out the B Grade. He declined, no issue with that.

Matty Newman would've played half a dozen B Grade games in the first half of the year, whilst also playing 17s on the Sunday, before giving B Grade the flick and playing C's. Am happy to be corrected with facts, but Matt was never "turned away" - his choice to play C's.

Matt Laird, don't know the guy so highly unlikely he trained his guts out for 4 weeks in Charlie's time at GX. Josh Murphy was an u17 at the time, was not happy with the game time he was getting in the B's so went with Matt Newman to play C's. Again, happy to be corrected with fact.

Charlie showed interest in kids who wanted to train and do the right thing by the club, and pretty much all of them are still at GX. Not all clubs measure success on Div 10 premierships.


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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby zedman » Fri May 30, 2008 11:18 am

div 10 LMAO..who gives a rats..big fish small pond syndrome..
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Bubbula » Fri May 30, 2008 11:38 am

This whole forum was about Ovies destructing.. And all these no-gooders come on here and dish garbage on Chris.. Can you all not find something better to do with your time.. Ovingham as a club are quite fine.. And what destruction has he caused.. Him and all his so called gypsies had every good reason to leave wingfield! The place is a hole. Steve brown played there all his life.. Is he a gypsie for leaving.. what about the others that left.. are they all gypsies and no-gooders..
Newy bought a premiership to Gepps Cross and Wingfield.. I dont see how it was him that bought the destruction..
Even players still playing at wingfield said GF Day last year they were leaving..
A winner never quits and a quitter never wins.. So who came up with the saying quit while your ahead.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Sponge Bob » Fri May 30, 2008 11:53 am

Vits19 wrote:Bubbula, lets deal in facts here. Payney was asked numerous times earlier in the year by Charlie to help out the B Grade. He declined, no issue with that.

Matty Newman would've played half a dozen B Grade games in the first half of the year, whilst also playing 17s on the Sunday, before giving B Grade the flick and playing C's. Am happy to be corrected with facts, but Matt was never "turned away" - his choice to play C's.

Matt Laird, don't know the guy so highly unlikely he trained his guts out for 4 weeks in Charlie's time at GX. Josh Murphy was an u17 at the time, was not happy with the game time he was getting in the B's so went with Matt Newman to play C's. Again, happy to be corrected with fact.

Charlie showed interest in kids who wanted to train and do the right thing by the club, and pretty much all of them are still at GX. Not all clubs measure success on Div 10 premierships.



On the job as always eh Vits! Well said, problem is, it's a Div 10 mentality that's been inherited, refer earlier posts by Rupert :(
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Bubbula » Fri May 30, 2008 12:05 pm

every player from any club has a right to stay or clear to another club prior to the given deadline every year regardless. wether they have played 2 games or 200 games. It does not matter. There decision is based on what they want.

Every player has a right to being under a good coach which more often then not leads them to playing better football. Which many players have done in following Chris. No-body wanted to stay at wingfield. and the ones that did said last year on GF night they weren't staying becuase hole chip shot incident.

On the self-desructing theory at Ovingham. 53 registered players with more players signing up each week. 18 better then average players not selected every week. When you have a decent arguement get back to me... So I can also shoot it down in a blaze of fire.

Things are looking up to me.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Sponge Bob » Fri May 30, 2008 12:20 pm

Bubbula wrote:every player from any club has a right to stay or clear to another club prior to the given deadline every year regardless. wether they have played 2 games or 200 games. It does not matter. There decision is based on what they want.

Every player has a right to being under a good coach which more often then not leads them to playing better football. Which many players have done in following Chris. No-body wanted to stay at wingfield. and the ones that did said last year on GF night they weren't staying becuase hole chip shot incident.

On the self-desructing theory at Ovingham. 53 registered players with more players signing up each week. 18 better then average players not selected every week. When you have a decent arguement get back to me... So I can also shoot it down in a blaze of fire.

Things are looking up to me.



How many original Ovingham players 1/ are getting a game

2/ have left the club

Is that considered to be a fair question? If your numbers are correct, why didn't the club nominate another team, that to me would have been a sensible thing to do and why would you continue to sign players if they are not getting a game, the place is not big enough to swing a cat so what do they all do, hang around outside the loo's or something? :roll:
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby old moz » Fri May 30, 2008 12:30 pm

Bubbula wrote:Clowns, the funny thing is you probably dont knoiw any of us champ.. lol.. You look like a clown coming on here with a big mouth.. You gutless dog.

bubb you did a good job on previous [& other posts here] but on this one you attacked the messenger and not the message.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Bubbula » Fri May 30, 2008 12:53 pm

Captain Cordial wrote:
Bubbula wrote:every player from any club has a right to stay or clear to another club prior to the given deadline every year regardless. wether they have played 2 games or 200 games. It does not matter. There decision is based on what they want.

Every player has a right to being under a good coach which more often then not leads them to playing better football. Which many players have done in following Chris. No-body wanted to stay at wingfield. and the ones that did said last year on GF night they weren't staying becuase hole chip shot incident.

On the self-desructing theory at Ovingham. 53 registered players with more players signing up each week. 18 better then average players not selected every week. When you have a decent arguement get back to me... So I can also shoot it down in a blaze of fire.

Things are looking up to me.



How many original Ovingham players 1/ are getting a game

2/ have left the club

Is that considered to be a fair question? If your numbers are correct, why didn't the club nominate another team, that to me would have been a sensible thing to do and why would you continue to sign players if they are not getting a game, the place is not big enough to swing a cat so what do they all do, hang around outside the loo's or something? :roll:



Going by your theory any player going to a new club and doing a whole pre-season should take a back seat to numorous players from last year who may have or may not have made done pre-season at all. So Chriss Judd transfers to Carlton. Why is it that he got a game straight up after coming back from injury.. According to your theory it doesnt matter wether your a better player, you should take a back seat to someone who was there the year before. Open your eyes. Some Original players have left the club. In what way is that Chris Newmans fault. I have 3 mates(including the runner up best and fairest from last year) who WATCHED the first training this year and decided they didnt want to be trained hard so they left. These were blokes who bragged that they would walk into the side this year regardless of the talent that was reportedly coming accross from wingfield..

And can you please name me a club that doesnt welcome new talent and and numerous B&F and association medalists come play or return to there club. Is that what your club does or did.

The idea was to nominate 2 teams but that fell through when the training numbers started dropping off early. The players come to Ovingham to play football. They are told from the start they may struggle to get a game. They then make up there own mind. We had 2 blokes come out last night just for fitness.
A winner never quits and a quitter never wins.. So who came up with the saying quit while your ahead.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Bubbula » Fri May 30, 2008 12:55 pm

Captain Cordial wrote:
Vits19 wrote:Bubbula, lets deal in facts here. Payney was asked numerous times earlier in the year by Charlie to help out the B Grade. He declined, no issue with that.

Matty Newman would've played half a dozen B Grade games in the first half of the year, whilst also playing 17s on the Sunday, before giving B Grade the flick and playing C's. Am happy to be corrected with facts, but Matt was never "turned away" - his choice to play C's.

Matt Laird, don't know the guy so highly unlikely he trained his guts out for 4 weeks in Charlie's time at GX. Josh Murphy was an u17 at the time, was not happy with the game time he was getting in the B's so went with Matt Newman to play C's. Again, happy to be corrected with fact.

Charlie showed interest in kids who wanted to train and do the right thing by the club, and pretty much all of them are still at GX. Not all clubs measure success on Div 10 premierships.



On the job as always eh Vits! Well said, problem is, it's a Div 10 mentality that's been inherited, refer earlier posts by Rupert :(


Captain Cordial, do you just jump on anybody's meatloaf.
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby old moz » Fri May 30, 2008 1:16 pm

bubb; re C. Payne . from what i've heard & know about him i would think at that stage of his playing life he [ including a good turn at a top A1 club] would have been very happy in a team that enabled him to kick a bag each week. [with not a lot of hard training]. a SAAFL goalkicking record. SAAFL div medal & a premiership why would he want to play Bs, leave that to the younger guys on the way up. just my opinion on that particular player at that time of his playing time
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Bubbula » Fri May 30, 2008 1:18 pm

old moz wrote:bubb; re C. Payne . from what i've heard & know about him i would think at that stage of his playing life he [ including a good turn at a top A1 club] would have been very happy in a team that enabled him to kick a bag each week. [with not a lot of hard training]. a SAAFL goalkicking record. SAAFL div medal & a premiership why would he want to play Bs, leave that to the younger guys on the way up. just my opinion on that particular player at that time of his playing time


Yeh, Im not disputing that mate. He wanted to play football with his mates and Josh mail.. Thats what C Grades about..
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Re: Ovies to self destruct

Postby Sponge Bob » Fri May 30, 2008 1:26 pm

Bubbula wrote:
Captain Cordial wrote:
Vits19 wrote:Bubbula, lets deal in facts here. Payney was asked numerous times earlier in the year by Charlie to help out the B Grade. He declined, no issue with that.

Matty Newman would've played half a dozen B Grade games in the first half of the year, whilst also playing 17s on the Sunday, before giving B Grade the flick and playing C's. Am happy to be corrected with facts, but Matt was never "turned away" - his choice to play C's.

Matt Laird, don't know the guy so highly unlikely he trained his guts out for 4 weeks in Charlie's time at GX. Josh Murphy was an u17 at the time, was not happy with the game time he was getting in the B's so went with Matt Newman to play C's. Again, happy to be corrected with fact.

Charlie showed interest in kids who wanted to train and do the right thing by the club, and pretty much all of them are still at GX. Not all clubs measure success on Div 10 premierships.



On the job as always eh Vits! Well said, problem is, it's a Div 10 mentality that's been inherited, refer earlier posts by Rupert :(


Captain Cordial, do you just jump on anybody's meatloaf.


Thanks for that indepth reply, I am now much wiser. How in the hell did meatloaf get a mention? Are you talking the edible (that means you can eat it) meatloaf or the big fella that wears a dress that reckons he can sing variety.
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