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Inflation 7.5 %, interest rates 4.25 %, imports CAD 2.2 NZ Billion

Still think NZ Labor would win but greater reliance on coalition partners.

In western democracies major parties have struggled to get 33% of the primary vote, which makes winning majorities extremely difficult.
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He cheats at the highest level’: Trump claims golf tournament win despite not playing half of it

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I'll over throw Putin.

Or maybe I won't.
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Watched a documentary on Alexei Navalny yesterday, produced by him and his supporters, from the time he was poisoned to his later return to Russia and arrest at the airport.

It cannot be underestimated what this one brave man did, and continues to do after his death, to shine a light on the brutality of Putin and his enablers.

He knew what his fate would be, but ploughed ahead regardless.

We can only hope that Putin is overthrown and Russian society freed of all this, but their history says otherwise.
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dedja wrote:Watched a documentary on Alexei Navalny yesterday, produced by him and his supporters, from the time he was poisoned to his later return to Russia and arrest at the airport.

It cannot be underestimated what this one brave man did, and continues to do after his death, to shine a light on the brutality of Putin and his enablers.

He knew what his fate would be, but ploughed ahead regardless.

We can only hope that Putin is overthrown and Russian society freed of all this, but their history says otherwise.
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Quiz.

1. Identify the Nazi Propaganda Minister, Joseph Goebbels and the Trump propagandist, Stephen Miller from the photos below.

2. Identify the differences in their policies.

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UK General Election tomorrow, looks like the Tories will be swamped by the Labour Party.

Good to see the Poms know how to spell Labour.
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Not even Hindmarsh Pest control would be able to get all the bugs out of this building.....

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am Bays wrote:Not even Hindmarsh Pest control would be able to get all the bugs out of this building.....

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-04/ ... /104053342
Construction or surveilance?

Hindmarsh Pest Control are very good - if they cant fix it - nobody can
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Labour win in a massive landslide, the Tories on track to have the lowest no. of seats in their history.
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dedja wrote:Labour win in a massive landslide, the Tories on track to have the lowest no. of seats in their history.
Someone on the Tory side will try and claim a moral victory, it's the English way!
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Rees-Mogg to lose his seat after 14 years and Farrage and his right wing nutters with Holly Valance win more seats than first thought.
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Reform Party forecast to win maybe 1-1.5% of the 650 seats, more of a minor irritant than anything else.

Looks so bad for the Tories that they’ll have to wait until they see who has kept their seats before thinking about electing a new leader.

Love the way they announce the winner of a seat by lining up the candidates and reading out their votes and announcing the elected candidate.
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dedja wrote:Reform Party forecast to win maybe 1-1.5% of the 650 seats, more of a minor irritant than anything else.

Looks so bad for the Tories that they’ll have to wait until they see who has kept their seats before thinking about electing a new leader.

Love the way they announce the winner of a seat by lining up the candidates and reading out their votes and announcing the elected candidate.
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Yep, and everyone seems to embrace it.

Never thought I’d ever be saying this about the Poms, but we can learn from them on the way they go about it, including counting through the night.

We still have an Electoral Commission that effectively works 9-5. :roll:

Now projecting that the Reform Party will only win 4 seats, that's 0.6% of total seats. :D
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dedja wrote:Never thought I’d ever be saying this about the Poms, but we can learn from them on the way they go about it, including counting through the night.

We still have an Electoral Commission that effectively works 9-5. :roll:
No thanks.

Totally different electoral systems and geography make for an inapt comparison.

But that aside, our system enables us to reduce errors, allow greater scrutiny particularly of declaration votes, enable postal votes to be returned (maximising turnout), have a far more rigorous and secure chain of custody over ballot papers, report the results in far greater detail, and generally ensure the integrity of the electoral process.

I'm not sure if you've been involved in counting votes before, but the AEC do an incredible job.
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dedja wrote:Never thought I’d ever be saying this about the Poms, but we can learn from them on the way they go about it, including counting through the night.

We still have an Electoral Commission that effectively works 9-5. :roll:
No thanks.

Totally different electoral systems and geography make for an inapt comparison.

But that aside, our system enables us to reduce errors, allow greater scrutiny particularly of declaration votes, enable postal votes to be returned (maximising turnout), have a far more rigorous and secure chain of custody over ballot papers, report the results in far greater detail, and generally ensure the integrity of the electoral process.

I'm not sure if you've been involved in counting votes before, but the AEC do an incredible job.
Agreed much prefer our system than there's.

With a voter turnout of less than 55% and first past the post electoral people are getting elected to parliament with less than 20% of the constituency actually voting for them.

Interestingly, Labour has won with the same vote over there as Labor here (33%) in 2022.
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Yep, we have preferential voting which massively complicates everything and takes longer to process, but my point was the process of counting votes throughout the night, not packing up at midnight on Sat, then starting again on Monday.

Everyone over there just kept going throughout the night until results were declared.

Polls closed at 10pm, and as of now, namely 8:30am, 644 constituencies out of 650 have been declared.

There are many opportunities for the AEC to improve, noting that I’m sure the people who are involved do the best they can with the hand they’re dealt with.
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