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Re: The Ashes 25/26

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valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
The Stokes-Headingley PTSD will remain until he retires from test cricket.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

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The Dark Knight wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
The Stokes-Headingley PTSD will remain until he retires from test cricket.
I’ve still got PTSD from Botham at Headingly in 1981…

But yeah hats off to Stokes he has put it his hand up for his team again in this sweater and with a **** groin
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Lasted until half hour before tea today, up in the Riverbank stand but it was actually not overly hot until after lunch, back for a full day tomorrow where it will be much more enjoyable.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

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valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
I have to completely disagree.
When Stokes bats conservatively for extended periods, it directly contradicts the Bazball philosophy and, more importantly, undermines the authority of the coach who introduced it.

Bazball demands visible buy-in from senior leaders. Stokes is not just another player; he is the embodiment of the system. When Stokes blocks for long stretches, prioritises survival over pressure, or retreats into risk-avoidance, it sends a mixed message to the dressing room: the theory applies until the pressure is personal. That inconsistency erodes trust in the framework McCullum has built.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
I have to completely disagree.
When Stokes bats conservatively for extended periods, it directly contradicts the Bazball philosophy and, more importantly, undermines the authority of the coach who introduced it.

Bazball demands visible buy-in from senior leaders. Stokes is not just another player; he is the embodiment of the system. When Stokes blocks for long stretches, prioritises survival over pressure, or retreats into risk-avoidance, it sends a mixed message to the dressing room: the theory applies until the pressure is personal. That inconsistency erodes trust in the framework McCullum has built.
You realise Bazball is a philosophy that was made up by the media?
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

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gadj1976 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
I have to completely disagree.
When Stokes bats conservatively for extended periods, it directly contradicts the Bazball philosophy and, more importantly, undermines the authority of the coach who introduced it.

Bazball demands visible buy-in from senior leaders. Stokes is not just another player; he is the embodiment of the system. When Stokes blocks for long stretches, prioritises survival over pressure, or retreats into risk-avoidance, it sends a mixed message to the dressing room: the theory applies until the pressure is personal. That inconsistency erodes trust in the framework McCullum has built.
You realise Bazball is a philosophy that was made up by the media?
Yes, the term Bazball was coined by media as a way of giving the attacking style a title
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
I have to completely disagree.
When Stokes bats conservatively for extended periods, it directly contradicts the Bazball philosophy and, more importantly, undermines the authority of the coach who introduced it.

Bazball demands visible buy-in from senior leaders. Stokes is not just another player; he is the embodiment of the system. When Stokes blocks for long stretches, prioritises survival over pressure, or retreats into risk-avoidance, it sends a mixed message to the dressing room: the theory applies until the pressure is personal. That inconsistency erodes trust in the framework McCullum has built.
You realise Bazball is a philosophy that was made up by the media?
Yes, the term Bazball was coined by media as a way of giving the attacking style a title
Bazball is completely media driven. However there is some truth to Stokes completely contradicting the ethos he wanted. In his first net session as captain he went in there and basically tried to hit everything for 6 to show them how he wanted to play. I think they have told Pope and co to play in attacking manner which has actually hindered there progress. Stokes has all the slowest innings in the so called bazball era which is kind of contradictory to his message to the others.
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
I have to completely disagree.
When Stokes bats conservatively for extended periods, it directly contradicts the Bazball philosophy and, more importantly, undermines the authority of the coach who introduced it.

Bazball demands visible buy-in from senior leaders. Stokes is not just another player; he is the embodiment of the system. When Stokes blocks for long stretches, prioritises survival over pressure, or retreats into risk-avoidance, it sends a mixed message to the dressing room: the theory applies until the pressure is personal. That inconsistency erodes trust in the framework McCullum has built.
You realise Bazball is a philosophy that was made up by the media?
Yes, the term Bazball was coined by media as a way of giving the attacking style a title
Pop quiz guys and without looking it up, who came up with the name Bazball?
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The Dark Knight wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote: I have to completely disagree.
When Stokes bats conservatively for extended periods, it directly contradicts the Bazball philosophy and, more importantly, undermines the authority of the coach who introduced it.

Bazball demands visible buy-in from senior leaders. Stokes is not just another player; he is the embodiment of the system. When Stokes blocks for long stretches, prioritises survival over pressure, or retreats into risk-avoidance, it sends a mixed message to the dressing room: the theory applies until the pressure is personal. That inconsistency erodes trust in the framework McCullum has built.
You realise Bazball is a philosophy that was made up by the media?
Yes, the term Bazball was coined by media as a way of giving the attacking style a title
Pop quiz guys and without looking it up, who came up with the name Bazball?
One of the pommy cricinfo blokes and no I don’t know his name
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No idea.
Only name i can think of is Agnew but wouldnt be him
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
I have to completely disagree.
When Stokes bats conservatively for extended periods, it directly contradicts the Bazball philosophy and, more importantly, undermines the authority of the coach who introduced it.

Bazball demands visible buy-in from senior leaders. Stokes is not just another player; he is the embodiment of the system. When Stokes blocks for long stretches, prioritises survival over pressure, or retreats into risk-avoidance, it sends a mixed message to the dressing room: the theory applies until the pressure is personal. That inconsistency erodes trust in the framework McCullum has built.
What you're saying is true, MT, but weathering a tough spell of bowling or tough conditions shouldn't undermine any philosophy. If Stokes unleashes this morning and puts England right back in the contest and puts the Australian attack under pressure, that is the philosophy in action, situationally.
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mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Hats off to Stokes - massive ticker when his mates were falling like flies. Archer batted nicely, too.

This game is not over whilst Stokes is at the crease. If he smacks some runs tomorrow and England go in 80 runs down, historically, they chase well in the 4th dig.
I have to completely disagree.
When Stokes bats conservatively for extended periods, it directly contradicts the Bazball philosophy and, more importantly, undermines the authority of the coach who introduced it.

Bazball demands visible buy-in from senior leaders. Stokes is not just another player; he is the embodiment of the system. When Stokes blocks for long stretches, prioritises survival over pressure, or retreats into risk-avoidance, it sends a mixed message to the dressing room: the theory applies until the pressure is personal. That inconsistency erodes trust in the framework McCullum has built.
Bazball is a media led concept. Stokes can't win here, he values his wicket and gets slammed he goes the slap and losses his wicket he's a poor leader.

Dammed if he does, dammed if he doesn't.
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Bazball is a media led concept. Stokes can't win here, he values his wicket and gets slammed he goes the slap and losses his wicket he's a poor leader.

Dammed if he does, dammed if he doesn't.[/quote]

Absolute leader BUT not a great bat avg 35 or bowler 33 avg , would he make our side?
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shoe boy wrote:Bazball is a media led concept. Stokes can't win here, he values his wicket and gets slammed he goes the slap and losses his wicket he's a poor leader.

Dammed if he does, dammed if he doesn't.
Absolute leader BUT not a great bat avg 35 or bowler 33 avg , would he make our side?[/quote]

Yep he’s better than Green at this stage
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shoe boy wrote:
Absolute leader BUT not a great bat avg 35 or bowler 33 avg , would he make our side?
Difficult for him to be an eagle when he's surrounded by turkeys
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gadj1976 wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
Absolute leader BUT not a great bat avg 35 or bowler 33 avg , would he make our side?
Difficult for him to be an eagle when he's surrounded by turkeys
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No time for root? :-s
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