Things that give you the sh1ts

[Brodlach]

So the big winners are :

Coles, Woolworths, Harvey Norman, Hungry Jacks, McDonalds, small business owners who open on a Sunday as that's the best day for trading in smashed avo on rye with a soy latte.

The big losers :

Every **** who works on Sundays for next to **** all.

I can see why the federal Liberal government would be all for this.

I don't get this, why are they being paid **** all? They will be paid exactly what the bloke working Tuesdays will get. Is he gettin paid **** all?

Unfortunately the bloke working Tuesday is getting paid SFA.
That's why he chooses to work weekends to pickup the penalty rates.
Retail workers are generally the lowest paid already so reducing penalty rates cuts their income again.

Generally retail is at least $20 an hour for over 21 hardly SFA for someone who has had no formal training

[Brodlach]

So the big winners are :

Coles, Woolworths, Harvey Norman, Hungry Jacks, McDonalds, small business owners who open on a Sunday as that's the best day for trading in smashed avo on rye with a soy latte.

The big losers :

Every **** who works on Sundays for next to **** all.

I can see why the federal Liberal government would be all for this.

I don't get this, why are they being paid **** all? They will be paid exactly what the bloke working Tuesdays will get. Is he gettin paid **** all?

Unfortunately the bloke working Tuesday is getting paid SFA.
That's why he chooses to work weekends to pickup the penalty rates.
Retail workers are generally the lowest paid already so reducing penalty rates cuts their income again.

Some obviously don't get this...

And some people expect to be given everything without working for it


That's why so many people are on benefits

[amber_fluid]

$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

[Brodlach]

$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame


Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts

[Booney]

$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame

Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts

This will be my last post directed at you on the subject as it's clear to me you don't have enough of an understanding on the matter to have any reasonable debate about it.

[amber_fluid]

$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame


Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts

I understand what you are saying(to a degree) but people without education or qualifications don't have a choice sometimes.
Their only choice is to work a low income job with penalty rates or become unemployed.
I know what I'd rather them do.

[Q.]

That's why so many people are on benefits

Nope, that's what they want you to think. The level of people in Australia on welfare has fallen significantly over the past decade.

[mighty_tiger_79]

What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

[Spargo]

$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame


Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts

Good lord.

[Brodlach]

Hilarious!

Ok Booney, I have no idea about what you are talking about. Your opinion is the only correct one. You have obviously employed a lot of people.

I have been through many businesses in the last 28 years, I think I am very qualified to talk about this. I have plenty of experience with this and people's work ethic, personal growth and expectations.

[Booney]

$20 an hour for a 40 year old supporting a family is bugger all.
I'm glad I don't work in retail but feel for people who do.

Again that is their choice.

You buy things off the internet from overseas,if you do you are partly to blame


Not to forget that family will also get probably $400 a fortnight in government handouts

Good lord.

Yup.

[Brodlach]

What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance

[amber_fluid]

Hilarious!

Ok Booney, I have no idea about what you are talking about. Your opinion is the only correct one. You have obviously employed a lot of people.

I have been through many businesses in the last 28 years, I think I am very qualified to talk about this. I have plenty of experience with this and people's work ethic, personal growth and expectations.

It sounds like you have your business hat on and not your empathy hat!

I don't agree with paying double time on Sundays but some form of penalty rates still need to be in place to protect the employee.

[Brodlach]

That's why so many people are on benefits

Nope, that's what they want you to think. The level of people in Australia on welfare has fallen significantly over the past decade.

It's all in the way they produce the figures


You work one hour a week and you are taken off the unemployed rate.

[Booney]

What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance

(One last one)

You're right, they should just choose to earn $150k P.A instead.

[Q.]

That's why so many people are on benefits

Nope, that's what they want you to think. The level of people in Australia on welfare has fallen significantly over the past decade.

It's all in the way they produce the figures


You work one hour a week and you are taken off the unemployed rate.

Those are unemployment statistics.

Australia's welfare statistics can be seen in plain daylight, and it's easy to find interactive graphs on the web that separate figures for newstart, aged pension, DSP etc. and how our welfare to GDP ratio compares to other countries

[Brodlach]

What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance

(One last one)

You're right, they should just choose to earn $150k P.A instead.

Work hard, pick the right profession, take risks and they can.


Someone we know has no qualifications at all, worked a dead end job started a house cleaning business and now turnsover $150,000 a year because they worked hard and took a risk.

Sometimes you just have to have the gumption

[Q.]

The capitalist pyramid doesn't work like that. Not everyone who 'works hard' can be near the top.

[amber_fluid]

What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?

Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance

(One last one)

You're right, they should just choose to earn $150k P.A instead.

I choose to earn $150k a year.........unfortunately for me, my CEO chooses not to pay it!!

[amber_fluid]

The capitalist pyramid doesn't work like that. Not everyone who 'works hard' can be near the top.

Correct!
My staff work way harder than I do.