US

[king neptune]

Didn't take long on here for my tumbler to start overflowing, heh heh heh

[Jimmy_041]

Mind you, seeing some of her performances, maybe she was better with a limited campaign

In 2016 Trump mocked a disabled reporter and he's still there. Nothing she has done comes close.

How could it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJys7OV ... =60Minutes

[Trader]

From a strategy point of view, I've found the dems decisions to be very interesting.

Put policy aside, and just look at it as a game.

Donald wins the republican nomination.
Now, if you're playing the price is right, and the other guy bids 100, and you think its more likely to be 500, you don't guess 500, you guess 101, and that gives you everything from 101 through to 1000000.

Republican's put up who they put up.
All the dems needed to do what put up a middle of the road, vanilla candidate. They were always getting the votes from the far left.
But they didn't. They grabbed the most liberal person in their stable. They still strove to put the first female in the job. Their candidate claims to be multiple minorities when it comes to race.
Nothing necessarily wrong with any of those things, but from a strategy perspective, you are giving up the middle for what? It isn't securing the left, you had that already.

Dedja says America got what they deserved, but you can equally apply that to the democrats.

(Noting the result isn't set yet, and she might (unlikely, but might) jag a miracle from here, but the fact still remains, from a strategy point of view, they played it poorly imo).

[dedja]

Pennsylvania is gone, it's al over.

[Jimmy_041]

The Republicans have just flipped the Senate, and have more than an even chance of holding the House, so a clean sweep is definitely on.

Well done America.

And for the final kick in the balls, Trump will most likely win the popular vote.

What the faaark just happened?

The people in the political bubble don't understand what is going on in the real world

There is no reason in the world Dutton and the Coalition should win the next election but they may just do it for the same reason.
Well - Labor losing it as distinct from the Coalition winning it

[stan]

Pennsylvania is gone, it's al over.

Yep. Senate with the GOP as well.
If they take the house as well then buckle up, some will times are coming.

[am Bays]

The Republicans have just flipped the Senate, and have more than an even chance of holding the House, so a clean sweep is definitely on.

Well done America.

And for the final kick in the balls, Trump will most likely win the popular vote.

What the faaark just happened?

The people in the political bubble don't understand what is going on in the real world

There is no reason in the world Dutton and the Coalition should win the next election but they may just do it for the same reason.
Well - Labor losing it as distinct from the Coalition winning it

He's got his election strategy handed to him

[stan]

The Republicans have just flipped the Senate, and have more than an even chance of holding the House, so a clean sweep is definitely on.

Well done America.

And for the final kick in the balls, Trump will most likely win the popular vote.

What the faaark just happened?

The people in the political bubble don't understand what is going on in the real world

There is no reason in the world Dutton and the Coalition should win the next election but they may just do it for the same reason.
Well - Labor losing it as distinct from the Coalition winning it

Well no, although they'll look at the same play book it isn't quite the same game. Where as the US is very split and along party lines, flipping key states is the key, Dutton needs to target the individual seats to flip and it's not a line down the middle, there are so many other factors like Greens and teals that muddy the waters.

Also with all of that as well, you never know really until the vote is in.

[dedja]

From a strategy point of view, I've found the dems decisions to be very interesting.

Put policy aside, and just look at it as a game.

Donald wins the republican nomination.
Now, if you're playing the price is right, and the other guy bids 100, and you think its more likely to be 500, you don't guess 500, you guess 101, and that gives you everything from 101 through to 1000000.

Republican's put up who they put up.
All the dems needed to do what put up a middle of the road, vanilla candidate. They were always getting the votes from the far left.
But they didn't. They grabbed the most liberal person in their stable. They still strove to put the first female in the job. Their candidate claims to be multiple minorities when it comes to race.
Nothing necessarily wrong with any of those things, but from a strategy perspective, you are giving up the middle for what? It isn't securing the left, you had that already.

Dedja says America got what they deserved, but you can equally apply that to the democrats.

(Noting the result isn't set yet, and she might (unlikely, but might) jag a miracle from here, but the fact still remains, from a strategy point of view, they played it poorly imo).

I don't buy that.

The bloke they're about to elect has:

- been convicted of sexual assault, and 27 other woman have claimed the same
- been impeached twice as President
- been found guilty of 34 counts of fraud
- been charged with inciting a riot to impede the lawful declaration of a Presidential election that he lost
- been charged with trying to subvert the will of the people in number States in the last Presidential election
- overseen 6 company bankruptcies
- been overtly racist for all of his existence


plus many, many more ...

That's the reason this is completely insane.

[Jimmy_041]

The Republicans have just flipped the Senate, and have more than an even chance of holding the House, so a clean sweep is definitely on.

Well done America.

And for the final kick in the balls, Trump will most likely win the popular vote.

What the faaark just happened?

The people in the political bubble don't understand what is going on in the real world

There is no reason in the world Dutton and the Coalition should win the next election but they may just do it for the same reason.
Well - Labor losing it as distinct from the Coalition winning it

He's got his election strategy handed to him

In 2021, Labor never thought they could win the 2022 SA election (Straight from the
inner sanctum)
Marshall opened the State up for the cricket and bang! - misjudged the people
Marshall should have taken back the control of the state from the Emergency Management Act 2004.
People wanted him to govern. Again - misjudged the people

How Labor were able to use ramping as the main attack is just mindblowing to anyone with any sort of memory of who caused it all

You only need 5% to flip and whammo

[dedja]

wrong thread peoples

[am Bays]

The bloke they're about to elect has:

- been convicted of sexual assault, and 27 other woman have claimed the same

And taken down the two women who tried to win the US presidency.

there is a bevy of women's studies departments across the world's universities waking up to this news right now.

[Jimmy_041]

The Republicans have just flipped the Senate, and have more than an even chance of holding the House, so a clean sweep is definitely on.

Well done America.

And for the final kick in the balls, Trump will most likely win the popular vote.

What the faaark just happened?

The people in the political bubble don't understand what is going on in the real world

There is no reason in the world Dutton and the Coalition should win the next election but they may just do it for the same reason.
Well - Labor losing it as distinct from the Coalition winning it

Well no, although they'll look at the same play book it isn't quite the same game. Where as the US is very split and along party lines, flipping key states is the key, Dutton needs to target the individual seats to flip and it's not a line down the middle, there are so many other factors like Greens and teals that muddy the waters.

Also with all of that as well, you never know really until the vote is in.

Yes, but if you believe Kos Samaras, Labor are in trouble in key seats

[Trader]

From a strategy point of view, I've found the dems decisions to be very interesting.

Put policy aside, and just look at it as a game.

Donald wins the republican nomination.
Now, if you're playing the price is right, and the other guy bids 100, and you think its more likely to be 500, you don't guess 500, you guess 101, and that gives you everything from 101 through to 1000000.

Republican's put up who they put up.
All the dems needed to do what put up a middle of the road, vanilla candidate. They were always getting the votes from the far left.
But they didn't. They grabbed the most liberal person in their stable. They still strove to put the first female in the job. Their candidate claims to be multiple minorities when it comes to race.
Nothing necessarily wrong with any of those things, but from a strategy perspective, you are giving up the middle for what? It isn't securing the left, you had that already.

Dedja says America got what they deserved, but you can equally apply that to the democrats.

(Noting the result isn't set yet, and she might (unlikely, but might) jag a miracle from here, but the fact still remains, from a strategy point of view, they played it poorly imo).

I don't buy that.

The bloke they're about to elect has:

- been convicted of sexual assault, and 27 other woman have claimed the same
- been impeached twice as President
- been found guilty of 34 counts of fraud
- been charged with inciting a riot to impede the lawful declaration of a Presidential election that he lost
- been charged with trying to subvert the will of the people in number States in the last Presidential election
- overseen 6 company bankruptcies
- been overtly racist for all of his existence


plus many, many more ...

That's the reason this is completely insane.

All those things about Donny just show how bad the Dem's played it.
He was a toxic candidate, all they had to do was play it safe.
But they didn't.
They went extreme on their end and forced the people in the middle to choose.

Had they put up someone who was reasonably normal, they would have gotten a lot more votes from the middle.

[stan]

Trunk gets Pennsylvania. His is now 3 votes away from winning.

[dedja]

Trunk gets Pennsylvania. His is now 3 votes away from winning.

He's going to win all the swing states.

[mighty_tiger_79]

From a strategy point of view, I've found the dems decisions to be very interesting.

Put policy aside, and just look at it as a game.

Donald wins the republican nomination.
Now, if you're playing the price is right, and the other guy bids 100, and you think its more likely to be 500, you don't guess 500, you guess 101, and that gives you everything from 101 through to 1000000.

Republican's put up who they put up.
All the dems needed to do what put up a middle of the road, vanilla candidate. They were always getting the votes from the far left.
But they didn't. They grabbed the most liberal person in their stable. They still strove to put the first female in the job. Their candidate claims to be multiple minorities when it comes to race.
Nothing necessarily wrong with any of those things, but from a strategy perspective, you are giving up the middle for what? It isn't securing the left, you had that already.

Dedja says America got what they deserved, but you can equally apply that to the democrats.

(Noting the result isn't set yet, and she might (unlikely, but might) jag a miracle from here, but the fact still remains, from a strategy point of view, they played it poorly imo).

I don't buy that.

The bloke they're about to elect has:

- been convicted of sexual assault, and 27 other woman have claimed the same
- been impeached twice as President
- been found guilty of 34 counts of fraud
- been charged with inciting a riot to impede the lawful declaration of a Presidential election that he lost
- been charged with trying to subvert the will of the people in number States in the last Presidential election
- overseen 6 company bankruptcies
- been overtly racist for all of his existence


plus many, many more ...

That's the reason this is completely insane.

All those things about Donny just show how bad the Dem's played it.
He was a toxic candidate, all they had to do was play it safe.
But they didn't.
They went extreme on their end and forced the people in the middle to choose.

Had they put up someone who was reasonably normal, they would have gotten a lot more votes from the middle.

That's a pretty good explanation of it all

[dedja]

From a strategy point of view, I've found the dems decisions to be very interesting.

Put policy aside, and just look at it as a game.

Donald wins the republican nomination.
Now, if you're playing the price is right, and the other guy bids 100, and you think its more likely to be 500, you don't guess 500, you guess 101, and that gives you everything from 101 through to 1000000.

Republican's put up who they put up.
All the dems needed to do what put up a middle of the road, vanilla candidate. They were always getting the votes from the far left.
But they didn't. They grabbed the most liberal person in their stable. They still strove to put the first female in the job. Their candidate claims to be multiple minorities when it comes to race.
Nothing necessarily wrong with any of those things, but from a strategy perspective, you are giving up the middle for what? It isn't securing the left, you had that already.

Dedja says America got what they deserved, but you can equally apply that to the democrats.

(Noting the result isn't set yet, and she might (unlikely, but might) jag a miracle from here, but the fact still remains, from a strategy point of view, they played it poorly imo).

I don't buy that.

The bloke they're about to elect has:

- been convicted of sexual assault, and 27 other woman have claimed the same
- been impeached twice as President
- been found guilty of 34 counts of fraud
- been charged with inciting a riot to impede the lawful declaration of a Presidential election that he lost
- been charged with trying to subvert the will of the people in number States in the last Presidential election
- overseen 6 company bankruptcies
- been overtly racist for all of his existence


plus many, many more ...

That's the reason this is completely insane.

All those things about Donny just show how bad the Dem's played it.
He was a toxic candidate, all they had to do was play it safe.
But they didn't.
They went extreme on their end and forced the people in the middle to choose.

Had they put up someone who was reasonably normal, they would have gotten a lot more votes from the middle.

Sorry, that's ridiculous, she's not extreme, he is. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

All it does it say to the world that the USA is a racist, nationalist country with no morals. They need to own this as he has won a free and fair election.

[stan]

US news outlets have called it.

Trump wins.

[Jim05]

Has K Rudd called in the removalists yet?