Collingwood 2014

[PatowalongaPirate]

From the AFL Website :

COLLINGWOOD players Lachlan Keeffe and Josh Thomas have been handed infraction notices by the AFL after tests revealed they had taken the drug clenbuterol.

Clenbuterol is not a specified substance on the AFL Anti-Doping prohibited list and as such, has required the players to be provisionally suspended. It is, however, a WADA-prohibited substance.

The announcement from the AFL confirms the players' b-samples had come back positive.

[Jim05]

Intetestingly Keeffe is trying out for the NFL and they aren't a signatory of WADA so he wouldnt have to serve any penalty

[stan]

Intetestingly Keeffe is trying out for the NFL and they aren't a signatory of WADA so he wouldnt have to serve any penalty

Correct he could actually go and do that if selected of course for the duration of his suspension.

[Dogwatcher]

Intetestingly Keeffe is trying out for the NFL and they aren't a signatory of WADA so he wouldnt have to serve any penalty

Bizarre. And the AFL is getting kicked about its drug policy...

[Jim05]

Intetestingly Keeffe is trying out for the NFL and they aren't a signatory of WADA so he wouldnt have to serve any penalty

Bizarre. And the AFL is getting kicked about its drug policy...

Most US sports wont sign up to WADA. Plenty of NBA and NHL players have openly admitted to steroid use.
Most major soccer leagues around the world refuse to sign up either

[Q.]

Didn't see that game (thankfully), but reports suggest that Shaz had a pretty good debut. Hopefully, we can re-sign him soon.

Jonathon Marsh reportedly had a great game in the VFL. It be great to get some senior games into him.

Play the kids now, season is done.

[Dogwatcher]

We pretty much did play the kids on the weekend.
Seriously, why can we not kick set shots consistently? It kills us each and every week.
Our defence got killed on the weekend, but I believe that was more to do with pressure down the field and in the press, on the way out, than due to any major deficiencies.
And...hopefully the doubters saw on the weekend why Cloke is so important to us. He was very sorely missed on the weekend - pressure acts, ball to ground, physical presence in packs on the FF line.
Loved some of Moore's work though, he has very good hands. A bigger frame and we'll see him do some remarkable stuff, I reckon.

Fasolo - trade bait? Get something for him while we can.

[Q.]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

[stan]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

If you want Trelor it will need to be good. You guys arent the only guys interested.

[Q.]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

If you want Trelor it will need to be good. You guys arent the only guys interested.

My theory is we are tanking to get a first rounder draft pick for the trade

[stan]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

If you want Trelor it will need to be good. You guys arent the only guys interested.

My theory is we are tanking to get a first rounder draft pick for the trade [emoji38]

Lol, seems that way.

[Jim05]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

I know a guy that can help Moore, real cutting edge stuff, what could go wrong

[Dogwatcher]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

Blair's future has to be in question, along with Kennedy too, I'd think.
Neither of those two are going to get a trade for Treloar over the line.
Seedsman?

[Spargo]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

Blair's future has to be in question, along with Kennedy too, I'd think.
Neither of those two are going to get a trade for Treloar over the line.
Seedsman?

Has Kennedy been given a decent chance?

[Q.]

Has Kennedy been given a decent chance?

Somewhat. Has been hampered by injuries in the last 24 months. Had issues with his fitness, which is why he's been sub often. Wasn't great in his full game against the Dogs. Would like to see him get another couple of full games to show us what he might be capable of.

[Q.]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

Blair's future has to be in question, along with Kennedy too, I'd think.
Neither of those two are going to get a trade for Treloar over the line.
Seedsman?

I'd flog off Seedsman. Has been woeful since Anzac Day.

[Booney]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

Blair's future has to be in question, along with Kennedy too, I'd think.
Neither of those two are going to get a trade for Treloar over the line.
Seedsman?

I'd flog off Seedsman. Has been woeful since Anzac Day.

I'm thrilled your comment had more to it than that.

[Q.]

Moore is going to be a gun. Get him in the gym in the off-season.

I don't think Fas will be traded. But we are going to have to offer something to get Treloar.

Blair's future has to be in question, along with Kennedy too, I'd think.
Neither of those two are going to get a trade for Treloar over the line.
Seedsman?

I'd flog off Seedsman. Has been woeful since Anzac Day.

I'm thrilled your comment had more to it than that.

Me flogging him off is his punishment for being woeful.

[Q.]

Keefe and Thomas have accepted their two-year bans.

Looks like Collingwood may rookie-list them next year.

[Booney]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-10/k ... -year-bans

COLLINGWOOD players Lachie Keeffe and Josh Thomas have accepted two-year bans after testing positive to banned substance clenbuterol.

The Pies pair will be delisted and have been fined about $50,000 each – with part of their 2015 player payments to be withheld, as required by the AFL and the World Anti-Doping Authority.

Keeffe and Thomas, who have been provisionally suspended since their positive A-sample result in March, will not be eligible to return to AFL until the 2017 season.

The Magpies have committed to re-drafting the duo as rookies later this year, should they choose to nominate and are not selected by a rival club first.

Reading prepared statements at a press conference on Monday, Keeffe and Thomas said they believed the banned substance found its way into their systems after they took illicit drugs during a night out.

Keeffe and Thomas handed infraction notices

"While we are unable to be absolutely certain how this substance came to be in our system, we can only assume it occurred during a night out (in February) prior to testing in which we took illicit drugs," Thomas, 23, said.

"Although we can't be sure, we believe the substance we took was laced with clenbuterol."

The pair stressed they did not knowingly take the performance-enhancing drug.

Keeffe, 25, hoped his and Thomas' mistakes didn't become "a life sentence" and said they wanted to return to AFL ranks in 2017.

"The past few months have been really hard not to play football for the club that gave us that opportunity as teenagers," Keeffe said.

"We deeply regret our actions, we take full responsibility for our mistakes and we accept the consequences.

"We also hope others will learn from our mistakes.

"We also hope that an error of judgement does not become a life sentence.

"Having worked so hard to build AFL careers, we are now committed to starting again and we hope to regain everyone's faith and trust and return to the AFL in 2017."

Magpies football boss Neil Balme said the club wanted to offer Thomas and Keeffe the opportunity to come back to the club as rookies to keep the "light at the end of the tunnel".

Collingwood CEO Gary Pert conceded it would not be ideal to carry the pair on the rookie list, but the Pies' board made the decision in conjunction with the list management team.

He said the pair wanted to "redeem themselves" by making it back into the AFL.

Pert said he hoped the plight of the players acted as a warning to other athletes in Australia about the dangers of taking an illicit substance not knowing what it contains.

"We accept that Josh and Lachie did not intentionally take performance-enhancing drugs and did not knowingly consume clenbuterol," Pert said.

"We accept that this was a case of two young men who made a poor decision to consume illicit drugs – decisions they will regret for the rest of their lives.

"Their decisions will cost them two years of AFL football … it will ultimately cost them hundres of thousands of dollars and definitely damage their reputations.

"Our commitment to re-draft them says much about the regard that we have for them."

Keeffe and Thomas will now participate in targeted drug-testing programs.

Pert said the episode showed that the AFL's Illicit Drug Policy – voluntary agreed to by players – needed to be overhauled.

"I want to see a policy that we're all happy with," Pert said. “For the clubs, the players, the players’ association, the AFL – everyone’s happy with.

Right at the moment I think the players and the players' association are happy with it.

"We certainly aren't and I don't think it's getting the results."