Bombers4EVA wrote:I know and it sounds like there will always be the same conflict. Who's got the most coin to throw around. Ditts said that he believes that Amatuer clubs in Div 4 - 8 shouldnt pay players. What's your thoughts on that? Also a bloke from Salisbury jumped on the radio to give his thoughts and he said and I quote ( which i find it really hard to believe ). " No one from the Salisbury FC gets paid because they all love and enjoy the culture". What a load of rubbish. You cant tell me that a club in Div 3 doesnt pay players. Crap.
As a committee member and vice-captain of the club, I can tell you that no cash is handed to players unless they are in the best 5 that day. Don't get angry at us because we have a strong junior set-up and bring them through to senior footy. If you can find someone closer to the situation than me, feel free to let us know his/her view.
If you did any research before spouting out your crap, you'd note that we lost 3 of our top 5 in last years B&F to the Barossa comp this year. I'll give ya a hint, it's not because they all live there. This is also one of the reasosn why we have yo-yo'd between Div 3 & 4 fror 10 years, we are unable to compete financially with the top Div 3 clubs.
But don't get your frustration at being stuck in Div 6 get mixed-up with the facts...
Not frustrated at all mate. And Im not saying anything about the development of your club. I just find it hard to believe that a Div 3 club doesnt pay players. Considering that most clubs in Div 4 up all offer incentives to attract players to their club. Not trying to offend anyone on here just giving my opinion thats all.
This is supposed to be a thread about why we think clubs are in strife - NOT a forum for accusing other amateur clubs of paying millions or having a crack at non existent players for going to clubs for money.
Please stay on topic.
The old chestnut of who pays players is irrelevant here, it's been done before and quite frankly is boring.
This means you Bombers4eva
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Pag wrote:As a committee member and vice-captain of the club, I can tell you that no cash is handed to players unless they are in the best 5 that day.
That's how it should operate - incentive based only - in my opinion.. would help stop average footballers chasing an easy pay packet every week.. They'd actually have to perform!
The more important question in all of this is not who pays how much to who... but more importantly - how many clubs are actually trading insolvently at this point in time and therefore exposing all of their committee to personal financial liability?
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There is 20 out of the 21 A grade players getting paid at Mawson Lakes, the other one wouldnt come across from Ingle Farm as the club couldnt match there offer
Bombers4EVA wrote:Its almost pretty simple though. No paying players, more players staying loyal to their local club.
Out of curiosity, how many players would your club (Mawson Lakes) have picked up and retained if it hadn't been for the lure of a few $$?
Just to make it clear. I never said that Mawson Lakes didnt offer any incentives. Thats for the powers at be to know. I was just a player. And like I said, I know it happens. Back when I was playing full time. There werent too many playing that were getting paid. If so they are good at keeping secrets. Especially that I got along well with the players that wouldve been getting paid and they didnt slip it out at all. Alot of our players if not the majority played at / for St Pauls / Mawson Lakes because of the culture and the people involved at the club.
I know Mawson Lakes have recruited quite well over the past few years. Especially moving into Div 6. This whole topic was about clubs struggling. And considering $$$$ play a major part. All I was saying that the struggling clubs in the SAAFL wouldnt struggle as bad if players werent getting paid.
Footy Chick wrote:The more important question in all of this is not who pays how much to who... but more importantly - how many clubs are actually trading insolvently at this point in time and therefore exposing all of their committee to personal financial liability?
What a curious reading of the Associations Incorporation Act
Footy Chick wrote:The more important question in all of this is not who pays how much to who... but more importantly - how many clubs are actually trading insolvently at this point in time and therefore exposing all of their committee to personal financial liability?
What a curious reading of the Associations Incorporation Act
a valid point nonetheless - I didn't expect many people to even understand it.
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My apologies Footy Chick. When the topic says "Clubs in Strife" I thought mentioning the subject on Triple M yesterday arvo would be totally relevant as they were talking about the likes of Kilburn, Brahma Lodge and how they are struggling due to player movements ( because they are getting offered $$$ ) to play elsewhere. And all I was talking about was that the SAAFL would be a better place with a no payment to players terms. Thats all.
Footy Chick wrote:The more important question in all of this is not who pays how much to who... but more importantly - how many clubs are actually trading insolvently at this point in time and therefore exposing all of their committee to personal financial liability?
I wonder if all of these people on committees of clubs living dangerously are aware of their personal exposure to issues like this?
I know I am, as I'm on the management committee of a club in a delicate position but at least it is a different sport....
The_Informer wrote:There is 20 out of the 21 A grade players getting paid at Mawson Lakes, the other one wouldnt come across from Ingle Farm as the club couldnt match there offer
The committee works hard to raise $$, pay a gun good $$ to play, they help you win more games and have success, club pushes into higher divs, becomes more attractive to play/sponsor, the club makes a good return on their investment.
Its is annoying as shit though when rival clubs are gifted $$ or revenue streams without working for it.
Jetters wrote:What's wrong with paying players if sustainable?
The committee works hard to raise $$, pay a gun good $$ to play, they help you win more games and have success, club pushes into higher divs, becomes more attractive to play/sponsor, the club makes a good return on their investment.
Its is annoying as shit though when rival clubs are gifted $$ or revenue streams without working for it.
And clubs who do it irresponsibly in the end die.
I understand the point you are making. But would you agree / disagree that $$$ that are being offered to players in the SAAFL is ruining the sport? Not about loyalty, enjoying the game and playing with your mates anymore. But about how much $$$ you can get. I know I played footy to play with my mates and have fun doing so.
