(Miscellaneous debris)

[southee]

Garrett gets a slap on the wrist. A decent human being but way out of his depth. Time to reform the Oils methinks http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/garrett-stripped-of-responsibilities/story-e6frfku9-1225834853702

Be a win/win situation, get rid of a crap politician and bring back an excellent band!

Had respect for the band but now...dont beleive a word he preaches.

Biggest "sell out" there is!!!

[Wedgie]

Garrett gets a slap on the wrist. A decent human being but way out of his depth. Time to reform the Oils methinks http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/garrett-stripped-of-responsibilities/story-e6frfku9-1225834853702

Be a win/win situation, get rid of a crap politician and bring back an excellent band!

Had respect for the band but now...dont beleive a word he preaches.

Biggest "sell out" there is!!!

I never believed a word he preached but always liked their music!

[Jimmy_041]

So, like Tom Koutsantanis, he retains a ministry which means he retains the extra $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and company car

[redandblack]

Yes, I agree, just like a host of Howard ministers.

John Howard single-handedly trashed the concept of ministerial responsibility.

[Jimmy_041]

well - that makes it OK then

I am now comfortable with the entire situation

[fish]

I reckon Garrett should have a break from the Ministry, being the Minister responsible for the insulation program. Not all of the mess was his fault but the buck has to stop somewhere.

Tom should not have remained a Minister either.

[redandblack]

Good.

So am I, then.

[smac]

R&B, I never took you for the "he did it, so it's OK" crowd. Surely not?

Howard and his crowd were held accountable, so should anyone displaying the same arrogance.

[southee]

Lets not "Sugar Coat" this issue.....

If I hear Rudd say that catch phrase again I'm going scream!!!

[Jimmy_041]

Face it Southee, you have no thoughts for working families....,,,,,,

Rudd must have little post it notes all over his office with these catch phrases

[redandblack]

R&B, I never took you for the "he did it, so it's OK" crowd. Surely not?

Howard and his crowd were held accountable, so should anyone displaying the same arrogance.

You're right, smac, my apologies.

I just get a little bored and frustrated at comments better suited to a Liberal Party branch meeting than a political debate.

As it happens, I'm happy to debate the Westminster principal of ministerial responsibilty and why it has fallen into disuse anytime.

I totally agreed that Koutsantonis should have been sacked, but I also think he wasn't because a host of Howard ministers weren't. That's consistent and a legitimate point, regardless of whether Howard was booted out or not. Koutsantonis wasn't because the principal of ministerial responsibility had already been cast aside.

Back to the serious debating points of Rudd saying sugar coating or working families all the time.

Let's instead have a great big new tax............yawn.

[mick]

So, like Tom Koutsantanis, he retains a ministry which means he retains the extra $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and company car

What!!!! he doesn't ride a bicycle????!!!! He really has sold out Seriously I think the vast majority of people who enter public life do it for the right reasons one may not always agree with them, but I think there is a genuine desire to improve society. If we all agreed on the methodology then there would be no parties. Personally I would never swap places with PG and TK, for a car and $$$. It would mean maintaing a facade for much of the day, hardly ever gong to the footy or seeing your family irregularly, crawling and being nice to people who you don't really like too much, towing the party line sometimes on issues you find disagreeable. NO thanks

[redandblack]

Nice post, mick.

Well said.

[dedja]

All very true Mick, which makes it bewildering why Garrett would put hmself in such a compromising position by becoming a MP in a major party effectively mocking his 30 years of Power and the Passion.

[Wedgie]

Seriously I think the vast majority of people who enter public life do it for the right reasons one may not always agree with them, but I think there is a genuine desire to improve society.

I assume from your "conversation" with Mike Rann at Prospect last year you don't believe he is one of those Mick?

[mick]

Seriously I think the vast majority of people who enter public life do it for the right reasons one may not always agree with them, but I think there is a genuine desire to improve society.

I assume from your "conversation" with Mike Rann at Prospect last year you don't believe he is one of those Mick?

I can't stand the guy or more accurately his modus opperandi, but I would like think he is motivated by things other than power. Some of his policies have affected me and the people I work with negatively,

[Jimmy_041]

No other place to put this, so miscellaneous crap it is;

Went to dinner at the Riverfront at the weir last night with friends in from US and Hong Kong - 9/10
Walked the Northern Lights - 10/10. Absolutely fabulous
........then the big one: went to get a taxi home at about midnight.......concierge service, like the airport, put on by the Taxi Board - 10 minutes for a taxi

to all those who organised any part of the above. My friends were overwhelmed with it all

[Squawk]

No other place to put this, so miscellaneous crap it is;

Went to dinner at the Riverfront at the weir last night with friends in from US and Hong Kong - 9/10

Errrr, Jimmy......

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/mans-body-found-near-river-torrens-weir/story-e6frea6u-1225835198740

Man's body found near River Torrens weir
Amy Noonan From: AdelaideNow February 28, 2010 9:25AM

THE body of a man has been found at the River Torrens weir.
The Broadview man, 69, was found at the bottom of the weir about 7.20am

[Jimmy_041]

Yes - we were talking about it today.

As we were leaving the Riverfront at about 10pm, one of our group said let's cross the weir and walk on the south side. I said to my wife that I didn't think it was a good idea as it was dark but there were 8 of us. I was somewhat relieved to make it to King William St without incident. There were some very seedy characters along the way.......

[Jimmy_041]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/in-depth/health-by-stealth-federal-health-reform-on-the-way/story-e6frebcl-1225835816262

This is going to get interesting. The States do not want to lose control of the health funds even though they bitch about it

Interesting timing from Rudd - to save his own neck; he's shafted Rann, and it makes a mockery of this statement:

Transport Minister Patrick Conlon said the jointly funded project showed how the state and federal governments are working in partnership.

"We are now having the biggest spend on road and rail infrastructure this state as ever seen and we've been able to do so because of our good relationship with the Federal Government," he said.