Essendon 2013

[Q.]

It's got to be one of two things.

Team was using OTC type supplements. Sometimes these contain compounds that are prohibited by WADA, ie. DMAA or yohimbine. If this is this case, we are looking at a storm in a teacup.

The other scenario is that they were systematically doping. Perhaps growth hormone compounds or exogeneous Testosterone, but only enough to fall under the prescribed limits set by WADA.

[mighty_tiger_79]

carlton - they fell from grace last year as they were flag favs after a 3rd of the season, could they have been doing something similar!

[Jase]

It's got to be one of two things.

Team was using OTC type supplements. Sometimes these contain compounds that are prohibited by WADA, ie. DMAA or yohimbine. If this is this case, we are looking at a storm in a teacup.

The other scenario is that they were systematically doping. Perhaps growth hormone compounds or exogeneous Testosterone, but only enough to fall under the prescribed limits set by WADA.

So if they are prohibited and they know they are prohibited, then that's systematic breaking of the rules and therefore not a storm in a teacup...

the "Pharmacist" surely would have had to have known this...

Not being argumentative, just think that if there are banned substances in the supplements and these are known about then they should get the same punishment dopers...

IMHO...

[Q.]

It's got to be one of two things.

Team was using OTC type supplements. Sometimes these contain compounds that are prohibited by WADA, ie. DMAA or yohimbine. If this is this case, we are looking at a storm in a teacup.

The other scenario is that they were systematically doping. Perhaps growth hormone compounds or exogeneous Testosterone, but only enough to fall under the prescribed limits set by WADA.

So if they are prohibited and they know they are prohibited, then that's systematic breaking of the rules and therefore not a storm in a teacup...

the "Pharmacist" surely would have had to have known this...

Not being argumentative, just think that if there are banned substances in the supplements and these are known about then they should get the same punishment dopers...

IMHO...

The punishment shouldn't be the same as if they were using PEDs. However, there should be some sort of a slap on the wrist and use the opportunity for awareness on supplements.

The thing I don't get is I don't see much benefit for an AFL footballer using these types of OTC supps that contain WADA prohibited substances. So for such minimal benefit why knowingly run the risk?

[mighty_tiger_79]

could the players book into rehab to escape any potential ban?? or did that loophole get closed?

[Jim05]

could the players book into rehab to escape any potential ban?? or did that loophole get closed?

That only applies to recreational drugs.
PED's dont fall under this banner, reckon we will cop 2 years ban

[Johno6]

afl will lose too much money if they ban the team or the players

maybe a fine and then everything back to normal....

[cossi11]

A mate sent me this one this morning, i havent actually heard it myself so not sure if it is true but it is funny.

Denis Commetti said ‘I don’t think its fair that Essendon are compared to Lance Armstrong…. At least Lance Armstrong won'

[Brodlach]

They say 25 players were injected and they had 17 soft tissue injuries. I wonder what percentage of those who were injected also had a soft tissue injury? Watson didnt get injected but had a soft tissue injury.

[scoob]

afl will lose too much money if they ban the team or the players

maybe a fine and then everything back to normal....

Sets a dangerous precedent for future punishments if individuals are caught.

[Brodlach]

Got to feel for Goddard, drama just follows him

[LaughingKookaburra]

It would take some balls to ban the 2nd biggest club in the land for 2 years. Looking @ the press conference yesterday however and I saw some of the biggest names in the history of football look horrible and that didn't send a good message.

For the sake of footy I hope this is a storm in a tea cup.....

[Hondo]

It's been a rough old off-season publicity-wise for the AFL

[JK]

could the players book into rehab to escape any potential ban?? or did that loophole get closed?

That only applies to recreational drugs.
PED's dont fall under this banner, reckon we will cop 2 years ban

They won't cop a ban, TV rights deal will ensure that.

Reckon though the AFL will want to take a big stand on this, so would expect the club to cop a huge $ penalty .. suspension or legal action against some official personnel, possibly even recruiting bans (if the AFL has the channel within their laws to achieve that).

None of which will hurt them this season, but will hurt for a few years to come .. They will need for the Bombers to feel some serious pain out of this to have any form of deterrent effect.

[Johno6]

whatever it turns out to be, i have a feeling their shars will plummit

sales will struggle big time

[Banker]

But its the ASADA/WADA conducting the investigation.


The AFL cant neatly sweep this under the carpet like they usually do.

[Johno6]

Cheetah doesnt happen to work for the bombers does he?

[Footy Smart]

But its the ASADA/WADA conducting the investigation.


The AFL cant neatly sweep this under the carpet like they usually do.

Yep, and theyd determine the sanctions dont they?

A VFL player copped an 18 month ban recently for using/importing a pre work out product.

These guys are in trouble! Monfries at port could be in some strife to

[cossi11]

But its the ASADA/WADA conducting the investigation.


The AFL cant neatly sweep this under the carpet like they usually do.

Yep, and theyd determine the sanctions dont they?

A VFL player copped an 18 month ban recently for using/importing a pre work out product.

These guys are in trouble! Monfries at port could be in some strife to

Maybe that is why he wanted out? Tom Lonergan too?

[CoverKing]

Sam Lonergan. Should know your own players surely?