Things that make you sad.

[Gozu]

Best wishes for your dad TDK and condolences Wedgie in what must be a very tough time.

[The Dark Knight]

Mum and my sister went and saw him this afternoon and they said he was 1000 times better than yesterday so that's great news.

It's so shit because he's only 61 and it's hit him so quickly without any notice.

[bennymacca]

Mum and my sister went and saw him this afternoon and they said he was 1000 times better than yesterday so that's great news.

It's so shit because he's only 61 and it's hit him so quickly without any notice.

My mother in law was diagnosed about 5 years ago, and passed away within 8 weeks of the diagnosis. Lung Cancer, despite never smoking (though probably passively smoked a lot)

After seeing her in the last few weeks I wouldnt wish it on anyone. All I can say is that I hope your old man either makes a good recovery, or it takes him quickly. Even 8 weeks was way too long.

[The Dark Knight]

Mum and my sister went and saw him this afternoon and they said he was 1000 times better than yesterday so that's great news.

It's so shit because he's only 61 and it's hit him so quickly without any notice.

My mother in law was diagnosed about 5 years ago, and passed away within 8 weeks of the diagnosis. Lung Cancer, despite never smoking (though probably passively smoked a lot)

After seeing her in the last few weeks I wouldnt wish it on anyone. All I can say is that I hope your old man either makes a good recovery, or it takes him quickly. Even 8 weeks was way too long.

Wow that's horrible.

Their first prognosis after they found it was stage 4 was 6-12 months. We'll wait and see how it goes.

[tipper]

Mum and my sister went and saw him this afternoon and they said he was 1000 times better than yesterday so that's great news.

It's so shit because he's only 61 and it's hit him so quickly without any notice.

My mother in law was diagnosed about 5 years ago, and passed away within 8 weeks of the diagnosis. Lung Cancer, despite never smoking (though probably passively smoked a lot)

After seeing her in the last few weeks I wouldnt wish it on anyone. All I can say is that I hope your old man either makes a good recovery, or it takes him quickly. Even 8 weeks was way too long.

very similar story with my mother inlaw actually (lung cancer too for a non smoker). was 4 years ago now, and while she lasted longer than 8 weeks (4 or 5 months from memory), she seemed "ok" (whatever that is) for most of it, the decline at the end wasnt good to see. (and that coming from someone who didnt really get along with her)

she hung on though for the birth of her youngest daughters first child (our nephew). he was born in the hospital where she was in respite care, so they got to spend a lot of time together in the two weeks they "overlapped". missed out on meeting our boy by a few weeks though, but you cant have everything sadly.

**** cancer

[Footy Chick]

My Grandmother lasted 10 years. She died in 1998 Apparently her final days weren't fantastic either. The last time I saw her before she died was 5 years before and she wasn't good then, attached to an oxygen cylinder and wheelchair bound. She was a tough ol' bat.

[mighty_tiger_79]

Both my parents went via cancer and related diseases.

My mum lasted 5 weeks from her diagnosis and my Dad around 2. In both cases the quality of life they had deteriorated quite quickly and once it had they didn't suffer too long, although the last month my mum spent at home she was bedridden and on quite a lot of drugs.

The 5 weeks my mum had was the longest and hardest, due mainly to the shock of it all.

And as Benny said I hope TDK your ol man makes a good recovery or is taken quickly, as harsh as it is.


From what I saw with my parents I firmly believe we need some euthanasia options in place.

My dad lasted 2 weeks from his diagnosis, and survived 6 days without food/drinks/drugs in hospital etc. That is cruel and unnecessary.

[The Dark Knight]

From what I saw with my parents I firmly believe we need some euthanasia options in place.

My dad lasted 2 weeks from his diagnosis, and survived 6 days without food/drinks/drugs in hospital etc. That is cruel and unnecessary.

You're exactly right MT, I fully agree with you and I know my dad would. Prior to all this he has always said there needs to be euthanasia options in place, I remember discussing it with him when my grandfather was suffering in hospital before he passed.

[tipper]

its a wierd word we live in. if a pet is suffering, you would get charged with animal cruelty if you didnt do the right thing and see the vet about them.

if its a human relative, its illegal to do the same

[mighty_tiger_79]

its a wierd word we live in. if a pet is suffering, you would get charged with animal cruelty if you didnt do the right thing and see the vet about them.

if its a human relative, its illegal to do the same

Yep, we had to do that to our 15yr old kelpie midnight last Sunday....and yet a human can lay in a hospital bed with no food-drink etc until the end....

Strange world

[bennymacca]

its a wierd word we live in. if a pet is suffering, you would get charged with animal cruelty if you didnt do the right thing and see the vet about them.

if its a human relative, its illegal to do the same

Not sure if I agree with others being able to decide when it's time, but if they are still lucid enough to say this is it, I am honestly all for it.

[tipper]

its a wierd word we live in. if a pet is suffering, you would get charged with animal cruelty if you didnt do the right thing and see the vet about them.

if its a human relative, its illegal to do the same

Not sure if I agree with others being able to decide when it's time, but if they are still lucid enough to say this is it, I am honestly all for it.

Yep. Not arguing that at all. I didnt mean for it to be a direct comparison in that regard

[Grenville]

its a wierd word we live in. if a pet is suffering, you would get charged with animal cruelty if you didnt do the right thing and see the vet about them.

if its a human relative, its illegal to do the same

Not sure if I agree with others being able to decide when it's time, but if they are still lucid enough to say this is it, I am honestly all for it.

[Psyber]

Yes it is all pretty horrible watching someone waste and die over a long time. My wife died in 2008 after slowly wasting away for 4 years mostly tied to an Oxygen bottle. In her case it was lung damage from an antibiotic resistant bacterial pneumonia in caught in 2004.

I had a scare too. I was diagnosed by biopsy as having Prostate Cancer in 2010, and opted not to gamble on conservative treatments but to go for a Radical Prostatectomy - and checked with other Urologists and Radiologists I knew which colleague they would go to.

Fortunately, it appeared on pathological examination to be confined within the gland and I've gone nearly 6 years without any sign of secondary spread.
I still get a little anxious at annual testing time though...

[Footy Chick]

Isn't there a "non invasive" prostate test now?

[Q.]

Isn't there a "non invasive" prostate test now?

Where's the fun in that?

[RustyCage]

Someone with small fingers?

[Lightning McQueen]

Prostate examinations are a pain in the arse.

[Psyber]

Isn't there a "non invasive" prostate test now?

The PSA blood test is a rough guide and not very reliable - a basic screening test at most.

Ultrasounds confirmed the enlargement of the gland, but according to the PSA levels my Prostate enlargement should not have been malignant.

My Urologist however was concerned about the rapid rise my repeated PSA levels even though it had not yet risen to the level that makes cancer "probable".
So I got the finger, and when he thought the lower left region was more "rubbery ' in texture than it ought to be, we discussed options and I had a biopsy.
Only the biopsy found the cancer which was confirmed by the post-op pathology.

[Q.]

Ugh, mental images I didn't need