Gingernuts wrote:One thing I've always found quite bizarre is the link between smoking and a lower socio-economic demographic.
Why is it that the people that need the money the most are the ones that smoke the hardest? Same with drinking and gambling.
I'm sure there's been plenty written about it, I've just never gone out of my way to look it up. My wife is a social worker, I should probably just ask her.
I think the link is purportedly "esteem issues" mate
Gingernuts wrote:One thing I've always found quite bizarre is the link between smoking and a lower socio-economic demographic.
Why is it that the people that need the money the most are the ones that smoke the hardest? Same with drinking and gambling.
I'm sure there's been plenty written about it, I've just never gone out of my way to look it up. My wife is a social worker, I should probably just ask her.
Gingernuts wrote:One thing I've always found quite bizarre is the link between smoking and a lower socio-economic demographic.
Why is it that the people that need the money the most are the ones that smoke the hardest? Same with drinking and gambling.
I'm sure there's been plenty written about it, I've just never gone out of my way to look it up. My wife is a social worker, I should probably just ask her.
Gingernuts wrote:My dad goes on and off, mostly on these days. It makes me sad because he has also been obese all his life, and I worry that the combo will mean he won't have much time with future grandkids.
You'd think he'd learn - his dad died of a heart condition linked to smoking, and mum's dad eventually died of emphysema after struggling with it for the last 20 years of his life.
Unfortunately ginger this is where the addition comes into it. My father in law almost lost his life through smoking with asthma, was revived from a coma after about a week, swore he would never touch another cigarette again after having such a close shave, yet a month later was back on the habit as it was too hard to quit. It breaks my fiancees heart but she knows there is nothing she can do.....
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I'm not a smoker, but I don't have a huge issue with people smoking around me unless it is in a closely-enclosed area such as a car. I feel the banning it from the pub is a step too far. When i go to the pub I should accept that it is expected, as other people are relaxing too. My uncle died at 37 from smoking and lifestyle related cancer. The same age my Dad was when I was born. Another uncle has just come out of hospital following cancer surgery and last about a week, but is now back on them. Unbelievable. Other Aunties and Uncles I have seen their quality of life virtually become non-existent in the last 5-10 years of their lives due to smoking-related illnesses. Slowly become more and more home-bound to the extent that a trip down the street or ten minute car ride is unmanageable. Luckily my old man gave up smoking when he was in his early twenties, long before I was born. He is now in his early 70's and still does seasonal manual work, the same age some of his brothers and sisters went/are going through the above.
The link between smoking and heart disease was demonstrated in an article published in Lancet in either 1903 or 1907 - I can't recall which but I think it was 1903. When I found out about that publication early in my medical career, I was amazed how effective the tobacco industry was in staving off government action on this health issue.
Now of course I understand more about governments and tax money, and political parties and donations, and I am no longer amazed.
Psyber wrote:Now of course I understand more about governments and tax money, and political parties and donations, and I am no longer amazed.
Agree psyber, its a shame that governments are aware of the dangers of smoking, however are only prepared to place health warnings on packets and a few ads on tv to deter smoking due to the income generated through the aforementioned...
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Jase wrote:My sister in-law has stopped smoking (4 days) after 2 bad asthma attacks...
I thought she a miserable b***h before...
I'm refusing to go back around to their place until she calms down...
My other half has been off them for 9 days now ... I've been hiding out in my office at work as late as possible and then tip-toeing around the house whenever Im there, it's a frightening experience.
Jase wrote:My sister in-law has stopped smoking (4 days) after 2 bad asthma attacks...
I thought she a miserable b***h before...
I'm refusing to go back around to their place until she calms down...
My other half has been off them for 9 days now ... I've been hiding out in my office at work as late as possible and then tip-toeing around the house whenever Im there, it's a frightening experience.
More time for using work broadband for internet poker
5 Days off em today...feeling great... 2 nights at the pub on the weekend, no probs. The new car (no smoking in there) is definately helping me . I am using the Nicotine gum, probably 5 times a day but at $7 for a 15 pack I am happy with that.
7 days off them as of today, longest Ive ever gone in 23 years lol (TBH Ive really only seriously tried quitting twice) ... Surprisingly it hasn't been that tough, although Friday night on Coopers Hill (then the Norwood and Findon Hotels) was the biggest test.
The missus bought me one of those Nicotine puffers which I use every coupla hours I suppose, and that been a good help.
Gingernuts wrote:One thing I've always found quite bizarre is the link between smoking and a lower socio-economic demographic.
Why is it that the people that need the money the most are the ones that smoke the hardest? Same with drinking and gambling.
I'm sure there's been plenty written about it, I've just never gone out of my way to look it up. My wife is a social worker, I should probably just ask her.
I can answer this mate because it used to be me. When you think you don't have a future and you are young you just don't friggin care. For those who are in the same boat but are older then it's a case of 'hasn't hurt me so far' and later on it's 'ya gotta die of something'.
