globe derby sat 23/6/07

[mal]

I thought JS steered very well on ZERRAFOS.
Timed its run perfectly and if the horse was not 2nd up it MIGHT have won the race.
JS dosent drive many horses but like Simon Jones knows his horses and the
oppostion horses and drives accordingly.
Has the ability to also read a race and make good decisions frequently.

PS I know you lads love your trots
But have a look at my APK dog preview 25/06/07 and results.

Also on Monday GDP my LATE MAL was on SWEET AS REIGN but it didnt show up as a post.
SAR driven by the gorgeous Katie Thomson got up at $1-50
The horse nearly threw the race away just before the turn when went roughly
but the lovely Katie re -steered it back to a pace.

[SCD]

Let me clarify a few things I've said on here so people understand a bit better what I'm trying to say…

Zerrafoss - I didn't mean in any way to pot the horse, I would love to have one like that sitting in my back yard - was at Moonee Valley the night he ran 2nd to one of Pete Manning horses late last year and made ground in a 28 second quarter - has loads of ability and has since being a good young horse!! The only point I was trying to make was that he was driven really well yesterday, but only being 2nd up from a lengthy spell just caught up with him in the straight - next week I'd just about expect him to hold off Anvils Revival in the same situation - he just got beaten by a rock hard fit race horse.. But you're spot on Centreman - the drive from Boof was super (didn't overdrive it in a harder race) - which is my point about Pascoe…

InoUno - I have nothing personal against Scott (and have made money on backing his horses - especially an old grey trotter, Gee Sixty Eight) and I've agreed that lumping Scott in with Biddell and Crawford and the Champions is harsh… but I maintain he is not driving well and hasn't for some time now…
Most people (including Scaffidi - probably not J Crawford though...) will win a race or 2 if you go around often enough on a good enough horse, which Scott drives.. The point I was trying to make is he overdrives all his horses and the drive on Elsie Who was tactically not good based on how she had gone the week before (when flashing home late when held up)….

by who you claim to be - you should have driven in enough races to know when a horse is travelling well or not - would you agree that Scott would have been better served to stay on the fence (short way home) and follow the only horse travelling well at the time, rather then pulling out 600m from home and then have his filly struggling a fair way from home?? After all the only other horse that didn't gallop that Elsie who beat home is a cripple (as shown by it's poor performance yesterday again!!!)

I'm fine for you to think I should be on an incompetent commentary listing - that's your opinion, but all I was trying to say was I agree with Robber on his list of incompetent drivers - there are more out there then the good ones - but there are also some good drivers who don't get opportunities.. It's not an imaginary list - it's my opinion on drivers and I'd be interested to get your thoughts on some of the "drivers" that get a go out there on a regular basis (both good and bad) if you're happy to..

[InoUno]

[quote="scaffidi can't drive"]Let me clarify a few things I've said on here so people understand a bit better what I'm trying to say…



yes i agree with hindsight it would have been better for him to stay on pegs, but he says that at the 450m when he left the trail she was travelling good and wanted to wind her up but she hung all the way round the bend and finished up the straight well. only reason the 2nd horse beat her is cause the jaques horse galloped on his inside and went down deep in sprint lane and let it through.
apologies bout the incompetent commentary remark but it angers me to see negative comments about him when he has been so successful in the sport.
Speaking of the old grey, he was one horse you wouldnt have won any money on if it wasnt overdriven every time, mainly due to his lack of high speed, so he had to just grind everone else into the ground.

as the incompetent list stands it seems quite accurate as the people on it have never been successful and probably never will.

from reading some of the posts on here 2 drivers that are very underrated are Shaun Adams and Tony Calabria (drives very good in front)

[bayman]

all i'll say to the 'newcomers' is welcome & i think if scd or anyone else has an opinion he/she or it is entitled to it, but no one should be personal to anyone else ie have a go at the drive & or the drivers tactics etc but not the driver as in the person

eg, bayman drove a shocking race on saturday he should not have come off the fence at the 600m, it cost him his winning chance

not, that bayman he is a dickhead who has nfi, he is an unruly character that gets his money as a drugtrafficker

i hope these examples help in the fact yes criticise but not personally

& i agree with scd he made a mistake he should have stayed on the fence in that particular race & that is my opinion

[SCD]

Let me clarify a few things I've said on here so people understand a bit better what I'm trying to say…



yes i agree with hindsight it would have been better for him to stay on pegs, but he says that at the 450m when he left the trail she was travelling good and wanted to wind her up but she hung all the way round the bend and finished up the straight well. only reason the 2nd horse beat her is cause the jaques horse galloped on his inside and went down deep in sprint lane and let it through.
apologies bout the incompetent commentary remark but it angers me to see negative comments about him when he has been so successful in the sport.
Speaking of the old grey, he was one horse you wouldnt have won any money on if it wasnt overdriven every time, mainly due to his lack of high speed, so he had to just grind everone else into the ground.

as the incompetent list stands it seems quite accurate as the people on it have never been successful and probably never will.

from reading some of the posts on here 2 drivers that are very underrated are Shaun Adams and Tony Calabria (drives very good in front)

You're right mate - I've learnt not to take life to serious (apart from the time Scaffidi got grumpy with me for my user name on here - but Scaf and I get on good - esp considering he drove the first 2 winners I ever owned, so I don't think he'd ever take it personally from me)...

I can understand what Scott thinks in terms of giving her time to wind up - the only thing that really got me was the apparant change in tactics compared to the last week... If he drove her tough all the time - ok, but I just could see a lot of G Butler in the drive (i.e. thinking the winning post is 1/2 way down the back)

From someone who owns horses (not trains or drives) the one thing that annoyed me about my horses was having them overdriven.. i'd rather be bottled up and looking for runs, rather then being flat out 400m from home and going home a flat and tired horse... I'm just happy that Wayne Hill has learnt not to over drive my horse (he's formed the same opinion as us - she is 100 times better on the fence and just saved for lucky split if she gets it)

[SCD]

gdp

r1 4,9 on top e/w from 1,5,8

There is something else we forgot to mention....
Bayman - $38 winners are also not allowed on this site..
They show Mal and I up too much!!! That is one hell of a good selection with the 4 in the 1st race on Saturday night!!!

[robber]

Instead of bagging scotty pascoe for coming of the fence, which made no difference to the finish result you should be congratulating for Elsi Who being the only local to keep some of the stakemoney in SA in either of the group races on Sat night!! Was also a great run in vic oaks week earlier coming from last on the home turn.

You also seem to talk about someone you know nothing about, how retarded you sound by wanting to add a driver of some 500 winners and one of the best mares to have raced in SA in the last decade in Carvils Choice to a list of "incompetents". Get a Life!

May i be the first to ask whether this 500

includes trials, track work and dreams or is it races only.

[STRUTTER]

Mark Norman...... Symon Kittel.........underated drivers, thats an overated comment!!! These blokes are just like the other DELETED. You couldnt put a number on how many these 2 have got beat. One DELETED that should be certified is S Adams, for someone who has been driving for over 15 years you should get better at it rather than worse

[STRUTTER]

Even if that figure(500) is correct a bloke can drive 1000 winners and is still a DELETED , its the ones you get beat that stand out more in the public eye, not to be standing anyone out in particular but Scotty has got a quite a few beat. Colin Pike drove a hundred odd winners on just one horse...... would have won 300 races with anyone else!!

[Dutchy]

Lads - ive deleted some inapporpriate language on this thread, nothing wrong with some good robust debate but naming names along with abuse wont be tolerated....

If you have any issue please PM me