by marbles » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:05 pm
by X Runna » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:54 pm
marbles wrote:the 1st discussion brought great debate, and since has caused enhancements to the model
PROBLEM #1
"Clubs with C-Grade & D-Grade sides who have to play against A-Grade club are losing players rapidly, 4 Div 1 & 2 clubs in the last 14 months have forfeited their D-Grade sides" - TTG, Broadview, Flinders Park, SHOCS
# Next season faces a dilemma with the likeliness of these Div 7 C-Grade participants (Shocs, Smosh, Modbury, Flinders Parks and possibly henley) wanting to no longer playing agrade clubs and will be wanting to go to div 8. Here having their cgraders play cgraders only will means players will stick and wont be turned off from the game. clubs want to attract & keep players. a rising participation rate at any club is always the goal
# This means Div 7 next season may only have 5 teams - North Pines, Mitchell Park, Angle Vale, Flinders Uni & Adelaide UniUntitled-1.jpg
PROBLEM #2
# Clubs are on the brink having only 1 team and may not be capable of reforming a 2nd side next season. Kilburn, Mitchell Park, Flinders Uni, Wingfield, even Angle Vale?
(this problem, we will hold hope and believe theyll be fine next year)
PROBLEM #3
# Developing lower division A-Grade clubs are having premierships taken away from their club development, because C & D Grade sides are consistently winning grand finals in div 7. The 8 of the last 10 flags in the last 5 years have been won by thirds & fourths sides. These lower agrade clubs have missed out on glory halting their development & success
A SOLUTION
# 7 Pure A-Grade divisions...Untitled-2.jpg
# Having byes moved into each division will cause an uproar by individuals. but the league is bigger than one poor club who may have to take a week off once in a while
# Having byes like this also offers opportunities to invite new fully established clubs to the SAAFL and allow them to fill the Div 3 bye. For example Brighton may consider the Div 3 invitation, where theres no way in the world it would join a vacancy in Div 7. MArion could join Div 4, or Morphettville or Blackwood etc. By 2016 these byes could be filled.
# The Super C-Grade divisions will see participation rates back to where they should be or even better - BECAUSE boys who just want a kick and catch in the C-Grade wont be turned off by having to get smashed by some supreme a-grader - it will be C-Grader vs C-Grader only and that is highly appetizing for a c-grader
# essentially the only consequence to most a-grade clubs is that theyll have to take a week off twice a year.
# also some clubs may go down a division. but maybe in the following season, the league could declare that 3 sides will be promoted & relegated just to return a clubs to their true standing across the divisions for the following 2016 season.
# a runner up in this years grand finals will not be able to be promoted, and the premier will be gifted a chance in the higher div
# please see the solution chart to see how many teams in each div needs to be relegated.
by jo172 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:18 am
by Q. » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:33 am
by jo172 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:43 am
Q. wrote:Why are C/D grade participation rates low if they keep winning D7 flags?
by Q. » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:52 am
by The Arrow » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:56 am
by Mr Beefy » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:57 am
by marbles » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:13 am
The Arrow wrote:i believe Rocs and Unley are having 4 sides next year.
by marbles » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:18 am
by morell » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:48 am
it's a rare talent to be able argue two completely contradictory points, seamlessly, and not blink an eye.jo172 wrote:Q. wrote:Why are C/D grade participation rates low if they keep winning D7 flags?
I like how marbles can tell us with a straight face that C/D grades are getting pumped by supreme athletes and in the same breath say that C/D grades are "stealing" d7 flags.
by morell » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:06 am
by Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:21 am
marbles wrote:# a runner up in this years grand finals will not be able to be promoted, and the premier will be gifted a chance in the higher div
by marbles » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:43 pm
morell wrote:And why do you continue to ignore Adelaide Uni for your C grade comp. It makes a mockery of everything you're trying to say.
Is it because you know they have Henleys measure and therefore it doesn't fit your true agenda - a comp the sandbags can dominate...
morell wrote:it's a rare talent to be able argue two completely contradictory points, seamlessly, and not blink an eye.jo172 wrote:Q. wrote:Why are C/D grade participation rates low if they keep winning D7 flags?
I like how marbles can tell us with a straight face that C/D grades are getting pumped by supreme athletes and in the same breath say that C/D grades are "stealing" d7 flags.
It's almost as if he has some sort of split personality.
Do you flip a coin to decide which like of argument you're going to use each time you post marby?
by jo172 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:52 pm
marbles wrote:C-Graders are people too and there are plenty of them. PLUS they pay subs, unlike your a-grade soldiers, and they want whats best for their money, do they really wanna pay money to be smashed up by your agrade warriors every second week? i doubt it - hence why we are seeing the erosion of the participation rate
by X Runna » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:56 pm
jo172 wrote:marbles wrote:C-Graders are people too and there are plenty of them. PLUS they pay subs, unlike your a-grade soldiers, and they want whats best for their money, do they really wanna pay money to be smashed up by your agrade warriors every second week? i doubt it - hence why we are seeing the erosion of the participation rate
No, they want to steal the Div 7 A Grade club's flags! Like they do most years!
by X Runna » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:00 pm
marbles wrote:the league is in crisis, its eroding have u noticed
i think as long as your club is going along nicely who gives a toss what is happening elsewhere, your certainly making that obvious. just a hostile little simpleton crying in his own backyard and u obviously dont give a damn if next door is burning down. your theory is probably - burn them all, long live the farmers, am i right??
u need to enlarge your scope PG, and whether u do or not aint gonna mean shit when the league decides which way it needs to go. for your backyard is 1/60th factor of their considerations.morell wrote:And why do you continue to ignore Adelaide Uni for your C grade comp. It makes a mockery of everything you're trying to say.
Is it because you know they have Henleys measure and therefore it doesn't fit your true agenda - a comp the sandbags can dominate...
im quite happy for uni to be in. its them who publicly refuse to break ties and having 7 teams they are little bit welcome or qualified to be given that ticket dont you think.morell wrote:it's a rare talent to be able argue two completely contradictory points, seamlessly, and not blink an eye.jo172 wrote:Q. wrote:Why are C/D grade participation rates low if they keep winning D7 flags?
I like how marbles can tell us with a straight face that C/D grades are getting pumped by supreme athletes and in the same breath say that C/D grades are "stealing" d7 flags.
It's almost as if he has some sort of split personality.
Do you flip a coin to decide which like of argument you're going to use each time you post marby?
maybe, somedays i represent my own interests some days i represent yours.
ALSO NOTE: For every 50 readers on here, there may be 1 or 2 of those who may comment.
C-Graders are people too and there are plenty of them. PLUS they pay subs, unlike your a-grade soldiers, and they want whats best for their money, do they really wanna pay money to be smashed up by your agrade warriors every second week? i doubt it - hence why we are seeing the erosion of the participation rate
by Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:01 pm
marbles wrote:the league is in crisis, its eroding have u noticed
Whether the club is going along nicely or not, you are correct I don't give a toss about any other clubs and what is happening in their backyards - it's not my concern, it doesn't have anything to do with me. My concern is MY club.marbles wrote:i think as long as your club is going along nicely who gives a toss what is happening elsewhere, your certainly making that obvious. just a hostile little simpleton crying in his own backyard and u obviously dont give a damn if next door is burning down. your theory is probably - burn them all, long live the farmers, am i right??
No doubt, and if the league was to move in a certain direction I have no doubts that my club would support the league and continue to work on our improvement - but we aren't going to go out and start petitioning for a change for the sake of a minority.marbles wrote:u need to enlarge your scope PG, and whether u do or not aint gonna mean shit when the league decides which way it needs to go.
As is yoursmarbles wrote: for your backyard is 1/60th factor of their considerations.
by marbles » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:03 pm
jo172 wrote:marbles wrote:C-Graders are people too and there are plenty of them. PLUS they pay subs, unlike your a-grade soldiers, and they want whats best for their money, do they really wanna pay money to be smashed up by your agrade warriors every second week? i doubt it - hence why we are seeing the erosion of the participation rate
No, they want to steal the Div 7 A Grade club's flags! Like they do most years!
jo172 wrote:marbles wrote:C-Graders are people too and there are plenty of them. PLUS they pay subs, unlike your a-grade soldiers, and they want whats best for their money, do they really wanna pay money to be smashed up by your agrade warriors every second week? i doubt it - hence why we are seeing the erosion of the participation rate
No, they want to steal the Div 7 A Grade club's flags! Like they do most years!
by Phantom Gossiper » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:03 pm
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