Booney wrote:These academies will be the death of the SANFL. Without question. All the 11 year old girls and boys set to make their way through the ranks at SANFL clubs are now going to be drafted before the SANFL gets any service from them.
Too late. My club's results from last year suggest we've already experimented with 11 year old boys and girls.
Booney wrote:These academies will be the death of the SANFL. Without question. All the 11 year old girls and boys set to make their way through the ranks at SANFL clubs are now going to be drafted before the SANFL gets any service from them.
Too late. My club's results from last year suggest we've already experimented with 11 year old boys and girls.
didnt realise you supported the catholic church footy club
Not that kind of experiment.
"Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat that isn't there...and finding it." - Oscar Wilde
Booney wrote:These academies will be the death of the SANFL. Without question. All the 11 year old girls and boys set to make their way through the ranks at SANFL clubs are now going to be drafted before the SANFL gets any service from them.
Too late. My club's results from last year suggest we've already experimented with 11 year old boys and girls.
Some kids are pretty committed, two wins wouldn't have been out of the question.
Booney wrote:From what I read these aren't really "academies" as we would all see them.The new "zones" are laid out for the clubs to identify talent from non-traditional football backgrounds and indigenous background.
For boys and girls aged 11-16. From what I read it's likely to help the clubs below the AFL level ( SANFL, WAFL etc ) as the funding will be looking at an age group that the AFL clubs can't offer game time too.
ie - a 15 year old lad from Port Lincoln might spend some time at Adelaide learning about professional football and what is required, but they have nowhere for him to play, so, off to Norwood ( yes?) he goes until he is of draft age and Adelaide use points ( in the new points system ) to have the first bid at him.
Come on Booney, don't go reading the AFl propaganda, it is all about the imminent death of the SANFL
Yes, you're right.
These academies will be the death of the SANFL. Without question. All the 11 year old girls and boys set to make their way through the ranks at SANFL clubs are now going to be drafted before the SANFL gets any service from them.
Booney wrote:These academies will be the death of the SANFL. Without question. All the 11 year old girls and boys set to make their way through the ranks at SANFL clubs are now going to be drafted before the SANFL gets any service from them.
Too late. My club's results from last year suggest we've already experimented with 11 year old boys and girls.
Some kids are pretty committed, two wins wouldn't have been out of the question.
True, but these ones couldn't count.
"Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat that isn't there...and finding it." - Oscar Wilde
Magellan wrote:Do the clubs still receive a payment once they play an AFL game?
Not long ago (ie, within the last 6 months) the SANFL were talking about pooling all income from drafted players and distributing it evenly among the 8 clubs. Im not sure if that's in place, or still being considered etc?
I think this has been in place since the 2014 draft.
Correct all 8 stand alone SANFL clubs get a flat fee each year doesn't matter if 4 of your players get drafted or 0. No more tiered payments to SANFL Club or Community clubs anymore.
I don't recall seeing anything on this in the media? On the surface, it seems like a ridiculous set up. As an example, if Norwood have 4 players drafted, and Centrals none, why should both clubs be compensated equally? Surely the idea for compensation/transfer fees is to help you replace players you have lost?
Players win touches, Teams win matches, Clubs win Premierships.
Hazydog wrote:I don't recall seeing anything on this in the media? On the surface, it seems like a ridiculous set up. As an example, if Norwood have 4 players drafted, and Centrals none, why should both clubs be compensated equally? Surely the idea for compensation/transfer fees is to help you replace players you have lost?
That was my reaction when I first heard about it too - Seems a fair dis-incentive for clubs to get the maximum out of their zone development.
Hazydog wrote:I don't recall seeing anything on this in the media? On the surface, it seems like a ridiculous set up. As an example, if Norwood have 4 players drafted, and Centrals none, why should both clubs be compensated equally? Surely the idea for compensation/transfer fees is to help you replace players you have lost?
That was my reaction when I first heard about it too - Seems a fair dis-incentive for clubs to get the maximum out of their zone development.
The A-League had a ridiculous system a few years back where all A-League teams shared any winnings Australian sides gained from being in the Asian Champions League.
There was the ludicrous situation where Adelaide United loss money on their involvement in the champions league due to the expense of traveling to Kazakistan(?) and other countries yet didn't collect the complete purse of their winnings.
I think unfortunately the SANFL is in a similar position to where the A-League was when they had the similar ruling in that their in survival mode. Unfortunately to many sides are on the *brink. I know the simple answer is to say well other sides should get better etc etc but its no good to anyone if they don't have an opponent to play.
Hazydog wrote:I don't recall seeing anything on this in the media? On the surface, it seems like a ridiculous set up. As an example, if Norwood have 4 players drafted, and Centrals none, why should both clubs be compensated equally? Surely the idea for compensation/transfer fees is to help you replace players you have lost?
That was my reaction when I first heard about it too - Seems a fair dis-incentive for clubs to get the maximum out of their zone development.
The A-League had a ridiculous system a few years back where all A-League teams shared any winnings Australian sides gained from being in the Asian Champions League.
There was the ludicrous situation where Adelaide United loss money on their involvement in the champions league due to the expense of traveling to Kazakistan(?) and other countries yet didn't collect the complete purse of their winnings.
I think unfortunately the SANFL is in a similar position to where the A-League was when they had the similar ruling in that their in survival mode. Unfortunately to many sides are on the *brink. I know the simple answer is to say well other sides should get better etc etc but its no good to anyone if they don't have an opponent to play.
Worked out some sums with mates yesterday, and if the SANFL were to invest $50mil in term deposits, they'd make enough interest in 3 years to give each club around $340k per season, and bank an additional $3mil to the starting amount. Anyone know what the SANFL is doing with tyhe earnings from Footy Park?
Hazydog wrote:I don't recall seeing anything on this in the media? On the surface, it seems like a ridiculous set up. As an example, if Norwood have 4 players drafted, and Centrals none, why should both clubs be compensated equally? Surely the idea for compensation/transfer fees is to help you replace players you have lost?
That was my reaction when I first heard about it too - Seems a fair dis-incentive for clubs to get the maximum out of their zone development.
The A-League had a ridiculous system a few years back where all A-League teams shared any winnings Australian sides gained from being in the Asian Champions League.
There was the ludicrous situation where Adelaide United loss money on their involvement in the champions league due to the expense of traveling to Kazakistan(?) and other countries yet didn't collect the complete purse of their winnings.
I think unfortunately the SANFL is in a similar position to where the A-League was when they had the similar ruling in that their in survival mode. Unfortunately to many sides are on the *brink. I know the simple answer is to say well other sides should get better etc etc but its no good to anyone if they don't have an opponent to play.
Worked out some sums with mates yesterday, and if the SANFL were to invest $50mil in term deposits, they'd make enough interest in 3 years to give each club around $340k per season, and bank an additional $3mil to the starting amount. Anyone know what the SANFL is doing with tyhe earnings from Footy Park?
Sorry to go so OT.
Trust funds should definatley be coming up in the SANFL's thought process.
Booney wrote:From what I read these aren't really "academies" as we would all see them.The new "zones" are laid out for the clubs to identify talent from non-traditional football backgrounds and indigenous background.
For boys and girls aged 11-16. From what I read it's likely to help the clubs below the AFL level ( SANFL, WAFL etc ) as the funding will be looking at an age group that the AFL clubs can't offer game time too.
ie - a 15 year old lad from Port Lincoln might spend some time at Adelaide learning about professional football and what is required, but they have nowhere for him to play, so, off to Norwood ( yes?) he goes until he is of draft age and Adelaide use points ( in the new points system ) to have the first bid at him.
So a junior who enters an academy/community programme won't have to play SANFL to be drafted.
And you see no issue with this ???
Are you Chris Davies
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